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Old 07-08-2021, 02:25 AM   #331
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You didn’t read my Forbes link. Moderna received a few billion in taxpayer dollars. Without it, they would have burned thru the VC money.
The above statement is 100% incorrect. Did you click on hyper link in the Forbes link? Moderna got 470 million from a government agency called BARDA in July of 2020. This is from your link

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN24R0IN

Like I wrote in the other post. In the early years Moderna got private financing from VC, Astra Zeneca and companies the CEO did not identify. They got a 25 million grant from DARPA in 2013. That certainly was not enough for them to meet payroll for 7 years until they got the other money from BARDA in July 2020.

The statements made in the Forbes link were misleading and not accurate. The 470 million they got from BARDA in July 2020 was after most of the R&D on M-RNA was already completed.

Cambridge, MA-based Moderna Therapeutics is announcing later today (2013) it has snagged a grant worth as much as $24.6 million over the next five years from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). The U.S. military’s futuristic technology agency is committing the cash now to further develop Moderna’s messenger RNA drug technology to fight infectious diseases.

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Are we at the 19 nevus breakdown yet ,,,more LSM scare and deceive Does anyone here think the guberment can or is gonna protect you from illness ?Throu big pharma making billions and Facccccisss owning half of the vaccines with the nih ,,,,,,
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Regarding the playing a doctor on ECCIE.NET are you going to give us any more lectures on elevated HCG levels or an ectopic pregnancy?
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Again - 'a' - that was not the thrust of teh article quoted, and was your own mis-interpretation.

BTW - practicing medicine without a license is a crime in all states.



unfortunately - as DPST's do - ignoring facts is the usual response.
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Are we at the 19 nevus breakdown yet ,,,more LSM scare and deceive Does anyone here think the guberment can or is gonna protect you from illness ?Throu big pharma making billions and Facccccisss owning half of the vaccines with the nih ,,,,,,
The government does not own Moderna. Bambino mispoke. Here is the breakdown by year for the monies received from the USA.

2010 - 0.00
2011 - 0.00
2012 - 0.00
2013 - 25 million (DARPA)
2014 - 0.00
2015 - 0.00
2016 - 0.00
2017 - 0.00
2018 - 0.00
2019 - 0.00
2020 - 400 million (BARDA)

The R&D on the m-rna concept started in 2010 and had completed by 2020. The only thing left to do in 2020 was the clinical trials. They tested 44,000 people and the success rate was 94%.

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Pandemic is over .......
Not when you are having 20,000 new cases per day. That has not happened since May 2021. If the USA were at Herd Immunity you would not be seeing 20,000 cases per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/10/healt...day/index.html
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Not when you are having 20,000 new cases per day. That has not happened since May 2021. If the USA were at Herd Immunity you would not be seeing 20,000 cases per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/10/healt...day/index.html

well let's do some math shall we? with a known death rate of about 0.005 how many deaths is that?

about 100 per day.


More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. An additional 4.4 million are injured seriously enough to require medical attention. Road crashes are the leading cause of death in the U.S. for people aged 1-54.

38,000 / 365 = 104 per day.

you have as much chance of dying in a car wreck as covid. stop panicking.
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well let's do some math shall we? with a known death rate of about 0.005 how many deaths is that?

about 100 per day.


More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. An additional 4.4 million are injured seriously enough to require medical attention. Road crashes are the leading cause of death in the U.S. for people aged 1-54.

38,000 / 365 = 104 per day.

you have as much chance of dying in a car wreck as covid. stop panicking.
Probably the same as a shark attack or being struck by lighting.
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Covid is not about the disease - it is about permanent control by fascist DPST marxists.

who use the disease to shut down free enterprise and business - which they despise.

the DPST's envision a Communist society - a soviet Russia - as their paradise - with a big dose of pol pot Cambodia thrown in.



Don't U agree - DPST's - or are the fascist DPST's afraid of showing their real plans?




Meanwhile - fiden has minions going door to door to jab anyone who will stand still.

we have no good evidence of how many people have had the disease and recovered from asymptomatic / minimally symptomatic undiagnosed infections with Covid - or whether vaccination of those people is indicated and /or medically safe and effective.

