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Old 11-03-2017, 12:03 AM   #31
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I'm no more defending the bike killer any more than you were the Las Vegas shooter.

Are you wanting to outlaw trucks?...ID's? .... Bikes?

Tell us your solution Counselor.
Do you even know what you mean? Gawd you're an idiot.
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Old 11-04-2017, 07:09 AM   #32
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True dat. BUT i do feeel the visa program needs to end.
Not arguing with you but my question to you is "Why?".

Trump's Merit Based immigration plan:


" Merit-based immigration would give preference to non-citizens with high-paying job offers, past successes, English-language skills and education. All of those would be considered under the proposed green card system. "

How many of our ancestors who came to this country would qualify under such a system? Not my grandfather who came here jobless with little education and probably spoke no English. And led a very successful life.

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Old 11-04-2017, 09:46 AM   #33
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How many of our ancestors who came to this country would qualify under such a system? Not my grandfather who came here jobless with little education and probably spoke no English. And led a very successful life.

don't get your panties in a wad over the fact that your ancestors wouldn't qualify under the proposed merit system.

times change. the system was long over due for an update on immigration policy. a new policy is needed for the current situation. old one is not working and is harmful in unintended ways.

what was true in the past is not true today. the economy of yesteryear is very different of the economy of today. that is the current reality.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:06 AM   #34
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Default Benjamin Franklin's assessment of the felonious minded immigrant: they are serpents.

From Virginia we hear, that six Convicts, who were transported for fourteen Years, and shipp’d at Liverpool, rose at Sea, shot the Captain, overcame and confin’d the Seamen, and kept Possession of the Vessel 19 Days; that coming in Sight of Cape Hatteras, they hoisted out the Boat to go on shore; when a Vessel passing by, a Boy they had not confin’d, hail’d her, and attempted to tell their Condition, but was prevented; and then the Villains drove a Spike up thro’ his under and upper Jaws, and wound Spunyarn round the End that came out near his Nose, to prevent his getting it out: They then cut away the Sails from the Yards, left the Ship, and went ashore. But a New-England Sloop coming by soon after, and seeing a Ship driving in the Sea in that Manner, boarded her, found Things as above mentioned, and carried her into North-Carolina; from whence a Hue and Cry went after the Villains, who had stroll’d along to Virginia; they were taken at Norfolk, and one of them confess’d the Fact; upon which they were order’d up, about two Weeks since, to Williamsburgh, for Trial as Pyrates.

From Maryland we hear, that a Convict Servant, about three Weeks since, went into his Master’s House, with an Ax in his Hand, determin’d to kill his Mistress; but changing his Purpose on seeing, as he expressed it, how d —— d innocent she look’d, he laid his Left-hand on a Block, cut it off, and threw it at her, saying, Now make me work, if you can.

N. B. ‘Tis said this desperate Villain is now begging in Pennsylvania, and ’tis thought has been seen in this City; he pretends to have lost his Hand by an Accident: The Publick are therefore caution’d to beware of him.

From Bucks County we hear, that a Convict Servant, one John McCaulefd, imported here last Fall, has broke open and robb’d several Houses, of Goods to a considerable Value; but being apprehended at a Ferry, is committed to Prison.

Yesterday the Trial of Samuel Saunders, for the Murder of Simon Girtie, came on at the Supream Court, when the Jury return’d their Verdict Manslaughter.

“When we see our Papers fill’d continually with Accounts of the most audacious Robberies, the most cruel Murders, and infinite other Villainies perpetrated by Convicts transported from Europe, what melancholly, what terrible Reflections must it occasion! What will become of our Posterity! — These are some of thy Favours, BRITAIN! Thou art called our MOTHER COUNTRY; but what good Mother ever sent Thieves and Villains to accompany her Children; to corrupt some with their infectious Vices, and murder the rest? What Father ever endeavour’d to spread the Plague in his Family! — We do not ask Fish, but thou givest us Serpents, and worse than Serpents! — In what can Britain show a more Sovereign Contempt for us, than by emptying their Jails into our Settlements; unless they would likewise empty their Jakes on our Tables? — What must we think of that B —– d, which has advis’d the Repeal of every Law we have hitherto made to prevent this Deluge of Wickedness overwhelming us; and with this cruel Sarcasm, That these Laws were against the Publick Utility, for they tended to prevent the IMPROVEMENT and WELL-PEOPLING of the Colonies! — And what must we think of those Merchants, who for the sake of a little paltry Gain, will be concern’d in importing and disposing of these abominable Cargoes?”

The Pennsylvania Gazette, April 11, 1751
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Old 11-05-2017, 02:00 AM   #35
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How many of our ancestors who came to this country would qualify under such a system? Not my grandfather who came here jobless with little education and probably spoke no English. And led a very successful life.

When did your ancestors come? 1700s? 1800s??
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