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Old 12-11-2020, 07:21 AM   #31
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IDK... from what I'm seeing with MSM's take on Biden family, He may not last 3 months.


why now of all time to do this??


this is a strange move, if they're going to get rid of biden, do it after he's president.


something must've forced the media's hand on this.
At the very worst it will turn out like Flynn.

My guess nothing will come of this....oh he might pay some back taxes. Blame it on his tax attorneys.

But there is always the pardon pin now.

I actually love that this came up.

Be interesting now if Trump pardons his family and tries to get himself pardoned.

And Barf was right not to let this investigation leak before the election.

The FBI director should have been fired for leaking the investigation of Clinton right before the election...instead of for investigating that crooked Flynn.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:35 AM   #32
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Yes, the Trump family is renowned for getting money from Chinese investors, in exchange for the visa available under the investor visa program. That is just one of their many ways.


Somehow, almost every state that Trump lost managed to conduct a fraudulent election process....according to Trump. But the states that Trump won, they don't seem to have any problems at all.
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Old 12-11-2020, 11:52 AM   #33
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If the election was rigged against a sitting president, someone explain to me who did that and how they did that. Impressive.

I guess "Impressive" is one way to look at if if one doesn't care at all that it may have happened because the MSM and the Tech giants, conspired to keep reports of Hunter and James Biden out of the news for fear it would hurt Joe in the election.


Since you seem to be sincerely uninformed as to how this may have happened, I'll enlighten you on the current theory becoming more and more prevalent everyday.


"Laptop"? "What Laptop?



For months before the election, the New York Post and Fox News were reporting, excuse me, continued reporting on the fact that there was a laptop owned by Hunter Biden, it had been seized by the FBI and it was assumed that they were investigating any illegalities, associated with Hunter Biden's financial dealings with foreign entities and any tax laws that may have been broken say like Paul Manafort!.


Democrats like Adam Schitt for brains, were telling us it was all "Russian dis-information". Two of our former "Intelligence" chiefs, said the story, that Hunter Biden was being investigated by the FBI, "had all the hallmarks and trappings of "Russian disinformation"?


See a theme developing here?


But then it took a turn that has many Americans reeling in the scope of the conspiracy to protect Joe Biden at any and all cost including giving up journalistic ethics.


Google, Facebook and Twitter, decided that this well sourced story about the problems Hunter Biden was facing, could not be written or even spoken about in their media, on their platforms, without serious repercussions including being banned.


That was before the election. "Nothing to see here and if you say it, we will ban you". Now mind you that didn't apply to Eric Trump under going hours of interrogation about his dealings, no, that was perfectly fine to speculate that if he was being questioned than he must be guilty of something. No problem reporting that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg55KeVutKo


But which MSM decided to report on Hunter Biden's impeding legal problems before the election? That would be none if you don't count New York Post and Fox News.


Now that the election is over, we are informed not only is Hunter Biden and possibly James Biden, brother of Joe, under criminal investigation but that this was started in 2018.


Now of course none of this means the investigation will turn up anything of an illegal nature but we didn't know that with regard to the Trump children, all of whom have been investigated and reported on without proof of illegal activity.


So why was Hunter any different. I think we got the answer to that when someone at the DOJ said they didn't want to comment on Hunter "prior to the election".


So, reporting on Trump kids, OK, reporting on the Biden family, that will have to wait till after the election.


Back to my headline, "Laptop, what Laptop"?


It is being reported that possibly ( more than probably ) millions of Americans when asked if Hunter Bidens laptop influenced their decision on election day, responded with "Laptop, what laptop"?


Anybody here that watches CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC see and hear any stories about Hunters laptop other than it was just all Russian disinformation and rejected as a legitimate news story?



Cause you see, anybody not reading the New York Post or watching Fox News, was completely unaware of any story about Hunter Biden's laptop. It was FORBIDDEN to even be talked about and you could be punished ( some were ) for speaking of it.


So is that "rigging" an election? A conspiracy involving more than one person or entity from allowing their readers from even hearing about a story before the election that could hurt Joe Biden?