Should people who do not have antibody tests to determine their status be vaccinated by fiden Force????
Stay tuned - more fascist DPST schemes to control America are on the horizon.
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Not when you are having 20,000 new cases per day. That has not happened since May 2021. If the USA were at Herd Immunity you would not be seeing 20,000 cases per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/10/healt...day/index.html
You can thank china and the dnc for releasing this biological weapon upon the Earth! Yall achieved success with lockdowns to get mail in ballots to steal the election. Yall have covid and race to divide this Country like never before! Two boogeymen to be front and center news day in day out for yalls bought and paid for lsm. Congratulations! Our Country is fucked!
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More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways.
Based on your statement above, it would take 13 years worth of car crashes to kill as many people as Sars CoV2 virus did in 12 months (over 500,000) people. You can play with numbers to make it look like anything you want. The bottom line is: The USA is not at Herd Immunity. When you are at Herd Immunity (and this varies by virus) you do not get 20,000 new cases per day!

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...h-covid19.html
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You can thank china and the dnc for releasing this biological weapon upon the Earth!
The SARS CoV2 virus evolved naturally. It was not made in the Wuhan lab. This has already been proven in post #227. The amino acid sequence that is present in the Spike protein of SARS CoV2 virus which gives it the ability to latch on to a surface protein found in lung cells was found in other Corona viruses. Try to keep up.

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The SARS CoV2 virus evolved naturally. It was not made in the Wuhan lab. This has already been proven in post #227. The amino acid sequence that is present in the Spike protein of SARS CoV2 virus which gives it the ability to latch on to a surface protein found in lung cells was found in other Corona viruses. Try to keep up.

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if you say so


A lab leak in Wuhan versus a natural hop from bats: Evidence for each theory of the coronavirus pandemic's origin

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...edium=referral


  • The idea the coronavirus leaked from a lab hasn't been disproved, though a WHO report said it was unlikely.
  • The virus probably jumped to people from animals. Biden gave US officials 90 days to assess both ideas.
  • Here's a breakdown of the evidence in favor of a lab leak and a natural spillover from animals.


It's the theory that refuses to die: Might the coronavirus have leaked out of a Chinese lab?


As long as the mystery of the pandemic's origin remains unsolved, the question will persist. Increasingly, global leaders are calling for more thorough investigations into the possibility.


That group includes President Joe Biden, Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization.


Though a month-long WHO investigation in the city of Wuhan concluded that the coronavirus most likely spilled over to people from animals — possibly at wildlife farms — the group found no definitive proof of that. Nor could it rule out a lab leak.



So Tedros said in March that he did "not believe that this assessment was extensive enough."


Fauci, meanwhile, said during a Senate hearing this month that the "possibility certainly exists" that the pandemic started because of a lab accident. Scott Gottlieb, the former head of the Food and Drug Administration, has also said there is some circumstantial evidence favoring a lab leak, as has Robert Redfield, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


In a Wednesday press conference, Biden gave the US intelligence community 90 days to collect and analyze evidence supporting each of the two scenarios, in the hopes of reaching a "definitive conclusion" on the coronavirus' origin.


Here's what to know about each theory — a lab leak and a natural spillover from animals — and the key pieces of evidence supporting each.


The lab-leak hypothesis

Eighteen scientists from the US, the UK, Canada, and Switzerland recently published a letter saying they thought the lab-leak theory remained viable.


Questions about a such a leak generally center on the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a high-level biosafety lab where some scientists had been studying coronaviruses before the pandemic. Wuhan, of course, is the city where authorities reported the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases. Below are the main reasons people think the virus might have emerged from the lab.



An aerial view of the campus of the Wuhan Institute of Virology on May 27, 2020. Hector Retamal/AFP via Getty

The Wuhan Institute of Virology was researching coronaviruses before the pandemic

Scientists at the WIV research infectious diseases — collecting, storing, and genetically analyzing samples of the most dangerous and infectious pathogens known to humankind. The institute boasts a biosafety level 4 lab, one of only a few dozen in the world.


