I am Just Stating the Facts.

[Whirlaway]

You claim you are "only stating the facts"....

Let me give you 2 key points in your own thread in which you don't "state the facts"

1. Romney didn't claim he would get the unemployment rate to 6% by the end of his 1st term....Romney actually claimed he would get the unemployment rate to 6% or lower !

2. The POTUS can lower or increase gas prices; thru any number of executive actions or in-actions. For example releasing supplies from our national stockpile would typically lower gas prices. Keeping Keystone oil off the market, not approving federal offshore leases, higher/Lower CAFE standards...any number of actions by the POTUS can drive gasoline prices.


When one claims he is "only stating the facts" you should do just that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1539827.html

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

JD you must have missed my numerous post- I stated a million times that the lowering or the increase in gas prices has nothing to do with the POTUS- even Obama stated that when Romney try to sneak in:" when Bush left office gas was $1.79//" I have seen countless of Republicans blame Obama when gas price peaked.
Also, are you really that stupid to say Bush wasn't in a recession? The economy collapsed on his watch, the housing market crashed on his watch- are you saying if Bush was still in office that somehow the results would have been different? Don't be a dumb ass- even Bush admits the economy was in shambles when he left- Bush passed a mess to to Obama and no one but you denies that fact.

And let's not forget; Obama's campaign (and presidential) promises have been mostly lies.......starting with

Obama pledges unemployment wouldn't go above 8% with his stimulus plan.



History tells us Romney has been proven right on domestic and foreign policy issues while Obama has been proven wrong.

This thread doesn't help Obama's place in history; it only buttresses the many lies of his presidency (what I call American's Lost Decade).

[Whirlaway]

Still waiting for you to tell us how Obama's sky high DOW has improved the economic health of American families....................

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Where is your proof that Obama's economic policies have improved the economic health of American families. Despite large gains in the DOW, American Household wealth for top families is still below peak years under Bush and for the bottom rung....Obama has been disaster. Household wealth for this group is worse than ever in our recent history.

The chart below shows that both groups (rich and poor have not recovered).



http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014.../weal-d19.html

Additionally, the chart below shows the net gain in jobs have gone to Foreign Born Workers not American born workers during the Obama years!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

2. The POTUS can lower or increase gas prices; thru any number of executive actions. For example releasing supplies from our national stockpile would typically lower gas prices.

Hypothetically and theoretically, within the requirements of the legislative mandates controlling the Strategic Reserves. Obaminable has not done that with respect to the recent lowering of gasoline prices. For anyone to suggest he as done anything to lower gasoline prices is .... factually inaccurate .. to say the least.

There was a release/sale in 2011 of about 30 million barrels. There were 5 million barrels released in April and May of 2014.

[Whirlaway]

I agree; in fact, one can make a very sound argument that Obama has done just the opposite = kept prices higher than necessary.

And there is NO doubt that Obama would sign into law an increase in the Federal gasoline tax (if that legislation made it's way to his desk).

Obama wants higher gasoline taxes.....

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Hypothetically and theoretically, within the requirements of the legislative mandates controlling the Strategic Reserves. Obaminable has not done that with respect to the recent lowering of gasoline prices. For anyone to suggest he as done anything to lower gasoline prices is .... factually inaccurate .. to say the least.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I agree; in fact, one can make a very sound argument that Obama has done just the opposite = kept prices higher than necessary.

And there is NO doubt that Obama would sign into law an increase in the Federal gasoline tax (if that legislation made it's way to his desk).

Obama wants higher gasoline taxes.....

Here come the Whir-LIE-turd lies again!

Where's the committee recommendation on raising gas taxes?

Where's the legislation?

Where's the congressman proposing ithers legislation?

Where's the link from POTUS supporting higher federal gasoline taxes? (Probably with the MLK quote we've all be asking for you to post!)

Why DO YOU CONTINUE TO SPIN, EXAGGERATE AND LIE? with you, every silver lining is backed by bullshit. it must be exhausting for you being so miserable and bitter every fucking day. I know you've got no problem sharing the sunshine with the world. But ...

You're making shit up again, Whir-LIE-turd!

[Whirlaway]

AssUP the Village Troll; doesn't understand the meaning of the operative words "would" and "if"...

Try to convince us that Obama wouldn't sign into law an increase in the gas tax.....we know he wants passage of a carbon tax...intelligent people know Obama wouldn't oppose gasoline excise tax legislation that is currently being discussed on Capitol Hill.

Obama's carbon tax will increase fossil fuel prices. FACT JACK....Obama favors increasomg taxes on working Americans. But AssUp the Village Troll thinks otherwise !

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...r-gas-tax-hike

[Whirlaway]

In reality the Obama economy has been saved by Sara Palin; her "drill baby drill" mantra (and fracking) has given American workers the largest tax cut in recent American history......and our economy is doing better because of the lower gas prices. Lower prices have done more for the American middle class consumer pocketbooks than the sky high DOW Wellendowed touts !