Then of course the question will be asked, "what does Hunter's alleged problems, have to do with Joe Biden"? Joe Biden's statement, that he had no knowledge of Hunter's business dealings will more than likely be revealed in any through investigation of Hunter. And then along comes a third party in Bobulinski, to confirm that Joe Biden not only knew about Hunter's business dealings, he had final approval of everything Hunter was doing and possibly even benefited financially from such deals. Allegedly!



We can't put much store in polls any more but some polling has as many as 9% of those that voted for Biden, saying they might have voted differently had they been told about Hunter's laptop and the Bobulinski interview by Tucker Carlson on Fox News, the only interview of Bobulinski. Let's see if that continues now that Joe has been elected.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambr...h=380b2e2e6fc6


You Haven’t Heard More About Hunter Biden’s Emails Because Twitter And Facebook Didn’t Want You To



Read all about Hunter Biden’s emails yet? About the election-rocking scandal that ties Biden to corruption in Ukraine? Seen the photo of an unshaven Hunter, half-ashed cigarette daggling from his lips, just one piece of damning evidence taken from a laptop once belonging to the vice president’s son that two top Trump advisors turned over to a pair of crusading New York Post journalists?
Some of you are following along and have read the story published by the Post yesterday that contained these accusations about Biden and Ukraine. For others, it kinda rings a bell. And for still many, many more, the story doesn’t sound familiar at all, and probably seems more like a plot found at the bottom of Tom Clancy’s wastepaper basket.
These circumstances are created in no small part by a set of extraordinary actions taken yesterday by Facebook and Twitter to prevent the Post’s investigation from being widely shared.

Twitter blocked users from sharing the URL to the Post’s story and locked some users out of accounts for doing that, including high-profile ones belonging to the Post itself and White House spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany. On Facebook’s end, company spokesman Andy Stone said the social network was “reducing its distribution on our platform” without further clarifying precisely what Facebook did.
“The decisions by Facebook and Twitter to limit the distribution of the New York Post story...are unprecedented for these companies,” says Marcus Messner, director at Virginia Commonwealth University’s Richard T. Robertson School of Media and Culture. “The companies took the responsibility to hit the brakes.”
It absolutely worked. The story didn’t get whizzed to every last corner of the web, quite a wonder in this age of viral information and all the attention put on a different set of emails during the 2016 presidential election.


So, would a conspiracy between the Democrat party, MSM and Tech platforms to hold back any stories about the Biden family be considered "rigging" an election"? You mean to tell me that the New York Times and Washington Post, CNN and MSNBC, with all the leaks they were getting, weren't informed in 2018 that the FBI was investigating Hunter Biden? And held off on reporting it for fear of hurting the chances of Joe beating Trump?



You decide, but before you do, give this story some time and see if you feel any differently if Hunter and James get indicted and it looks like, if not proven, that Joe Biden knew all about what Hunter was doing and facilitated it like taking Hunter on Air Force two to China where Hunter made alleged deals with members of the Chinese Communist Party.


As to the other definition of "rigged", it is clear to me that in many states, especially those named in the Texas lawsuit, that persons unauthorized to change election rules just before the election, did so hoping to benefit Joe Biden. The mind blowing aspect of this is that many of those states had Republican controlled Legislatures and Republican Governor's for pete's sake. So yeah, that is impressive on the part of democrats I guess.


The Texas lawsuit is given a quadrillion to one chance of winning it is said because the SC of the US is unlikely to tell one state that they can sue another state for changing their election laws since every state has the legal right to change their laws as long as they don't violate the US Constitution.


But here is the rub. Did the Legislature of these states in question make these changes as required by their own state constitutions or were un-authorized persons like city council members or election officials making these changes like how signatures would be checked for example.


As I see the case, you would be right to say that states can't be telling other states what laws their LEGISLATURE can enact regarding elections but they can point out that the LEGISLATURE was not the one who made these last minute rule changes therefore violating their own election laws and harming other states that played by the rules.