Peter Ben Embarek, a WHO scientist specializing in animal disease, was part of the team that investigated the institute in January. He said it's natural to speculate about a link — especially given that the WIV moved to a new location in early December 2019, which happens to be just miles from the Huanan Seafood Market.


The first cluster of coronavirus cases in Wuhan was linked to the market, but it turned out to simply have hosted an early superspreader event.


"Even the staff in these labs told us that was their first reaction when they heard about this new emerging disease, this coronavirus: 'This is something coming out of our labs,'" Ben Embarek said in March.


But after investigating that possibility, the WIV staff said they found no evidence that samples of the new coronavirus had been stored at the institute prior to December 2019. Records reviewed by WHO did not indicate that any viruses closely related to the new coronavirus were kept in any Chinese lab before that month. The records also did not show any viruses that, when combined, could have produced the new coronavirus.


But Ben Embarek's team also said it wasn't given full access to the Wuhan institute's data.


WHO investigators couldn't conduct a full audit of the labs


Peter Daszak, Thea Fischer, and other members of the WHO team investigating the coronavirus' origins arriving at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. Hector Retamal/AFP via Getty



Ben Embarek said he and his fellow investigators didn't do a full audit of the WIV. The WHO team spent just hours at the institute — which isn't enough time to pore over files, databases, or freezer inventories. The institute's staff also did not share all of its records or safety logs.


That's why Tedros, Fauci, and many others are still calling for a full investigation of the lab.


However, Jonna Mazet, an epidemiologist at the University of California at Davis, has worked directly with WIV researchers, including one of its prominent virologists, Shi Zhengli. Mazet told Insider the lab's records were above reproach.


"She is absolutely positive that she had never identified this virus prior to the outbreak happening," Mazet told Insider, referring to Shi's work.


WIV staff members got sick with 'COVID-like' symptoms in November 2019

A report uncovered by The Wall Street Journal revealed that three WIV staff members got sick and went to a hospital more than a month before experts identified the first COVID-19 cases in Wuhan. The report — which an intelligence official said lacked sufficient corroboration — said the workers' symptoms were "consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illness."


According to the virologist Marion Koopmans, WHO team was aware that some WIV staff had gotten sick in the fall of 2019. They'd chalked the incidents up to season illness because blood samples taken from WIV staff in the months ahead of the pandemic all tested negative for coronavirus antibodies. (Such samples are taken routinely from biosafety lab workers to monitor their health.)


The coronavirus is easily transmissible among humans

Generally, it takes time for a new virus to adapt to be able to spread easily from person to person.


So people like Redfield point to the coronavirus' highly infectious nature as evidence it may be a product of "gain-of-function" research. In this kind of work, scientists tweak viruses with the goal of making the pathogens more transmissible or deadlier to figure out how to stop future pandemics.


"I do not believe that this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time that the virus came to the human became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human-to-human transmission," Redfield told CNN in March.


But Fauci said that same month that it's more likely that the coronavirus got good at jumping between people while spreading "below the radar" in China in late 2019. Growing evidence suggests COVID-19 was spreading for several weeks, if not months, before the first cases were reported.


That allowed the virus "to be pretty well adapted when first recognized," Fauci said.


Lab leaks happen, and US intelligence suggested the WIV had poor safety protocol


A worker directing members of the WHO team on their arrival at the airport in Wuhan, in China's Hubei province, on January 14. AP Photo/Ng Han Guan



Three years ago, US officials visiting Wuhan sent a pair of memos to the State Department warning of inadequate safety measures at the lab. The institute seems to have made rigorous changes since then, though, and the WHO team was satisfied with the lab's protocols.


Ben Embarek said the WIV housed a "state-of-the-art lab," which is part of the reason his team thinks it's "very unlikely that anything could escape from such a place."


Mazet, too, has said it's "highly unlikely this was a lab accident," since she worked with WIV staff to develop and implement a "very stringent safety protocol."


