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Old 05-10-2012, 09:12 PM   #16
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Since they aren't associated with the sex industry and probably have never ventured much past their own relationship. Although you maybe shocked by their reaction, you can't possibly expect them to look past the seedy stigma and criminal aspects of sex work. After all if you really think about it you didn't hesitate to state in this forum that you are a Personal Trainer, but apparently kept strict diligence in allowing anyone in your other forum that you engage in Sex Work on the side. I understand how you feel about the situation you're in with that couple, and I am sure anyone here can sympathize with you. But it simply is the nature of the beast.
I disagree. I would say it is the nature of those two people, period.

I can understand that they would feel surprise, maybe even shock. I can see if they strongly stated that the escort world was not for them. But if they had been blog members for years then I would have expected a very different reaction: I would not expect them to throw aside what they know of Ava because they believe one aspect is flawed or undesierable. Maybe if they had been short term blog members--or relatively inactive ones--but it takes an exceptionally narrow minded person to say one piece of evidence outweighs years of friendship, even e-friendship.

If we are talking about discovering that a friend is a child molester, drug dealer, then I could understand it. But this is--to me--a sign that this couple is far more close minded than they seemed.

Ava, I am very sorry it happened. But understand they were not really the friends they sold themselves to be. They were not the people you thought they were. All this time you were one wrong comment from having them turn on you all along.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:14 PM   #17
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I disagree. I would say it is the nature of those two people, period.

I can understand that they would feel surprise, maybe even shock. I can see if they strongly stated that the escort world was not for them. But if they had been blog members for years then I would have expected a very different reaction: I would not expect them to throw aside what they know of Ava because they believe one aspect is flawed or undesierable. Maybe if they had been short term blog members--or relatively inactive ones--but it takes an exceptionally narrow minded person to say one piece of evidence outweighs years of friendship, even e-friendship.

If we are talking about discovering that a friend is a child molester, drug dealer, then I could understand it. But this is--to me--a sign that this couple is far more close minded than they seemed.

Ava, I am very sorry it happened. But understand they were not really the friends they sold themselves to be. They were not the people you thought they were. All this time you were one wrong comment from having them turn on you all along.
Well it is their nature, the way they reacted. Not everyone would have reacted quite like they did.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:42 PM   #18
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Well it is their nature, the way they reacted. Not everyone would have reacted quite like they did.
Agree, it was their nature--hopefully not the nature of all people who would find out. I think we are saying similar things.
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Old 05-11-2012, 01:32 AM   #19
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The most ironic part came at the end of their rant when the guy said. "We'll pray for you." Um, really? I know I'll be praying for them to get over being so judgemental!
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Old 05-11-2012, 02:18 AM   #20
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ehh,,,,,,, fuck em , well, maybe not actually the act casue they seem apaulled or something.... but maybe the husband casuse he just has to ACT like he doesnt want to when his wifes around and shes probably ALWAYS around...but, yah Fuck EM ,,
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ava im really sorry this happened to you... i have been there before as well but unfortuantly the person who did me like that was supposed to be my best friend... we had known eachother for 16 years and she was very quick to judge me but still in the industry herself... go figure!! i just enjoy life and nevermind the simple minded people who endulge in short lived dreams no matter how long that dream lasts it will never last forever if its not ment to be..... joy lasts forever, happiness is temporary.... keep your head up and only 1 can judge us at the end of the day love!!
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Oh my god! I am so sorry you had to go through this! This is aweful! Specially when people are so judgemental. It`s easy to say: Forget about it, but I know from own experience, that it hurts very much to be judged that way. Again, I am very sorry! Happens to the best of us ;-).
I am sure you are a great person, and an even better personal trainer with wonderful social skills and a lot of discipline. And a lot of integrity! Don`t let the haters get to you.
In my opinion , most escorts have more integrity as persons and people than the ones have , who don`t need to take their time to reflect their actions properly, because no one judges them for their actions, even if they are questionable.
Again, there is nothing wrong with being an escort.

