Anyone remember 2020?

[ICU 812]

That any of us survived the Chinese/wohon flue is not the topic.

The true mortality rate of Covid has never been accurately determined. . . .it is likely to be somewhat below a tenth of one percent. . . .pretty much like influenza. The Black Death plague of the Middle Ages was something like 30%.

The actual topic of the OP is what any of us remember about the hysterical BULL SHIT we all managed to muddle through.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

"They" told me that I wouldn't get sick if I got the so-called vaccine". Then they changed the official definition of what a vaccine actually is and said i'd have to get more shots every couple of months. Then, like the guy in the song who ate the peanut anyway . . .I did get sick.

And too, all that hysteria about masks and "social distancing" were bogus it turns out People went to jail, lost their jobs or professional licensing over issues that, in the end should not have been thought of as crucial.

The dreaded Ivermectin is now an over the counter medication in Texas. . . . .so what was all that about?

As a former health care worker and child of a long practicing MD, I had doubts about the official version of things when n o one was allowed to pursue therapeutic treatments, just the shots.

A generous helping of myth, conspiracy and misremembering. Let's go through it.

The vaccine definition change: the CDC swapped "immunity" for "protection" in 2021. The previous wording could be interpreted to mean vaccines were 100% effective — which no vaccine in medical history has ever been, including the flu shot and the MMR. One word, adjusted for accuracy. The grand conspiracy version requires believing thousands of scientists across dozens of countries all got the same memo and executed a flawless cover-up. The boring version is that it was a semantic tweak.

Incidentally — who was president when it still said "immunity"? That would be Donald Trump. Make of that what you will.

Therapeutic treatments were absolutely pursued — dexamethasone was identified as effective in hospitalised patients in June 2020, with Paxlovid and Molnupiravir following. The idea that only shots were permitted isn't a grievance, it's just factually wrong.

On ivermectin — it was studied. Relentlessly. The TOGETHER trial in Brazil and the ACTIV-6 trial across 93 US sites both found no meaningful benefit for COVID-19 patients. A Cochrane meta-analysis of 11 separate trials agreed. Texas putting it on the shelf at CVS doesn't make it a COVID treatment. It's a fine antiparasitic. It just doesn't work for this particular virus — which is what the science said all along.

Getting sick after vaccination isn't proof the vaccine failed. No vaccine offers 100% protection — they reduce severity, hospitalisation and death. That's been the consistent finding across every major dataset.

The healthcare background is noted. Frankly, it makes this harder to excuse, not easier.

[ICU 812]

OK, forget the "vaccines", I can.ot. But Waite, there is more!

Wearing a mask and standing six feet apart were enforced vigorously. Children, even small children, were abused by masking.

Multi generational family business were destroyed by forced closure while Amazon and other multinational businesses thrived. My gym closed and never reopened.

Elderly patients sick or debilitated by ahealth issues other than Covid died alone as families were excluded from their bedside.

Unnecessary school closures adversely affected the education of a cohort of children and teenagers. Many will never catch up.

The incoming administration threw an astronomical amount of n onexistant money, by the trillions, into the economy creating 9% inflation that still drags on everyone today.

There is so much more than the vaccines bull shit to remember.

[Yssup Rider]

And what was your solution?

DJT 2.0


Nuff said

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

OK, forget the "vaccines", I can.ot. But Waite, there is more!

Wearing a mask and standing six feet apart were enforced vigorously. Children, even small children, were abused by masking.

Multi generational family business were destroyed by forced closure while Amazon and other multinational businesses thrived. My gym closed and never reopened.

Elderly patients sick or debilitated by ahealth issues other than Covid died alone as families were excluded from their bedside.

Unnecessary school closures adversely affected the education of a cohort of children and teenagers. Many will never catch up.

The incoming administration threw an astronomical amount of n onexistant money, by the trillions, into the economy creating 9% inflation that still drags on everyone today.

There is so much more than the vaccines bull shit to remember.

A creative pivot away from the vaccine conversation. Couldn't see that coming.

On inflation — "the incoming administration threw trillions into the economy" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for a sentence with the wrong administration in it. The first major stimulus package — $2.2 trillion — was signed by Donald Trump in March 2020. The second — $900 billion — also signed by Trump in December 2020. Biden's American Rescue Plan came third. St. Louis Fed economists found stimulus contributed roughly 2.6 percentage points to peak inflation — a real factor, but not exactly the smoking gun being implied.

The bigger driver was global. Supply chain collapse, semiconductor shortages, and Russia's invasion of Ukraine sent energy prices through the roof — and the exact same inflation spike hit every major economy simultaneously, including countries with far smaller stimulus programmes. Funny how that works.

"Still dragging on at 9%" isn't even close. Inflation peaked at 9.1% in June 2022 and was back down to 2.9% when Biden left office. It's currently at 3.3% — courtesy of Iran war energy costs and Trump's tariffs.

Quite the list of grievances. It'd land harder if more of it were accurate.

[ICU 812]

Solution(s)?

The topic was remembering . . .remember?

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Solution(s)?

The topic was remembering . . .remember?

You're the one that keeps bringing stuff up, and I'm responding to it. Not sure exactly what the topic is. Maybe you could clarify since you keep bringing up the "topic" every time someone shoots down the mythology you're remembering.