Still, Ben Embarek noted in February that "accidents do happen."
"We have many examples in many countries in the world of past accidents," he said.


Though such accidents are rare, there have been four instances in which SARS has leaked from laboratories in Taiwan, Singapore, and Beijing.


The wildlife farms where the virus might have emerged are 1,000 miles from Wuhan


A cyclist in front of the closed Huanan seafood market in Wuhan on February 9. Getty



The wildlife farms where the WHO team thinks the coronavirus most likely emerged are 800 to 1,000 miles from Wuhan.


But Koopmans said the WHO team found that rabbits and ferret-badgers sold at Huanan Seafood Market were transported there from regions in China where bats harbor viruses similar to the new coronavirus. Both rabbits and ferret-badgers are susceptible to coronavirus infection, so could have passed it to farmers who traveled into the city, or to market shoppers.


Still, just because the first reported cluster of cases emerged in Wuhan doesn't mean that's where the pandemic truly began. Wuhan is the largest city in Hubei province, and people from all over central China travel though the region. Once the virus arrived in a dense, urban environment, it makes sense it would spread rapidly there.


The animal-spillover theory

After the investigation in Wuhan, the WHO team determined the coronavirus "most likely" jumped from bats to people via an intermediary animal host at a wildlife farm. This kind of spillover has been the leading theory throughout the pandemic primarily because 75% of new infectious diseases come to us from animals. Plus, the coronavirus' genetic code is very similar to that of other coronaviruses found circulating in bats. Here's the evidence supporting this idea.



Members of the World Health Organization's team investigating the origins of the coronavirus pandemic at a press conference in Wuhan on February 9. Kyodo News/Getty

The WHO concluded that an animal-to-human hop is 'most likely'

In southern China, the WHO found, people interacted closely with animals like civets, minks, pangolins, rabbits, and raccoon dogs at farms where these animals were bred in captivity for food.


All of these species can be infected by the new coronavirus, and any contact with an infected animal or its poop can allow a virus to jump from animals to people. That's why the WHO found this to be the "most likely" origin of the pandemic. Still, the team examined 80,000 animals from 31 provinces across China and didn't find a single case of the coronavirus. China shut down the specific wildlife farms in question in February 2020, and the WHO researchers weren't given access to samples from animals from these farms.


Plus, according to Tedros, the WHO experts had difficulties accessing COVID-19 infection data and patient blood samples from in and around Wuhan — which could also cast doubt on the team's conclusions.


The scientists behind the recent letter about the lab-leak theory wrote that in the WHO's report, that possibility was "not given balanced consideration." Only four of the report's 313 pages discuss evidence of a lab accident.


SARS-CoV-2 shares 97% of its genetic code with other coronaviruses found in bats


A greater horseshoe bat, a relative of species that was the original host of the SARS virus. De Agostini/Getty



Bats are common virus reservoirs. Cross-species hops from bat populations also led to the outbreaks of Ebola, SARS, and the Nipah virus.


A wealth of evidence shows similarities between the new coronavirus and coronaviruses in bat populations. A May 2020 study, for example, revealed that the new coronavirus shared 97.1% of its genetic code with a coronavirus called RmYN02, which was found in bats in China's Yunnan province between May and October 2019. A paper in the journal Nature, published by Shi's group at the WIV, found that a coronavirus named RaTG13 was a 96.2% match.


RaTG13, it turns out, is the same virus that Shi and her WIV colleagues collected samples of nearly a decade ago in a remote mine. Six miners got a mysterious pneumonia-like illness there in 2012, and three of them died, according to The Wall Street Journal. Blood samples from the miners didn't test positive for the new coronavirus, however.


When Shi and coauthors published their genetic analysis of RaTG13 last year, they did not disclose its link to the miners' deaths.


Three-quarters of infectious diseases come from natural spillover


A farmer checking rabbits at his farm on January 29 in Chongqing, China. Qu Mingbin/VCG via Getty



Three out of every four emerging infectious diseases come to us from other species; these pathogens are known as zoonotic diseases.
Peter Daszak, a disease ecologist with EcoHealth Alliance who was a member of the WHO investigation team, told NPR in April 2020 that "1 to 7 million people" were exposed to zoonotic viruses in Southeast Asia each year.


