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1blackman1 · 01-06-2021, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

My point is that did the media actually try to give people who might think those things reassurance by providing some kind of research into how the election was conducted properly, or did they just tell everyone to shut up, or like you, label them an idiot.

How did you expect the media to prove a negative? They said over and over (except on right wing media) there was no fraud. Why should it have been the media’s responsibility to disprove a fake rumor.

You’re pretty stupid.

Old-T · 01-06-2021, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Um, yeah. Republicans watched votes being counted. Every court said the election was fair. How the fuck can you completely stage an election?

I was a poll worker this year for 3 weeks of early voting, and election day. I left with great respect for the workers there, Dem, Rep, and Ind. If you didn't see their party affiliation on their badge you would not be able to tell it unless they told you after the doors were closed. Good people, every one.

I saw a handful (5) cases of ATTEMPTED fraud out of about 13000 who voted at my site.

All 5 were Trump zealots. 4 were people who drove from a neighboring state, one brought his wife who suffered from what seemed to be significant Alzheimer's. He wanted a second ballot so "she" could vote for Trump, even though she kept saying she was confused and didn't want to vote. He finally demanded a second ballot so he could fill it out for her but without her.

None of the 5 voted at that location--they were all turned away.

Strokey_McDingDong · 01-06-2021, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

How did you expect the media to prove a negative? They said over and over (except on right wing media) there was no fraud. Why should it have been the media’s responsibility to disprove a fake rumor.

I'm not talking about proving a negative. I'm talking about reassuring the public that the election was not fraudulent by researching into the matter and demonstrating that it likely was not.

Nobody did that. They just said it's not fraudulent and censored anyone who said otherwise. Is that not suspicious?

Like, where did that giant spike that was 96% Biden come from? Isn't that a little bit strange? Why would it be dumb to talk about or question where that giant spike came from? Was that ever explained at all?

I'm not talking about proving that the election was not fraudulent, but reassuring the people that it was not fraudulent by doing more than censoring people and telling them to shut up.

eccieuser9500 · 01-06-2021, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

I'm not talking about proving a negative. I'm talking about reassuring the public that the election was not fraudulent by researching into the matter and demonstrating that it likely was not.

Nobody did that. They just said it's not fraudulent and censored anyone who said otherwise. Is that not suspicious?

Like, where did that giant spike that was 96% Biden come from? Isn't that a little bit strange? Why would it be dumb to talk about or question where that giant spike came from? Was that ever explained at all?

I'm not talking about proving that the election was not fraudulent, but reassuring the people that it was not fraudulent by doing more than censoring people and telling them to shut up.

You shut up. Take it up with the Supreme Court. How's that for censorship? Respect the rule of law. But you just say "fuck this, and fuck that and fuck the other." So just shut up.

"Specific allegations . . .

. . . and then proof."

Strokey_McDingDong · 01-07-2021, 12:01 AM

The media should respond to the allegations, because I'm left wondering about the spike. Who wouldn't be?

eccieuser9500 · 01-07-2021, 12:11 AM

The president's lawyers should be able to help you. Now you want the media to do their work because they didn't bring the evidence? Nobody has to prove something isn't. You have to prove something is! God DAMN!

eccieuser9500 · 01-07-2021, 12:19 AM

Strokey_McDingDong · 01-07-2021, 12:25 AM

I'm not talking about proving a negative. I'm talking about making an effort to assure people that the election was valid by doing more than simply saying it was and censoring everyone who says it wasn't.

To me, simply saying it was legit and telling everyone else to shut up is not very assuring, especially when there are groups of people very passionate about their belief that it was not legit.

If a significant percentage of people actually believe the election was fraudulent, the media has some responsibility to at least attempt to assure them that it wasn't in a legitimate way.

eccieuser9500 · 01-07-2021, 12:31 AM

The president's lawyers don't care about his supporters passion. They care about their license to practice law. The law! Remember that?

I can keep going because I am the King of Bullshit here. Not you.

Strokey_McDingDong · 01-07-2021, 12:32 AM

I'm not talking about lawyers ... you're just being difficult.

Lucas McCain · 01-07-2021, 12:33 AM

The love for Trump is hysterical to me. His cult loves him, but he could not give a flying fuck about you. He only care about himself. If you love someone, make sure they love you back at the very least. He looks at you clowns as complete trash and beneath him. You worship that complete scumbag? A man with absolutely no empathy is worth worshipping to you people?

Take a step back and look at what this fucking fool is trying to do to democracy for his own gain. Are you people who support him really this fucking stupid? How much of a dipshit do you have to be to try to change the election and sue states and dismiss the constitution?

eccieuser9500 · 01-07-2021, 12:34 AM

The media would look stupid if the SCOTUS gives them the Gertrude Stein treatment.

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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

I'm not talking about proving a negative. I'm talking about making an effort to assure people that the election was valid by doing more than simply saying it was and censoring everyone who says it wasn't.

To me, simply saying it was legit and telling everyone else to shut up is not very assuring, especially when there are groups of people very passionate about their belief that it was not legit.

If a significant percentage of people actually believe the election was fraudulent, the media has some responsibility to at least attempt to assure them that it wasn't in a legitimate way.

eccieuser9500 · 01-07-2021, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

I'm not talking about lawyers ... you're just being difficult.

I know.

Strokey_McDingDong · 01-07-2021, 12:41 AM

I seriously am wondering about the weird Biden spikes. What is up with them? One of those supposedly appeared during the senate election in Georgia, too. I have H I M and others telling me that that is evidence of voter fraud. The mainstream media will just say shut up and accept the results. So, what am I to believe? I am stuck wondering about the spikes with no real answers coming from the media.

eccieuser9500 · 01-07-2021, 12:46 AM

Why Gertrude Stein’s ‘No There There’ Is Everywhere

The saying has influenced talk on Capitol Hill—and a sculpture in California

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-ger...ere-1517589198

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How do you diminish a claim as insubstantial or meritless these days? One popular turn of phrase—now bordering on a cliché—borrows from the writer Gertrude Stein: “There is no there there.”