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Security Matters Personal security is of the utmost priority. Discussions regarding every aspect of personal security within the hobby can be found here.

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Old 01-11-2010, 12:40 AM   #31
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FYI, your IT will be able to look at the cache (stored history) from your web browser. Unless you can clean it up 100%. Netbook + Wireless Card = Keep Paycheck
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Old 01-11-2010, 02:21 AM   #32
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When I am in the office...I do just that. But, with all the LE activities and infiltration of ASPD....I've decided to keep me quite anonymous. I plan on being much more active here vs the ol' ASPD.
Seriously?

Does anyone here honestly believe that ECCIE is any more secure, any more under the radar, any more unknown to the authorities than ASPD?

Make it simple when you get ready to post - Anything and everything you post will be read by the authorities at any time they please. As long as you remember that, you are good to go.

As for private browsing, there are many options. Of course, any company based in the US, Canada, any EU country and most of the free world offers no real security due to internet crime treaties. For true security, you are going to have to do research and pay serious dollars - it's up to you to decide if its worth it.

And if your company uses a security client that takes screenshots, just wait until you get home or use a laptop.

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P.S. The other way to handle it would be to by a cheap laptop (Discountelectronics.com) strictly for the web, get a pre paid internet card (only pay in cash and go to a store far from home that you've never been to before). Well, then it could always be traced back to the satellite coordinates, but you're talking extreme measures.

Catch a theme here? Security is based on the risk you truly face. If someone actually wants to track you down (low probability unless you're the Governor of New York), they will. Otherwise, just be smart and have a good time.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:41 AM   #33
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While hideing your IP from IT is great, some of us providers use this as a screening tool when reciving emails and yes your smartphone has an IP address too. I prefer to look up your IP and cell #, then to ask you where you work, 2+ refs, favorite color, and first born (just sayn).
If your method of screening endagers someone's job, you should find a new way to screen. Your clients have to be able to pay you.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:15 AM   #34
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Wise words from many!!

This is the very thing I express to those whom contact me. *Do not browse my site/personal data on your work pc. NO way no how!** And for the love of pete. DO NOT contact the ladies via your work email. Have some sense of discretion!!
It amazes me how many men contact from work email with ALL their personal/work data included in the email. God forbid a lady/girl doesn't screen & gets busted and her computer seized.

If you don't utilize discretion 100% in this hobby. You shouldn't be in it!
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:08 AM   #35
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If your method of screening endagers someone's job, you should find a new way to screen. Your clients have to be able to pay you.
Hun I have never asked for employment information, when tracking emails, I look to see where you opened the email, how many times, for how long, did you forward it and if so where to. If you are stupid enough to hobby hunt at work you deserve what you get.
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If all you're trying to do is hide your tracks on your home pc or laptop, there's an easier way to do that. Just run a browser on a usb flash drive. Take a look at portableapps.com. Load Firefox on a usb stick and only use that browser. Just remove the USB stick when you walk away from the pc and all traces of activity go with it.

Another option is to use the incognito feature in the Google Chrome browser.

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My understanding is even using Chrome's incognito feature, data will still be stored in temp files?

I run Vbox and Chrome OS on a 4g USB drive. Chrome as a browser. I figure I can flush the stick if needed.

My question is, what about 'cloud' connecting? What gets stored on your physical drive(s)?
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:30 PM   #37
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I work for a systems mgmt software company. Believe me that any IT department can gain access to just about anything they want to monitor. If the IT department controls the firewall and responsible for anything that goes on your computer - including client monitoring agents......than you best be careful.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:57 AM   #38
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AGREED!!!!! Best not to use a work computer. They will know what you are doing.
Sorry, this may not be what you want to hear, but neveruse a work computer for anything but work. Somebody mentioned a cheap netbook computer and prepaid wireless. That's the way to go. It's still possibleto find the location you're browsing from, but it's more trouble than they'll go through unless you're combining the hobby with something really feloniously illegal.
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Old 01-20-2010, 12:46 PM   #39
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Seriously?

Does anyone here honestly believe that ECCIE is any more secure, any more under the radar, any more unknown to the authorities than ASPD?

Make it simple when you get ready to post - Anything and everything you post will be read by the authorities at any time they please. As long as you remember that, you are good to go.

As for private browsing, there are many options. Of course, any company based in the US, Canada, any EU country and most of the free world offers no real security due to internet crime treaties. For true security, you are going to have to do research and pay serious dollars - it's up to you to decide if its worth it.

And if your company uses a security client that takes screenshots, just wait until you get home or use a laptop.

ABT.

P.S. The other way to handle it would be to by a cheap laptop (Discountelectronics.com) strictly for the web, get a pre paid internet card (only pay in cash and go to a store far from home that you've never been to before). Well, then it could always be traced back to the satellite coordinates, but you're talking extreme measures.

Catch a theme here? Security is based on the risk you truly face. If someone actually wants to track you down (low probability unless you're the Governor of New York), they will. Otherwise, just be smart and have a good time.
Good advice here regarding personal security & posting from work.
Let me post about a different perspective of security.

Sadly, the greatest threat to security is the legal jurisdiction of the location of a site's server.
Local & National LE define what is illegal.

Most Mutual Assistance Treaties (MLATs) are for national security, narcotics, financial,tax etc crimes. The Global Cybercrime Treaty doesn't cover the Hobby yet either- unless child porn/trafficking is involved.