"That's the pathway," he said. "It's just so obvious to all of us working in the field."


Daszak and the EcoHealth Alliance have worked with and funded WIV research in the past, though that funding was canceled last year. Some people suggest Daszek has a bias against the lab-leak theory, since it could lead his organization to be seen as culpable for funding research that led to the pandemic.


Still, spillover events have doubled — if not tripled — in the past 40 years, according to Dennis Carroll, the former director of USAID's emerging-threats division. That's because people are increasingly turning wild areas into farms and fields for livestock production.


"Whatever future threats we're going to face already exist — they are currently circulating in wildlife," Carroll told Nautilus Magazine last year.
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for over a year any discussion of any possibility that covid came from lab research was completely suppressed by the media and big tech. post that on twittybird or fuckbook and banned! the press labeled anyone daring to raise the possibility as a "conspiracy nut". for some in this forum who will not even acknowledge that there is a possibility that it was the product of gain-of-function research is denying the fact that the entire purpose of gain-of-function research is to increase the ability of a virus to infect humans.

this fact alone makes it not only possible but more likely than natural crossover.


then we find out that Dr. FrankenFauci overrode a moratorium on exactly this type of dangerous research and enabled this work at a lab with known prior safety concerns located in the very city where this virus outbreak is believed to have begun.

yeah. that's just a coincidence .. right??? nothing to see here!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lab-leak-...201329270.html


Lab leak theory, once 'political dynamite,' gains credibility in new study

Alexander Nazaryan·National Correspondent

July 2, 2021·15 min read


The rejections kept coming. The coronavirus was a topic of intense scientific fascination, yet the four Australian researchers challenging conventional wisdom about how the pandemic originated couldn’t find a publisher for their study.


“We were quite stunned,” recalls one of that study’s authors, Dr. Nikolai Petrovsky, an endocrinologist at Flinders University in Australia who is also developing a coronavirus vaccine. The work he and his group had done only received what he called “blanket rejections.”


That finally changed late last month, when Scientific Reports published their paper, “In silico comparison of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-ACE2 binding affinities across species and implications for virus origin.” The journal is part of the prestigious Nature family of publications. Acceptance there has given greater credibility to a theory that until recently was taboo: that the coronavirus could have emerged from a laboratory.


Some wonder why the study’s publication took so long. “It’s definitely concerning that the paper took over one year to be accepted for publication,” says Pat Fidopiastis, a microbiologist at California Polytechnic State University. “It’s important to continue asking questions and demand honest answers.”


The Australians’ findings were scientific but had major political ramifications. Using computer models, Petrovsky and his co-authors set out to learn which animal the virus may have originated from before infecting humans. Proponents of the zoonotic spillover hypothesis believed that the pathogen known as SARS-CoV-2 originated in bats and then made the leap to humans, possibly through an unknown intermediate species.



Scientists say that bats are a suspected source of viruses, including COVID-19, that have leapt the species barriers to humans. (Sia Kambou/AFP via Getty Images)


Throughout much of 2020, that was how most scientists assumed the pandemic began. A wet market in the Chinese city of Wuhan came to be seen as the likely site of the spillover that began the pandemic.


The Australians modeled how the distinctive spike protein that protrudes from the surface of the coronavirus binds to a receptor called ACE2, found on the membranes of human and animal cells. Essentially, the researchers’ computer model tried to calculate how tightly the key that was the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein would fit into the ACE2 keyhole of different species: monkeys, snakes, mice, bats and, of course, humans, along with many others. If the spike protein had trouble binding to the ACE2 receptors in a species, that species wasn’t likely to be the source of the coronavirus.


Petrovsky and his co-authors all but ruled out the notion of a direct zoonotic spillover from bats to humans, without an intermediate species involved, because the virus that was believed to have begun circulating in China in late 2019 had low binding affinity to the bat ACE2 receptor.


