No Show With Ella The Elf

[guest010313]

I disagree.

I think that if one's behavior towards a provider is something that would be bothersome if it was your child then that behavior needs to be adjusted.

[guest010313]

And if the idea of your daughter in this business bothers you so much maybe you shouldn't support it.

[lacrew_2000]

"Would I be correct in that "rule?""

Yes. Inquiries are being made.

And for the record, the 'daughters' and 'children' people are discussing are 18 y/o children.

[lakecat]

What's wrong with saying "sorry, I screwed up. My reviews speak for themselves regarding my performance. OP, I will contact you immediately so I can make this right (why should he have to contact her, it was her bad). Lesson learned." Hopefully this happens, the OP posts that everything was handled in a professional manner, just a bad day for her and it's all over. Ella keeps her great reputation, OP is happy and life goes on. This is crazy that it has blown up to a 3 page pissing contest. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND MAKE IT RIGHT. Unfortunately Ella allowed this to spin out of control. Whether they like it or not, Eccie is a significant source of information for a lot of us and can't just be ignored.

[Jazzer]

Originally Posted by SillyGirl

And if the idea of your daughter in this business bothers you so much maybe you shouldn't support it.

True. I probably shouldn't.
Likewise, if you think the mere idea that some of your customer base desires more services than you wish to provide is bullshit, maybe you should be in another business.

Lilianna, I'm not quite sure how this thread turned so personal. I certainly have no axe to grind with you, or the Elves for that matter. However, I stand by my original comment that thegfegirls post that hobbyists "send your 18+ daughters to a local pimp so that they can be forced to cater to anyone and everyone" is inappropriate.

[incognito isis]

Who is this ella the elf?? I've seen tons of guys writing about her. Is she really an elf? She always blows guys off he he he

[guest010313]

Originally Posted by Jazzer

True. I probably shouldn't.
Likewise, if you think the mere idea that some of your customer base desires more services than you wish to provide is bullshit, maybe you should be in another business.

Lilianna, I'm not quite sure how this thread turned so personal. I certainly have no axe to grind with you, or the Elves for that matter. However, I stand by my original comment that thegfegirls post that hobbyists "send your 18+ daughters to a local pimp so that they can be forced to cater to anyone and everyone" is inappropriate.

It isn't personal. And their desire are not bullshit. They are allowed to desire anything they want. But the attitude that clients somehow "deserve" to have whatever they want is. Also, not talking about my customers, I choose to see only people with whom I have a great mental connection and if one of them tried to tell me that I needed to do something that I do not offer I would laugh, pat their head, and wish them well with the next girl.

This is a general issue and one that I have witnessed happening to quite a few women on this board. I'm sorry you think her comment was inappropriate. Dehumanizing sex workers is why it is so easy for sex traffickers to continue to be successful. If it bothers you that she mentioned daughters, inspect your conscience.

[jan-w]

When I started this thread, I really didn't expect it to affect so many people and unfortunately it has crossed over into other unrelated themes.

The Elves/Ella stated in their last response that after her cancellation text, I didn't respond and that is true. Really, what was there to say at that point? The appt. was cancelled and she suggested I might reschedule. I wanted time to think about the matter, which I did on the drive home.

Like every man here, I have had unfortunately too many NC/NS situations. After awhile, it gets tiresome. I think the men's reaction here shows their unhappiness and anger over it happening. To be fair, I know it happens to the ladies also and it's just as annoying for them as well.

I thought the best response I could make was to simply post the incident here and let the guys make their own judgement on whether to see the Elves. That is what this board is all about. I tried to make my OP as factual and non-emotional as possible. On each of my 1st 2 posts, I even wished Ella and the elves well here in KC.

I was somewhat taken aback at thegfegirls vitriolic responses. Talk about NOT the way to win friends and influence people.

BTW, nobody from the Elves, including Ella ever contacted me directly and privately after this matter was brought up. Certainly, if they had done so and tried to make amends, I would have come right here and made the situation known and as others have pointed out, they would have been heroes.

I noticed this thread on the national forum and I think it's a perfect blueprint on how to handle a sticky situation. Hopefully, we can all learn something from it:

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=189525

[Omahan]

[Jazzer]

Originally Posted by Omahan

Gimme' some of that popcorn.

I'm going to stop posting on this matter and ponder how this wasn't made personal when I've been told "...if the idea of your daughter in this business bothers you so much maybe you shouldn't support it" and to "inspect your conscience".

ponder ponder....
ponder...
crunch crunch...

[incognito isis]

I asked who this Ella is. Everytime I'm on Eccie one guy or another is getting blown off by her. I'm curious. She seems popular. But then again, maybe thats why shes blowing everyone off??

[Guest102513-1]

Oh please, since when does a client's "desire" for more service equal an "expectation" for add'l service. Small minded or closed minded people always have a problem with constructive criticism, because they are either too insecure or just plain don't understand what that term means. It's not bullshit, it's not a demand, it's not an expectation. Typically its a request...the answer NO is the appropriate respond when the other person does not wish to consider doing the request.

NO Provider should ever comprise her "comfort line" for any guy, under any circumstances. I'm sure there are creeps who would try to do that to a girl...but I strongly feel, there were no guys posting on this thread who meant or would do that to a provider. So if your going to preach...preach to a crowd that needs it!

The fact that I wouldn't want my daughter in the business, and therefore the logical conclusion is I should not be playing in the hobby...now that's bullshit!!!

A mature-minded provider knows this business is not for every gal. This in no way, demeans the providers who are able to thrive in the business. In fact, if one really thinks about it, it says ALOT of providers who do thrive in the business, and what makes up their solid character. Alot more I could say about that issue...but I'll pass. But I could not let that simplistic generalization pass, and I don't care how many solid reviews Silly has....come on guys, call BS when you see it!

On a much lighter note....why does that line from Pulp Fiction ring in my head.....and to just anticipate any type of response, this is TONGUE IN CHEEK

"Why do I find what comes out a girl's mouth (aka words) to be far more a turn-on than what goes into her month!".

[vitokc]

Originally Posted by Jazzer

Gimme' some of that popcorn.

I'm going to stop posting on this matter and ponder how this wasn't made personal when I've been told "...if the idea of your daughter in this business bothers you so much maybe you shouldn't support it" and to "inspect your conscience".

ponder ponder....
ponder...
crunch crunch...

Since it already has gotten personal, a simple response would be,
"because my daughter is not a ho so don't compare her to you".

If there is one thing women are experts on, it's how to piss off the guys.
They know what buttons to push, just where to pour the salt so it stings a little more. It's a hard battle to win gentlemen. Especially with ladies that just enjoy the hell out of stirring the pot and keeping it boiling even after its cooked.

[Guest102513-1]

Hey Vito...seems like we were posting the same thoughts at the same time...

Guess brilliant minds (tongue in check) not only think the same, but at the same time.....

Nice to see that I'm not the only one in the silent majority willing to speak out!!!

[Modda]

Originally Posted by vitokc

Since it already has gotten personal, a simple response would be,
"because my daughter is not a ho so don't compare her to you".