Assistance may be denied by either country (according to agreement details) for political or security reasons, or if the criminal offence in question is not equally punishable in both countries.
ie-See pg 3 Article 4, section 4 (a)(i)(ii)(iii) in the EU/MLAgreement (not Treaty yet)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...34:0042:EN:PDF


In such cases typically, Letters of Rogatory via the US Dept of State have to be transferred to local authorities, to secure the desired data.
MLATs do exist between the US, Canada, & the Netherlands under the guidelines above.
There is no MLAT with Germany as yet, although it is being negotiated.
These Treaties also typically take years for the US Senate to ratify, tho the Global Cybercrime Treaty was in 2006.

Relevant to P4P and Adult sites, the EU & Canada (to a lesser extent than EU) do not regard sexwork as a crime.

Presently, privacy laws are stronger in the EU than the US, where a prosecutor can fairly easily get an ISP, such as locally ThePlanet to cough up all the log records of IP addresses.
This is often without the board owners even knowing it.
Such willing cooperation is not likely from an EU server.
BTW look at your US host's AUS too.
The US is pushing hard to changed that, to impose its will, but as yet the EU Parliament resists.

This is why most well-informed adult sites have moved their servers offshore.

Rare-escorts.com (one of the “free” escort ad sites) which used to be on ev1/ThePlanet
and bigdoggie.net moved their servers to Peer1 in Vancouver, BC, Canada about a year ago.
P411, the treasure trove of info, is in Canada as well.
http://www.robtex.com/dns/preferred411.com.html
DIY Look them up! More sophisticated software is available to LE to identify pretty precisely who you are.

Theeroticreview.com servers are on telecity in the Netherlands,
ALL the Eros sites are also recently moved to the Netherlands.
Escort-site.com (another “free” escort service ad site) servers are located at LeaseWeb in Amsterdam.
Escortwww.com remains on thePlanet tho.

This means, for now, you can fairly safely post & communicate on these offshore sites.

I run a small adult board in the EU (not in English) and I would never think of hosting or locating in the US for legal safety reasons. Besides it's as cheap/cheaper in the EU with no discernible latency in loading.
Since I travel to the US often still, I never post reviews on US located servers. I will post on this board only from behind a proxy chain.

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This leaves, of course, horndogs on Comcast with its servers in full view somewhere in Richmond-Rosenberg at some poor schmuck's home or office.
And H2 (controlled by the former P Admin & Party Planner) on a server conveniently located in the Forest, Va area.
YMWV doesn't have to worry- it's just a silly twisted fuck board.
Ah well, they are Private Boards! Let us hope the hobby chain is stronger than those ASPD vouch weak links.

After what happened to TBD,& TER when they were in the US, and maybe P events yet to unfold, can anyone say stupid? lol

IMO Any US hobby board, even IF located overseas & particularly if local, should implement the Electronic Frontier Foundation's recommendations for the safety of it's Members.
Delineated here http://www.eff.org/wp/osp

Most important- No ASPD “Admin Control Freak” forever IP logs! Deuce, did you destroy them?

Store information for the minimum time necessary for operations.
Effectively obfuscate, aggregate and delete unneeded user information.
Maintain written policies addressing data collection and retention.
Enable SSL as much as possible throughout your site to secure users’ information and communications.


As Eccie grows inevitably into a target, just like TER, TBD, & the P you must be flexible about your server location.
Ask your crazy host, does he have an overseas location for his servers?
If so, or if he could get one, he could probably grow from his present 1 to 2% of the Internet. lol
If not move.
Please consider a nice long weekend holiday trip to Amsterdam, Frankfurt, or wherever you want soon. Should be tax deductible too.
And move the servers again if the laws change. Good Luck!
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:18 PM   #41
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For my understanding...

Are we talking about hobby hunting on a work computer or your work network?

Can the IT dept see everything I'm doing when I'm not connected to the work network?

I travel a lot for work and will occassionaly use my work computer (I typically delete history and files) when not connected to the work network. Am I at risk?
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For my understanding...

Are we talking about hobby hunting on a work computer or your work network?

Can the IT dept see everything I'm doing when I'm not connected to the work network?

I travel a lot for work and will occassionaly use my work computer (I typically delete history and files) when not connected to the work network. Am I at risk?
If they loaded the operating system on your computer. Or if they have had your computer and worked on it:

They could easily load monitoring software that will keep track of all the activity on your computer, no matter whether you're connected to the internet or not.

Whether they WILL load such software on your computer is anyone's guess.
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Trust me, I AM "Big Brother" and if you're on my network I can see anything I need to.

Not ONE of the measures mentioned here would have one bit of impact on my ability to trace and log all activity on any given user.

Your only hope is to use a wireless carrier outside the corporate network or better yet, wait till you get somewhere else. If you can't then the only suggestion I have is to become your IT Director's best friend in a hurry.

Tor with md5sum digest setup on your router would work, but as someone previously stated the exit node is the security breach...

Where there's a will there is a way!!!
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:55 AM   #44
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What if you are using a personal smart phone thats tied in to your company's email exchange via ActiveSync?

Can they see your web activities and other personal email acct activities?
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:24 PM   #45
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I have been experimenting with Tor lately but as of today eccie will not let me log on when it is enabled. Anyone having any similar issues? As of last night it worked just fine.

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