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Gotta wonder who would want to walk over 1,000 miles to become the object of so many’s hatred. 
			
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I agree - so why don't you get in a helicopter, fly over to the caravan, and tell them that the US is filled with a bunch of white, hateful racist motherfuckers.
 
Also, tell them that they suppress wages and are only going to do shitty jobs that Americans wouldn't do for the shitty pay with no benefits the  Americans that they work for will pay, in most cases.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2018, 04:05 PM
			
			
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Also, tell them that they suppress wages and are only going to do shitty jobs that Americans wouldn't do for the shitty pay with no benefits the  Americans that they work for will pay, in most cases. 
			
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So you believe in a living minimum wage?
 
You do know that limiting the labor supply has the same effect as raising the minimum wage?
 
Neither are free market principles,  you're bright enough to know that right?
 
I have you in the bright guy category.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2018, 04:15 PM
			
			
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				I agree - so why don't you get in a helicopter, fly over to the caravan, and tell them that the US is filled with a bunch of white, hateful racist motherfuckers. 
 
Also, tell them that they suppress wages and are only going to do shitty jobs that Americans wouldn't do for the shitty pay with no benefits the  Americans that they work for will pay, in most cases. 
			
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You should hire a smart lawyer and make that happen.
 
Know any?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 07:31 AM
			
			
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				So you believe in a living minimum wage? 
 
You do know that limiting the labor supply has the same effect as raising the minimum wage? 
 
Neither are free market principles,  you're bright enough to know that right? 
 
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Yes I believe in a living wage and I know suppressing the supply of labor raises wages. I would say that perfectly follows free market theory, but a guy in my local bar told me that Adam Smith specifically stated that he opposed third world immigration of unskilled poor people, owing to the wealth suppression of the entire class of native poor people. So in that respect I think we can agree free market principles remain intact.
 
That is exactly what I want to happen.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 07:34 AM
			
			
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				You should hire a smart lawyer and make that happen. 
 
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Racehorse Haynes?
 
That guy was really smart, but his pre existing condition has done him in.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 08:57 AM
			
			
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				, but a guy in my local bar told me that Adam Smith specifically stated that he opposed third world immigration of unskilled poor people, 
			
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Was it a gay bar? Regardless your friend got Adam Smith wrong...may I suggest you read the following link.
 https://cei.org/blog/adam-smiths-rec...al-immigration
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			10-31-2018, 09:29 AM
			
			
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				Racehorse Haynes? 
 
That guy was really smart, but his pre existing condition has done him in. 
			
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His "smartness" was in case selection. ("Pick your battles"!)
 
He allowed his subordinates to handle the culls.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 01:04 PM
			
			
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				His "smartness" was in case selection. ("Pick your battles"!) 
 
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Smart strategy - why take on the loser cases?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 01:19 PM
			
			
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				Smart strategy - why take on the loser cases? 
			
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"If one has lemons, make lemonade"!
 
The delicious wins are the ones no one believes you will win.
 
Ask Mr. Trump!!!!! He's batting 1,000 in the "World Series" of politics.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 01:21 PM
			
			
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  Adam Smith "pre-existed" the 16th Amendment and the New Deal.  Adam Smith knew nothing of a New Deal, post 16th Amendment society; hence, trying to apply his advice to a modern, social welfare society is trying to assemble a 2018 piece puzzle with 1776 pieces: it's an incomplete picture which reveals several holes in the argument.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 01:39 PM
			
			
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				Adam Smith knew nothing of a New Deal, post 16th Amendment society; hence, trying to apply his advice to a modern, social welfare society is trying to assemble a 2018 piece puzzle with 1776 pieces: it's an incomplete picture which reveals several holes in the argument.    
			
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I did not bring Adam Smith up , I just correct FF false narrative that his bar buddy had of him.
 
Personally, I'd trade 10 posters in this forum for one hard-working Honduran.  
We make enough swaps of our old white men for some young hard workers coming from central america we actually could MAGA!  
Hell I'd swap ff for a good goat and laying hen.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 01:56 PM
			
			
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				I did not bring Adam Smith up , I just correct FF false narrative that his bar buddy had of him. 
Personally, I'd trade 10 posters in this forum for one hard-working Honduran.  
We make enough swaps of our old white men for some young hard workers coming from central america we actually could MAGA!  
Hell I'd swap ff for a good goat and laying hen.  
			
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Your denial is invalid. You might want to check the title of the article you cited.  
 
America can't be made great again by people who refuse to assimilate; export money and its associated tax revenue; and bear allegiance to the laws and policies of other countries over those instituted in this country.   
 
The old, white men who defended this country "pre-existed" those who seek to benefit from the sacrifices made by those old, white men. It's the old, white men who deserve to reap the reward of their labor and sacrifice; not the gate-crashing, bomb-throwing, poison-peddling malefactors from third world countries.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 02:09 PM
			
			
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				Your denial is invalid. You might want to check the title of the article you cited.  
 
America can't be made great again by people who refuse to assimilate; export money and its associated tax revenue; and bear allegiance to the laws and policies of other countries over those instituted in this country.   
 
The old, white men who defended this country "pre-existed" those who seek to benefit from the sacrifices made by those old, white men. It's the old, white men who deserve to reap the reward of their labor and sacrifice; not the gate-crashing, bomb-throwing, poison-peddling malefactors from third world countries.  
 
			
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Those old white men could make this country great by offing themselves and freeing up that money that would go to keep them on a ventilator to pay down the military debt they didn't pay for.
 
To sum up...they didn't pay enought into SS or Medicare and no where near enough in taxes to pay for the military they bought.
 
Fuck'em, give me some productive harf working Mexicans 
 
Die already is my motto.
 
MAGA, die already!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-31-2018, 02:11 PM
			
			
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			Yeah, IBH, let’s hear it for the PAST!  
 
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			10-31-2018, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				Maybe your friend is worrying about the wrong thing vis a vis vaccinations.   
 
But we ought to require immigrants be vaccinated in order to gain entrance to the country.  If they’re not vaccinated, we should vaccinate them. I would not have a problem with that.  
 
 Is that what you’re talking g about LL?  Kinda hard to extract an actual topic from your post. 
			
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FYI - YR - The US government requires vaccination for immigrants - and has for years.  You are right that immigrants should be vaccinated to prevent the spread of disease in the US. 
 
Please see CDC web site for a detailed outline of required vaccinations for immigrants.  It is extensive.  A short version from the site below:  
 What vaccines are required for U.S. immigration?
 At this time,* vaccines for these diseases are currently required for U.S. immigration:  - Mumps
 
- Measles
 
- Rubella
 
- Polio
 
- Tetanus and diphtheria
 
- Pertussis
 
-  Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib)
 
- Hepatitis A
 
- Hepatitis B
 
- Rotavirus
 
- Meningococcal disease
 
- Varicella
 
- Pneumococcal disease
 
- Seasonal influenza
 
 Immigration and public health is a complex problem. 
And NO- vaccines do not cause autism.  Completely discredited. 
 In reference to a comment in this thread - not one of your comments, YR 
I am qualified to comment on this matter.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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