There was still the possibility that the virus had jumped from bats to another species before infecting humans, but none of the candidates the Australians tried seemed an especially good fit for that role.


“If the animal that bridges between bat and man cannot be found, the zoonotic explanation looks much less likely,” says David Winkler, a molecular biologist at the La Trobe Institute for Molecular Science and a co-author of the study with Petrovsky. That alone isn’t evidence of human intervention, Winkler says, but it does raise the question: If the virus didn’t come from nature, where did it come from?


One popular suspect had been the pangolin, a scaly relative of the anteater that is both eaten in China and used in traditional Chinese medicine. It performed well in the Australians’ computer models, with the coronavirus predicted to have the second-highest binding affinity for pangolin ACE2, after that of humans.



The pangolin, a scaly-skinned mammal once thought to have been the intermediate carrier of the coronavirus. (Themba Hadebe/AP)


Only this was a false lead in the search for the intermediate species, because the pangolin coronavirus does not resemble SARS-CoV-2. Crucially, it lacks a key genetic signature of SARS-CoV-2 called a furin cleavage site.


Also, pangolins are rare and, contrary to reports from early 2020, are not traded in the wildlife markets of Wuhan. Last month, a joint research team from Chinese and Western institutions published a survey of 47,381 different individual animals, from 38 species, sold at Wuhan markets between May 2017 and November 2019. During that time, not a single pangolin or bat was sold in the entire city.


“Pangolins were not likely the spillover host,” concluded the authors, two of whom are affiliated with an animal research laboratory at China West Normal University in Nanchong.


Tarik Jašarević, a spokesperson for the World Health Organization, told Yahoo News that the survey about which animals were sold in Wuhan markets “makes the hypothesis of a spillover through an intermediary host more likely” by demonstrating just how many different species of animal, including exotic ones, were on sale.


“The article confirms that many susceptible animal species were sold live in markets in Wuhan. Including badgers, weasels, mink, etc.,” Jašarević wrote in an email. “Many of them could have been playing the role of an intermediary species.”


The Australians, however, in addition to ruling out a number of species as potential intermediaries, found that the coronavirus hadn’t seemed to need an intermediate species in order to proliferate through the human population. Studying genomic data of human virus isolates from the very earliest stages of the pandemic in China, they saw that the coronavirus was already well adapted to infect humans, even at a stage where it is not thought to have infected more than a few hundred people in Hubei province. Such quick and efficient adaptation to humans meant the virus may “have arisen from a recombination event that occurred in a laboratory handling coronaviruses,” wrote the Australian group, which along with Petrovsky and Winkler included Sakshi Piplani and Puneet Kumar Singh.



The Wuhan Institute of Virology, where a WHO team investigated the origins of the coronavirus. (Thomas Peter/Reuters)


“Basically, you would expect a naturally derived virus to be less well suited to attaching to the human ACE2 receptor than the SARS-CoV-2 virus is,” says Dr. Jayanta Bhattacharya, a professor of medicine at Stanford who has routinely bucked popular opinion in the course of the pandemic. “Or if it is naturally derived, we should be able to find an intermediate virus that infects pangolins or bats about as well as humans.”


The Australian scientists did less to endorse the lab escape scenario than to discount the zoonotic one through a process of elimination. “We thought it was a pretty neutral, really fascinating paper,” Petrovsky told Yahoo News. “We thought this should be, you know, just grabbed by one of the top journals.”


Instead, it would be more than a year of rejections, frustrations, revisions and delays before the paper was finally published last month in a major scientific journal. Four of the top science journals in the world turned it down, even as their pages brimmed with other coronavirus-related studies. The authors believe that had nothing to do with the merits of their scholarship but rather with a long-standing resistance to the possibility that the coronavirus pathogen originated at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, or another biomedical institution in that city.


One of the other laboratories, the Wuhan branch of the Chinese Center for Disease Prevention and Control, is about a 20-minute walk from the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where initial investigations focused. That may mean nothing in the end, but pointing out shortcomings in the zoonotic hypothesis is no longer “political dynamite,” as Petrovsky puts it.