I happen to think that this is definitely something the SC should consider and I also think the case will fail because the SC doesn't want to look like they are deciding who the President should be, AGAIN. John Roberts cough, cough.



But this is fun to think about. If Texas should prevail, it is entirely possible that those states found to have violated their own election laws passed by their own Legislature, could make the final decision on who their electors would vote for and theoretically of course, if those states are controlled by Republicans, they will vote for Trump and against Joe Biden, making Trump the President and not Biden.


I don't see that happening as much as I would like to see it happen
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Old 12-11-2020, 01:09 PM   #34
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You're a God damn imbecile if you haven't heard about this bef6the election.

It has nothing to do with JOE BIDEN.

Besides...all Biden has to do is pardon Biden.
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Old 12-11-2020, 01:11 PM   #35
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I heard one talking head on Fox, confirm that the MSM is reporting on the Hunter Biden story. CBS, NBC and ABC dedicated 30 seconds each to the story since the Biden election campaign took the unusual step of announcing in their publication usually dedicated to the policies Biden would be pursuing, took the time to announce that yes, Hunter Biden was the target of a criminal investigation stated back in 2018.

End of story.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son.


More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.

The letter, signed on Monday, centers around a batch of documents released by the New York Post last week that purport to tie the Democratic nominee to his son Hunter’s business dealings. Under the banner headline “Biden Secret E-mails,” the Post reported it was given a copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive by President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who said he got it from a Mac shop owner in Delaware who also alerted the FBI.

While the letter’s signatories presented no new evidence, they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work.


“If we are right,” they added, “this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.”
Nick Shapiro, a former top aide under CIA director John Brennan, provided POLITICO with the letter on Monday. He noted that “the IC leaders who have signed this letter worked for the past four presidents, including Trump. The real power here however is the number of former, working-level IC officers who want the American people to know that once again the Russians are interfering."


Do you think we will see a letter with all 50 people admitting they were wrong? Don't bet on it.



Well, that can't be to re-assuring that so many Intelligence people got this story wrong. Add to that, these same people got the Russia/ Trump so called conspiracy story wrong. For more than 4 years, the majority of our media either got all this wrong or it was itself a conspiracy to keep Trump from being elected and when he was, to discredit, to de-legitimize his Presidency, the same thing they are saying Republicans are doing to Biden. Karma is a bitch.
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Old 12-11-2020, 05:30 PM   #36
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Somehow, almost every state that Trump lost managed to conduct a fraudulent election process....according to Trump. But the states that Trump won, they don't seem to have any problems at all.
The states H I M is investigating all took a really long time to finish counting and then miraculously flipped, which was weird. I'm not saying it was staged, but all those states were the slow pokes that started receiving these influxes of Biden votes when everyone else finished counting.
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The states H I M is investigating all took a really long time to finish counting and then miraculously flipped, which was weird. I'm not saying it was staged, but all those states were the slow pokes that started receiving these influxes of Biden votes when everyone else finished counting.
Everyone with a brain knew this was going to happen. The majority of mail in ballots were turned in by Democrats. Those were counted last Einstein.
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Old 12-11-2020, 08:18 PM   #38
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It was in the cards, Sir!

When the 25th Amendment action begins the current PR campaign will pay dividends with the deceived voters, because it will be more palatable to remove a crook from office, who can't even play with a dog without breaking his foot!

That's why PissLousy is beginning to go to bat for even those who fraternize with Chinese spies and serve on her "intelligence committee"! She's familiar with the "impeachment process"! The 25th will be easier. And needs the votes.

If the 25th Amendment wasn't incurred on this current president, why the fuck should it apply to the incoming president? No dividends at all. Will it even be played? There is no wild card at all. Dumbass.



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I heard one talking head on Fox, confirm that the MSM is reporting on the Hunter Biden story. CBS, NBC and ABC dedicated 30 seconds each to the story since the Biden election campaign took the unusual step of announcing in their publication usually dedicated to the policies Biden would be pursuing, took the time to announce that yes, Hunter Biden was the target of a criminal investigation stated back in 2018.

End of story.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son.


More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.

