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04-08-2026, 09:43 AM
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Same question to you eye.
What specific actions would you have taken 60 days ago as Iran barreled towards a nuclear weapon?
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04-08-2026, 09:52 AM
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You would done what 60 days ago?
What specific actions would you have taken regarding Iran other than complain?
Dems have no solutions, just complaints. All Dems do is follow the lead of their bribed party leaders in the role of useful idiots.
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RedHats currently have all three bases of power in the executive branch and legislative branch, and even a loaded SCOTUS. How is it the minorities responsibility to create the solutions when they are literally blocked from knowing the latest intelligence unless they sue to see it. And lets not forget Tulsi Gabbard, who thinks that the only person who can claim an imminent danger is the president vs. the military and national security personnel. It's a fucking shame that the people of the world laugh at Trump and his clown car administration; the guy who has no idea of what he is doing, and will change military plans when he feels it in his gut. He may have a gut feeling, but it's likely from too many hamberders and cofevee, along with 10 diet cokes per day.
The unpolished turd running the show, menatally is a whimsical moron -a vengeful-strength type of idiot at best. What I do know is that the Dems had like 10 plans that didn't include spending 40 billion so far at a billion a day- and a minimum of like 100-200 billion overall. The leadership in the AREA hasn't changed one fucking bit in Iran. I wonder if they could have done an Iran Contra deal for that type of money and got something to show for it, besides having to pay to rebuild an entire country we bombed for the shits n giggles of DUI hire Kegsbreath.
What could a few hundred billion have been used for domestically???
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04-08-2026, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
You would done what 60 days ago?
What specific actions would you have taken regarding Iran other than complain?
Dems have no solutions, just complaints. All Dems do is follow the lead of their bribed party leaders in the role of useful idiots.
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Bullshit. A deal was already in place with Iran before trump slithered his way into office in 2017. A deal that Iran struck with Democrats.
Dear Leader just couldn't stand that it was the black guy who made the deal, so he tore up the agreement. trump ending that agreement was the catalyst for what we're seeing today.
Secondly, trump's own Pentagon admitted on 3/1/26 that there was no threat of Iran attacking us.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pen...ay-2026-03-02/
And now, with an extra $100 million per day flowing into Iran's coffers, they should be able to rebuild everything we destroyed in a few short months.
I ask again, what exactly did we get out of this deal?
Because, for all intents and purposes, Iran will be better off than they were before this in just a few months. Unless something changes dramatically, it's not a stretch to say Iran won this war.
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04-08-2026, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
RedHats currently have all three bases of power in the executive branch and legislative branch, and even a loaded SCOTUS. How is it the minorities responsibility to create the solutions when they are literally blocked from knowing the latest intelligence unless they sue to see it. And lets not forget Tulsi Gabbard, who thinks that the only person who can claim an imminent danger is the president vs. the military and national security personnel. It's a fucking shame that the people of the world laugh at Trump and his clown car administration; the guy who has no idea of what he is doing, and will change military plans when he feels it in his gut. He may have a gut feeling, but it's likely from too many hamberders and cofevee, along with 10 diet cokes per day.
The unpolished turd running the show, menatally is a whimsical moron -a vengeful-strength type of idiot at best. What I do know is that the Dems had like 10 plans that didn't include spending 40 billion so far at a billion a day- and a minimum of like 100-200 billion overall. The leadership in the AREA hasn't changed one fucking bit in Iran. I wonder if they could have done an Iran Contra deal for that type of money and got something to show for it, besides having to pay to rebuild an entire country we bombed for the shits n giggles of DUI hire Kegsbreath.
What could a few hundred billion have been used for domestically???
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You didn’t answer at all, Eye.
No options, no solutions, just complaints.
And what could the money have been used for domestically? Well let’s see, what could the money from the Ukraine war have been used for domestically? And how much of that made its way to war effort vs lining politicians pockets?
As far as Iran is that money spent worth it you to know Iran won’t have a nuclear weapon, at least for now? Or would the world be better off once they got nukes?
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04-08-2026, 09:58 AM
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The solution was already in place before trump fucked it up in 2017.
MAGA really is this gullible and stupid...
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04-08-2026, 10:02 AM
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Bullshit. A deal was already in place with Iran before trump slithered his way into office in 2017. A deal that Iran struck with Democrats.
Dear Leader just couldn't stand that it was the black guy who made the deal, so he tore up the agreement. trump ending that agreement was the catalyst for what we're seeing today.
Secondly, trump's own Pentagon admitted on 3/2/26 that there was no threat of Iran attacking us.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pen...ay-2026-03-02/
And now, with an extra $100 million per day flowing into Iran's coffers, they should be able to rebuild everything we destroyed in a few short months.
I ask again, what exactly did we get out of this deal?
Because, for all intents and purposes, Iran will be better off than they were before this in just a few months. Unless something changes dramatically, it's not a stretch to say Iran won this war.
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Hahahaha! Talk about being clueless!
Trump's 2018 withdrawal from the JCPOA was a good decision because the deal was fundamentally flawed: it included temporary "sunset" provisions that would have allowed Iran to legally scale up uranium enrichment and advanced centrifuges after 10–15 years, effectively paving a path to a nuclear threshold state rather than permanently blocking one.
It also failed to constrain Iran's ballistic missile program (the ideal delivery system for nukes) or its regional aggression and terrorism sponsorship via proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, while sanctions relief funneled billions to the regime that bolstered these activities.