The Wuhan Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where a number of people fell ill with a virus. (Dake Kang/AP)


Some fear that legitimating the lab leak hypothesis could exacerbate anti-Asian xenophobia that has been gaining force in recent months. Petrovsky flatly rejects the notion that the virus was engineered by Chinese scientists, a theory some House Republicans have forwarded without evidence. “That would be like saying that Chernobyl was deliberately exploded by the Russians,” he says, referring to the infamous 1986 partial nuclear meltdown that contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union. “No one — no one — would deliberately do such things.”


But he also wants to remove insinuations of conspiracy and racism from the lab leak hypothesis. “This is not an unusual event, unfortunately. Lab leaks happen,” Petrovsky notes. That includes several in the United States. In 2014, eight mice infected with SARS or flu viruses escaped a laboratory at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill; that same year, monkeys at the Tulane National Primate Research Center near New Orleans were sickened with a dangerous bacterium that is thought to have clung to a worker’s clothes.


Opposition to the possibility of a lab leak has fallen away dramatically in the last several months in mainstream news publications.
“The COVID lab-leak theory goes mainstream,” went an Axios headline from May that captured the shifting mood.



Rhesus macaque monkeys at the Tulane National Primate Research Center in Covington, La., where the focus of study has shifted to the COVID-19 pandemic. (Kathleen Flynn/Reuters)


Last year, Vanity Fair was one of many publications to flay conservatives for pushing the lab leak hypothesis; in June, the very same magazine published an 11,000-word report by investigative reporter Katherine Eban suggesting that China’s allies in the medical establishment and skittish U.S. government officials sought to avoid questions about how the pandemic began.


President Biden has said China must do more to solve that mystery. He has given the U.S. intelligence community 90 days to conduct an investigation of its own. An earlier investigation by intelligence analysts found that a lab escape was not outside the realm of possibility.


None of that means the lab escape accident is true. That hypothesis has plenty of gaps, and plenty of detractors. “The absence of an identified intermediate species is not a strong argument against the natural-spillover hypothesis,” says Dr. Richard Ebright, a chemist at Rutgers University who has sought a more complete investigation into the pandemic’s origins. He says the Australian group’s results are “consistent with both natural spillover and lab spillover hypotheses for the origin of SARS-CoV-2,” meaning that they are, in effect, inconclusive on that key question.


One way to quell speculation about how the pandemic originated would be to find the elusive intermediate species.


“It could be we will never know,” Petrovsky says. He points out that it took years for the Soviet Union to admit to an anthrax accident at a laboratory that killed dozens in the city of Yekaterinburg.


“With time, terrible mistakes are admitted,” he says.


China, for its part, has steadfastly denied responsibility for the pandemic, going as far as to suggest that if the virus did escape, it was from the bioweapons laboratory at Fort Detrick, Md., an assertion that lacks any evidence or credibility.


In the meantime, skepticism about the virus’s natural origins appears to be growing among Americans. A recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll found that 46 percent of Americans now believe that the virus escaped from a Chinese laboratory. Only 18 percent trust the zoonotic hypothesis. The rest are unsure.


Researchers like Petrovsky know full well that they are extremely unlikely to gain on-the-ground access to China. Several months ago, journalists for Western media outlets tried to enter an abandoned mine in Yunnan province that some believe housed bats carrying what we would come to know as the coronavirus. The journalists were trailed and turned away.



A mine shaft in China's Yunnan province once harbored bats infected with the closest known relative of the COVID-19 virus. (Ng Han Guan/AP)


What virologists do have is genetic code. On June 6, physicist Richard Muller and physician Steven Quay published an article in the Wall Street Journal pointing out that the coronavirus contained a genetic sequence called double CGG that is a hallmark of laboratory experiments with viruses. That same sequence is rarely found in nature.


The double CGG sequence is found at the critical furin cleavage site — the very same feature that the Australians had found lacking in pangolin coronaviruses.