Obama should thank Sara Palin....oh the irony.....dimwit Democrats opposed drilling and fracking, they should thank their lucky stars!

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

In reality the Obama economy has been saved by Sara Palin; her "drill baby drill" mantra (and fracking) has given American workers the largest tax cut in recent American history......and our economy is doing better because of the lower gas prices. Lower prices have done more for the American middle class consumer pocketbooks than the sky high DOW Wellendowed touts !

Obama should thank Sara Palin....oh the irony.....dimwit Democrats opposed drilling and fracking, they should thank their lucky stars!

WW why don't you write Faux news and tell them to shove- here's an article and video in which a Fox News pundit said lower gas prices is a bad thing: http://www.examiner.com/article/fox-...ng-under-obama

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Obama should thank Sara Palin....oh the irony.....dimwit Democrats opposed drilling and fracking, they should thank their lucky stars!

+1, and as one of our other great posters might say.."the fuckers!!"

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

In reality the Obama economy has been saved by Sara Palin; her "drill baby drill" mantra (and fracking) has given American workers the largest tax cut in recent American history......and our economy is doing better because of the lower gas prices. Lower prices have done more for the American middle class consumer pocketbooks than the sky high DOW Wellendowed touts !

Obama should thank Sara Palin....oh the irony.....dimwit Democrats opposed drilling and fracking, they should thank their lucky stars!

Are you fucking nuts? Obama in his 6 years as POTUS produced more oil than Bush in his 8 years and Obama isn't a oil guy and Bush was an oil guy. Every economist has been on recording stating that "drill baby drill" is a myth and that if the USA was to drill in every spot in America they could find- it would be a drop in the bucket in terms of global and domestic prices. You can thank Obama for investing in alternative fuel sources which scares the shit out of the middle east- the most economical way to bring down oil produces is to not use the product or have a demand for the product.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Are you fucking nuts? Obama in his 6 years as POTUS produced more oil than Bush in his 8 years and Obama isn't a oil guy and Bush was an oil guy. Every economist has been on recording stating that "drill baby drill" is a myth and that if the USA was to drill in every spot in America they could find- it would be a drop in the bucket in terms of global and domestic prices. You can thank Obama for investing in alternative fuel sources which scares the shit out of the middle east- the most economical way to bring down oil produces is to not use the product or have a demand for the product.

Fuck man, could you be any more clueless?

Here is what they said in October:

http://fortune.com/2014/10/15/whats-...s-have-to-say/

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Are you fucking nuts? Obama in his 6 years as POTUS produced more oil than Bush in his 8 years and Obama isn't a oil guy and Bush was an oil guy. Every economist has been on recording stating that "drill baby drill" is a myth and that if the USA was to drill in every spot in America they could find- it would be a drop in the bucket in terms of global and domestic prices. You can thank Obama for investing in alternative fuel sources which scares the shit out of the middle east- the most economical way to bring down oil produces is to not use the product or have a demand for the product.

Ben Shapiro just called you a MAMALUKE...

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Are you fucking nuts? Obama in his 6 years as POTUS produced more oil than Bush in his 8 years and Obama isn't a oil guy and Bush was an oil guy. Every economist has been on recording stating that "drill baby drill" is a myth and that if the USA was to drill in every spot in America they could find- it would be a drop in the bucket in terms of global and domestic prices. You can thank Obama for investing in alternative fuel sources which scares the shit out of the middle east- the most economical way to bring down oil produces is to not use the product or have a demand for the product.

Sorry, WE. You just out-stupided LittleEva. And that is quite an accomplishment.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Obama in his 6 years as POTUS produced more oil than Bush in his 8 years ...

You can thank Obama for investing in alternative fuel sources ......

No thanks.

A list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:
1.Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
2.SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
3.Solyndra ($535 million)*
4.Beacon Power ($43 million)*
5.Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
6.SunPower ($1.2 billion)
7.First Solar ($1.46 billion)
8.Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
9.EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
10.Amonix ($5.9 million)
11.Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
12.Abound Solar ($400 million)*
13.A123 Systems ($279 million)*
14.Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
15.Johnson Controls ($299 million)
16.Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
17.ECOtality ($126.2 million)
18.Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
19.Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
20.Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
21.Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
22.Range Fuels ($80 million)*
23.Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
24.Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
25.Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
26.GreenVolts ($500,000)
27.Vestas ($50 million)
28.LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
29.Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
30.Navistar ($39 million)
31.Satcon ($3 million)*
32.Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
33.Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.
http://dailysignal.com/2012/10/18/pr...ergy-failures/

The "back story" of the government loan program is companies filed bankruptcy, cleansed themselves of private debt, and re-affirmed the government debt, so private lenders got screwed and the government funding (taxpayers' money) of the companies like Solyndra are "back in business.'

I can just imagine the Saudis are scared shitless over Obaminable's ponzi schemes.

[Whirlaway]

+1

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

Fuck man, could you be any more clueless?

Here is what they said in October:

http://fortune.com/2014/10/15/whats-...s-have-to-say/

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Sorry, WE. You just out-stupided LittleEva. And that is quite an accomplishment.