Maximum pressure via reimposed sanctions aimed to deny Iran any path to a bomb "not now, not ever," force behavioral change, and signal to adversaries (like North Korea) that weak, loophole-ridden deals wouldn't stand—prioritizing long-term leverage over a short-term, one-sided pause.
Critics will note Iran's nuclear advances post-withdrawal, but the original deal's design flaws made escalation inevitable once restrictions expired anyway.
The Dem voters will continue to be nothing more than useful idiots.
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04-08-2026, 10:05 AM
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Lol. trump just secured an extra $100 million a day for Iran. If you're celebrating that as a "win", I don't know how to help you.
I ask for a 3rd time: what exactly did we get out of this?
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04-08-2026, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
You would done what 60 days ago?
What specific actions would you have taken regarding Iran other than complain?
Dems have no solutions, just complaints. All Dems do is follow the lead of their bribed party leaders in the role of useful idiots.
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04-08-2026, 10:11 AM
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The $100 million figure appears exaggerated or conflated but feel free to explain if you can.
Can’t wait to see the detail which won’t be provided. Lmao.
Also any “gain” depends on the crisis continuing which is unlikely for anything but the short term.
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04-08-2026, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
You didn’t answer at all, Eye.
No options, no solutions, just complaints.
And what could the money have been used for domestically? Well let’s see, what could the money from the Ukraine war have been used for domestically? And how much of that made its way to war effort vs lining politicians pockets?
As far as Iran is that money spent worth it you to know Iran won’t have a nuclear weapon, at least for now? Or would the world be better off once they got nukes?
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04-08-2026, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
The $100 million figure appears exaggerated or conflated but feel free to explain if you can.
Can’t wait to see the detail which won’t be provided. Lmao.
Also any “gain” depends on the crisis continuing which is unlikely for anything but the short term.
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Guess what? $100 million per day is the bare minimum. It could be as high as $250 million per day.
Between 80 and 130 tankers pass thru the Strait of Hormuz on a daily basis, in normal times. Upwards of 30,000 tankers per year. $2 million per tanker.
Hopefully you can find time to do the math while you're being so cocky.
Iran will be back to full strength in no time thanks to dipshit donnie and his voters who never hold him accountable for anything.
https://www.britannica.com/question/...rait-of-Hormuz
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04-08-2026, 10:26 AM
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Lol. trump just secured an extra $100 million a day for Iran. If you're celebrating that as a "win", I don't know how to help you.
I ask for a 3rd time: what exactly did we get out of this?
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04-08-2026, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jayzee43
Guess what? $100 million per day is the bare minimum. It could be as high as $250 million per day.
Between 80 and 130 tankers pass thru the Strait of Hormuz on a daily basis, in normal times. Upwards of 30,000 tankers per year. $2 million per tanker.
Hopefully you can find time to do the math while you're being so cocky.
Iran will be back to full strength in no time thanks to dipshit donnie and his voters who never hold him accountable for anything.
https://www.britannica.com/question/...rait-of-Hormuz
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Batter swings and misses again. Strike 2.
1st your article is garbage as usual. It doesn’t provide the conclusion you suggest. The amount of mental gymnastics to get to your fantasy number is gold medal worthy.
Under UNCLOS (international maritime law), ships enjoy the right of transit passage through the strait. Coastal states like Iran cannot impose blanket tolls or fees "by reason only of their passage"—only for specific services rendered, applied without discrimination.
Iran's selective $2 million-per-ship demands (and parliament's approval) are widely viewed as illegal coercion/extortion, not legitimate revenue. Any short-term payments extracted during the 2026 conflict are opportunistic and limited.
Widespread enforcement would trigger naval intervention, rerouting, alternative pipelines, boycotts, or military pushback from major powers—making figures unrealistic and unsustainable.
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04-08-2026, 10:53 AM
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JZ, 60 days ago you would have made what decision regarding Iran and its nuclear program?
What actions wound you have taken besides complaining?
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04-08-2026, 11:34 AM
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Batter swings and misses again. Strike 2.
1st your article is garbage as usual. It doesn’t provide the conclusion you suggest. The amount of mental gymnastics to get to your fantasy number is gold medal worthy.
Under UNCLOS (international maritime law), ships enjoy the right of transit passage through the strait. Coastal states like Iran cannot impose blanket tolls or fees "by reason only of their passage"—only for specific services rendered, applied without discrimination.
Iran's selective $2 million-per-ship demands (and parliament's approval) are widely viewed as illegal coercion/extortion, not legitimate revenue. Any short-term payments extracted during the 2026 conflict are opportunistic and limited.
Widespread enforcement would trigger naval intervention, rerouting, alternative pipelines, boycotts, or military pushback from major powers—making figures unrealistic and unsustainable.
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The fact that 80 to 130 ships pass thru the Strait daily is "garbage"? Huh? Do you know how counting works? That's a genuine question based on the rest of this drivel.
trump's own Pentagon admitted there was no threat from Iran. Also, why did trump blow a fuse when news of Iran's $2 million tolls broke?
He freaked out, threatening to jail people at CNN for reporting the news. Lol. Why so upset, donnie? If it's not true, you just laugh it off, right?
And since when did "widely viewed as illegal" ever stop trump from committing crimes, or his dipshit voters from covering up for those crimes?
The amount of naivete on display here is hilarious.
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