Fidopiastis, the CalPoly microbiologist, found the presence of that sequence curious as well. The coronavirus “doesn’t appear to have been circulating long enough prior to being noticed to have evolved a receptor so well optimized for human cells,” he told Yahoo News. “Thus, the lab manipulation scenario is far more likely than this happening by chance.”


Two weeks after publication of the hotly debated Wall Street Journal article, the American scientist Dr. Jesse Bloom of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle announced he had discovered 13 genetic sequences from the early stages of the pandemic that had mysteriously disappeared from a National Institutes of Health database. Bloom concluded that “the Huanan Seafood Market sequences that are the focus of the joint WHO-China report are not fully representative of the viruses in Wuhan early in the epidemic.”


The report Bloom mentioned had been published by the WHO in late March. Investigators from the agency were allowed to visit the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but access to researchers and their records was highly limited. The only American on that team was Peter Daszak, chief executive of the EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based organization that studies emerging diseases.



Peter Daszak and Thea Fischer, members of the World Health Organization team tasked with investigating the origins of the coronavirus, arriving at Wuhan Institute of Virology, Feb. 3, 2021. (Thomas Peter/Reuters)


Daszak’s role in discrediting the notion of a lab escape in the eyes of scientists, journalists and members of the public remains one of the more curious aspects of the pandemic. The WHO report published in March seemed to broadly reflect his views, calling a lab leak “extremely unlikely.”


EcoHealth’s work often involves collaborating with foreign entities. In the years before the pandemic began, EcoHealth had sent $700,000 in grants from the National Institutes of Health to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. NIH head Francis Collins recently testified that those funds could not be used for gain-of-function research — which involves changing a virus in some way to test it — but he seemed to concede that it was impossible to know exactly what was happening at the Chinese laboratory.


An NIH spokesperson told Yahoo News there was nothing improper about the grant to EcoHealth Alliance that was used to fund work at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. “NIH supports this type of research in other countries to learn more about viruses lurking in bats and other mammals that have the potential to spill over to humans and cause widespread disease,” the spokesperson said. “The viruses created did not gain any new attributes compared to the original virus.”


Daszak was also the organizing force behind a statement in the Lancet, perhaps the world’s preeminent scientific journal, published in February 2020, when relatively little was known about the coronavirus. The statement declared “solidarity with all scientists and health professionals in China,” where the virus had originated sometime in late 2019.


“We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin,” the Lancet statement said, in a clear rebuke of then-President Donald Trump.

Trump at a coronavirus task force briefing at the White House, March 20, 2020. (Evan Vucci/AP)


Eban’s article in Vanity Fair described how Daszak “organized the influential Lancet statement, with the intention of concealing his role and creating the impression of scientific unanimity.” Just days after her investigation was published, the Lancet included an amended disclosure from Daszak.


Daszak did not respond to requests for comment from Yahoo News.


The Lancet was one of the journals that rejected the Australian paper on ACE2 receptors last year, several months after Daszak’s letter was published. In a statement to Yahoo News, a Lancet representative told Yahoo News that its “journals set extremely high standards and papers are selected for publication based on the strength of the science and the credibility of the scientific argument.” The representative would not say why, specifically, the Australian paper was rejected. “The Lancet group does not comment on papers it has not published,” the statement said.


“It is very important to talk about the scientific journals — I think they are partially responsible for the cover-up,” the French biologist Virginie Courtier-Orgogozo told the British journalist Ian Birrell last month. China has lavished millions on scientific journals in the West, Birrell wrote, while also providing those journals access to its own scientific institutions.


Scientific Reports had first shown interest in the Australians’ paper last year but rejected the submission after one of the reviewers charged with assessing it made critical comments. The researchers appealed the rejection, and following a lengthy revision process, the paper was published in June.


A press representative forwarded a statement from Scientific Reports editor in chief Richard White to Yahoo News that read: “As with all our journals, Scientific Reports does not reject papers for political reasons. We cannot comment on the editorial history of any paper as we treat that information as confidential.”


Winkler readily admits that the computer models of binding affinities are “clearly not sufficient” to determine just how the coronavirus became so acutely adaptable to humans. Without a more complete investigation, that determination may never be made.
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