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Old 07-15-2012, 10:27 PM   #16
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You are making less sense than ever, CBJ7. But I understand, and it's ok. I won't call you a mentally deficient blowhard, because some would find that offensive. Just know that I understand.

If you should find yourself out of work, look for one of those stimulus jobs - in Finland.

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Old 07-15-2012, 10:41 PM   #17
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Doofie, this was money that Obama demanded and assured us that it would be used to stimulate OUR economy. This money was used to help stimulate Finland's economy. It wasn't even an indirect stimulation, it went directly to stimulate the ECONOMY OF A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

It was OUR money. Promised to stimulate OUR economy. It went to FINLAND! To a company partially owned by AL GORE! How can it be more plain?

Are you that ignorant, or are you intentionally being foolish? Like I said, the Obamatons are getting stupider and more bizarre by the day. It is amazing.

If the funding for r&d brings Finnish built autos over here...
Would it not reason that it would require some one to sell these autos?
Someone to build dealerships? Someone to service vehicles?
Someone else to market? If the autos are being sold here. I can buy that as a job creating stimulus.

I don't hear any qualms about Honda , Toyota ,
Kia or Lexus .. Any of you guys have one in your garage?
I'm sure every cent of that vehicle purchase stayed right here in the US.
The Asians auto makers said. " fuck it, keep the money "....
Unlikely.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:46 PM   #18
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Anyone who shops at walmart is guilty of subsidizing a foreign
Power. Think Finland is bad with their socialized medicine and number 1 ranking in education... Try supporting a continent that totally love/ hates us.
Think socialism is bad?? I hear diddly shit about the COMMUNIST country
Propping up gwb's war.or how it sucks that we essentially paid them with our purchases of child labor products to loan us the money to blow.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:48 PM   #19
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Did our government give any stimulus money to Toyota, Honda, Kia, etc.? I don't know how to make it more clear. Obama sent money meant to stimulate our economy to support workers in Finland. To a company partially owned by Al Gore. You approve of this? If you do, fine. I don't. It's crony capitalism at its worst.

And this occurred, also, after we HAD to intervene to save our auto industry. Now Obama is funding competitors. Sorry, I think Obama lied to us. Again. I think this proves it.

But no facts will thwart the Obamatons defense of their Messiah. He can do no wrong. All Hail Obama!

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Old 07-16-2012, 04:12 AM   #20
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Name me one President that never made one single decision that either directly or indirectly benefited a foreign corporation.

I'll wait.
And wait.

Four posts since i posted this COG, and not one name?
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:51 AM   #21
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You are making less sense than ever, CBJ7. But I understand, and it's ok. I won't call you a mentally deficient blowhard, because some would find that offensive. Just know that I understand.

If you should find yourself out of work, look for one of those stimulus jobs - in Finland.



Im making less sense?

YOU posted the article and I posted a direct quote FROM the article that kills your entire rant ... you even agreed with the quote ... as fast as you agreed youre off on a tangent disagreeing with yourself and the very article YOU posted ...

seriously COF, everytime someone hands you back your bullshit you use the same worn out counter reply ... get some new material.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:16 PM   #22
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And wait.

Four posts since i posted this COG, and not one name?
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seriously COF, everytime someone hands you back your bullshit you use the same worn out counter reply ... get some new material.
Yup.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:31 PM   #23
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I can't think of any other President who demanded trillions of dollars for the sole purpose of stimulating our economy and then gave some of that money to a direct competitor of an American industry admittedly in a lot of trouble, which is located in Finland.

So no. Can't think of one.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:02 PM   #24
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I can't think of any other President who demanded trillions of dollars for the sole purpose of stimulating our economy and then gave some of that money to a direct competitor of an American industry admittedly in a lot of trouble, which is located in Finland.

So no. Can't think of one.

first he didnt give the car company in the article trillions of anything, second the money was used here, all of it , like your article said


but since you brought it up I can think of someone who gave the car boys some heavy duty cash .. Bush.

GM used the money to keep the company alive and GM's company extends to swell places in the far east ... theres a list, look it up.


heres the car companys address call them and ask ... gee, its not Finland, imagine that.


http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/en-u...ct/departments
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:07 PM   #25
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You really support Obama? Really?
Yes, I do!!!!!
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #26
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The money was used here to help the development of a foreign car company. A competitor to our domestic auto industry, which also needed a bailout. It didn't stimulate a damn thing here. Please take some classes. You are not intelligent enough to discuss this subject.

A "stimulus" is supposed to get something started that will continue after the stimulus is gone. The continuation effect of this boondoggle will be in Finland. Not here. Maybe you're ok with our tax money being spent to help a competitor, I'm not.

I'm done explaining this to idiots. If someone has an intelligent comment, let's talk. But if you're simply going to ignore facts and spin this in favor of Obama, forget it. Spend your time elsewhere. With the gymnastics required to make this look good for Obama, you should be on the Olympic team. In your Chinese made uniform.
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I can't think of any other President who demanded trillions of dollars for the sole purpose of stimulating our economy and then gave some of that money to a direct competitor of an American industry admittedly in a lot of trouble, which is located in Finland.

So no. Can't think of one.
Not the task you were assigned.

Let me refresh your memory...

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If you can't name one, just say so. I promise not to think any less of you.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:00 PM   #28
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You're an idiot, Doofie. That was your topic, not mine, and not the topic of this thread. And it's irrelevant, a "straw man" as it were. Not playing that game with you.

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You're an idiot, Doofie. That was your topic, not mine, and not the topic of this thread. And it's irrelevant, a "straw man" as it were. Not playing that game with you.

good did you call cali and talk to Fisker?

or fly to Japan and buy a Buick?

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Old 07-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #30
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You're an idiot, Doofie. That was your topic, not mine, and not the topic of this thread. And it's irrelevant, a "straw man" as it were. Not playing that game with you.

Not playing because you know quite well that this is little more than another D-Day complaint of yours.

Your incessant complaining on here isn't about what Obama does so much as it's about what Presidents do. All of them.

Your refusal to "play that game with me" only proves it.
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