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Old 05-11-2012, 08:24 AM   #24
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The most ironic part came at the end of their rant when the guy said. "We'll pray for you."
Sadly I am not surprised by this added piece. Over and over I find the extreme "religeous" people are the least understanding, least forgiving, most vengeful people. Certainly not all, for I think the deeply religeous often include some of the very best people I have seen.

It also troubles me that many "devout Christians" (this aspect does seem more related to Christians than other religeons) are so seriously hung up on sex that they become unthinking. I have met self proclaimed "devout Christians" who go to church two or three times a week, read the bible every day, and yet believe concentual premarital sex should result in jail time. They truly believe one or two lines in the bible tell them that sex is worse than murder, worse than drug dealing, worse than child abuse. They are proud that their church made enough of a stink that a couple single moms were evicted from their apartments and made homeless because the church convinced the landlord (under threat of boycott) to evict them for "scandelous behavior". And no, they were not escorting, just unwed moms with jobs and boyfriends who would sometimes stay over.

These can be very scary people.

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Sadly I am not surprised by this added piece. Over and over I find the extreme "religeous" people are the least understanding, least forgiving, most vengeful people. Certainly not all, for I think the deeply religeous often include some of the very best people I have seen.
I might add, that also the burgeoise hypocrites can be an annoying piece of hell as well. focus on hypocrisy and look behind facades you find more "regular" women getting paid and doing "it" with married men or women , than "we" do that. Getting paid is a way of decency and non-intrusive support for secrecy. Unfortunately many burgeoise, whose marriages or relationships would have serious issues without our secrecy or non-intrusive input, do not fail to put intrusions and blame on us, when they feel the need to do so. Been there, experienced that. It hurts and I assume one of the issues is, that, if something is "visible" it`s harder to endure it`s truth, then if it`s hidden and no one knows for sure "where it`s at", if it`s easy to assume that "they" are not part of "us" or our world. And for being silent, non-existen, a secret and "shutting it" - I demand and get paid for.
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I knew a lady from Honduras, and yes she was not here legally. But she wanted so badly for her sister to come and live here in the States as she was. This girl worked for a few months non stop and was able to gather 7k to bring her sister here. So when the sister got here she found out what the girl was doing. And she talked so badly to her, calling her a whore. An embarrassment, and that she should be ashamed! Really after that $$ fed her and got her here. Some people are just plain nasty. I would had told her to go straight to hell and kiss my ass and disowned her!
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #27
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Ava: These people sound like they can become very vindictive. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but, I'll throw it in anyway. Make sure you change the email on your blog. I have a feeling these two will be coming back to haunt you over & over again. At least if your new email doesn't get anyone to your ads, it will be easier for you to denounce any future attempts they may have to ruin you or your blog.

People like this are the reason I have to keep my face completely out of pictures now. Good luck & keep your head up, beautiful.
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Thumbs up Bustyamy... Everything you says it's so True! I second that!

You thought you can be comfortable and be open-minded with other people that you think they are your friends but NOT! AVA, You seems to be very smart, sexy hot, and has all the package... Screw those people! They are nothing to you... We always learned from the hard-nonsense experienced... Give it time, as Time will cure your pain.
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As long as my mother, or kid don't find out anyone else really don't matter. If they were true friends they would had asked you why you felt you have to do what you do, and told you to be safe! They would had acted like they cared about you in some sort of way. Fucking 2 face people!
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:42 AM   #29
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Anyone have the over/under on when the "man" of the judgmental couple contacts Ava for an appointment?

Heck I wonder if he is on the local SHMB where he lives ...
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Ava: These people sound like they can become very vindictive. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but, I'll throw it in anyway. Make sure you change the email on your blog. I have a feeling these two will be coming back to haunt you over & over again. At least if your new email doesn't get anyone to your ads, it will be easier for you to denounce any future attempts they may have to ruin you or your blog.

People like this are the reason I have to keep my face completely out of pictures now. Good luck & keep your head up, beautiful.

Oh yes LOL I definitely did that right away. I figured they started looking closely at my profile after we got into the disagreement on the board. At this point though I've gotten over my initial hurt and surprise over their e mails. I really appreciate everyone's support and input. In the end I can only feel sorry for individuals who decide they feel they have to judge me solely based on my occupation.
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