The letter, signed on Monday, centers around a batch of documents released by the New York Post last week that purport to tie the Democratic nominee to his son Hunter’s business dealings. Under the banner headline “Biden Secret E-mails,” the Post reported it was given a copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive by President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who said he got it from a Mac shop owner in Delaware who also alerted the FBI.

While the letter’s signatories presented no new evidence, they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work.


“If we are right,” they added, “this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.”
Nick Shapiro, a former top aide under CIA director John Brennan, provided POLITICO with the letter on Monday. He noted that “the IC leaders who have signed this letter worked for the past four presidents, including Trump. The real power here however is the number of former, working-level IC officers who want the American people to know that once again the Russians are interfering."


Do you think we will see a letter with all 50 people admitting they were wrong? Don't bet on it.



Well, that can't be to re-assuring that so many Intelligence people got this story wrong. Add to that, these same people got the Russia/ Trump so called conspiracy story wrong. For more than 4 years, the majority of our media either got all this wrong or it was itself a conspiracy to keep Trump from being elected and when he was, to discredit, to de-legitimize his Presidency, the same thing they are saying Republicans are doing to Biden. Karma is a bitch.

Jesus Christ, man! Get the fuck out of your fuckin' FOX hole. I think I can speak for everybody here, that - when you start your post with your first sentence as such, you are given no credit at all. But so be it. You are our resident FOX hound.

Play it up. Be the dumbass cretin living in your own little bubble universe serving your self. I haven't read anything you have written even though I used to enjoy your writing when you first joined our club. You just couldn't take my sense and sensibility.

I hope you read this. For the others, please quote me so this dumbass may read what I write.















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If the 25th Amendment wasn't incurred on this current president, why the fuck should it apply to the incoming president? No dividends at all. Will it even be played? There is no wild card at all. Dumbass.






Jesus Christ, man! Get the fuck out of your fuckin' FOX hole. I think I can speak for everybody here, that - when you start your post with your first sentence as such, you are given no credit at all. But so be it. You are our resident FOX hound.

Play it up. Be the dumbass cretin living in your own little bubble universe serving your self. I haven't read anything you have written even though I used to enjoy your writing when you first joined our club. You just couldn't take my sense and sensibility.

I hope you read this. For the others, please quote me so this dumbass may read what I write.















You must be an avid msnbc madcow follower! It shows!
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And the former Israeli head of space security revealed that aliens have been living among us, have colonies on Mars, and have agreements with the government not to reveal themselves.



Why weren't we told about this earlier ? At least before the election.
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Simple really Plan B , he's gonna be "removed one way or the other

And you were told before , NYP , and fox problem no one was listening
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And the former Israeli head of space security revealed that aliens have been living among us, have colonies on Mars, and have agreements with the government not to reveal themselves.



Why weren't we told about this earlier ? At least before the election.
















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And the former Israeli head of space security revealed that aliens have been living among us, have colonies on Mars, and have agreements with the government not to reveal themselves.

Why weren't we told about this earlier ? At least before the election.

doubtful that he actually said this. his words were probably taken out of context plus the Israeli site that made this news were known for "sensationalizing" comments.
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Biden stole the election ??

He kicked Trump's ass by over 7 million votes !!

Trump got beat almost as bad as McCain got beat by Obama (10 million votes)

Romney did way better than Trump (only 3 million votes by Obama)

Stole the election ; What a fucking joke.
Yes, Biden (actually his handlers) stole the election. A slender majority of the American people believe so and you can't argue with the majority right? Why turn on Biden now? So they can do the most radical things imaginable, shit-can Biden, and blame him for the fall out. They won't change much back but then they can put a real failed candidate in the Oval Office to use as a figure head for their other intents.

What you're actually saying is that Biden beat Obama by millions of votes...that is what you're saying. Notice how crazy that sounds? A young, charismatic black man lost to a senile, racist, white asshole. Face it democrats, you got played, you got played big time and from here on out, whatever happens is your fault and your judgement is absolute shit. Don't offer an opinion, no one cares what you think.
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