Trump Signed Law That Could Get Him 5 Years In Prison For Mishandling Classified Docs

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

And let me ask you a question- how would anyone know if a document was classified or declassified without it being notated as such. In fact, these might have been targeted to be declassified, but nobody disputes that that's what happens to docs that are declassifed.

When the bureaucrats get around to carrying out the President's orders, that is what happens. Alas as we know, there is a deep state full of unelected and unaccountable libtard bureaucrats who often did not carry out their duties properly due to their irrational hatred of Trump

But you don't need some bureaucrat to stamp a document declassified to make it so if the President orders it declassified. It becomes declassified when the President makes the order.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

What else does a mob marching in the capitol building changing 'Hang Mike Pence' mean?


They wanted to prevent the VP from certifying the election, to keep their TrumpTurd in office.



Sounds a lot like trying to overthrow the government to me.

Try to keep up - people can chant whatever they want. But chanting means jack shit.

Tell us - exactly how was this group of mainly unarmed tourists going to overthrow the most militarized country in the world? Be specific. I will wait

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

"Hang Mike Pence" doesn't imply they are going to use firearms or knives, but they are going to use a rope and old reliable gravity.

Lol u certainly are grasping for straws sir. So a poster equal an overthrow? So I can't remember her name but the comedian who used a decapitated head of Trump in her shtick should be charged with conspiring to commit murder then?

It was a protest plain and simple, some people turned it into a riot...but far less than the blm riots

You guys need to stop being so comical

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

What else does a mob marching in the capitol building changing 'Hang Mike Pence' mean?


They wanted to prevent the VP from certifying the election, to keep their TrumpTurd in office.



Sounds a lot like trying to overthrow the government to me.

... It means that Ray Epps and his mates were there.
See Revolver News and all will be explained.

### Salty

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by chizzy

Lol u certainly are grasping for straws sir. So a poster equal an overthrow? So I can't remember her name but the comedian who used a decapitated head of Trump in her shtick should be charged with conspiring to commit murder then?

It was a protest plain and simple, some people turned it into a riot...but far less than the blm riots

You guys need to stop being so comical

Context matters with everything.


A comedian on stage making a joke with a puppet of the president's head isn't going to get the comedian tried for planning an assassination - at least in first world countries.


Likewise, a hundred people disorderly breaking and entering into the capitol building changing 'Hang Mike Pence' likely IS going to be taken for an attempted assassination attempt. And in the context of doing it so he can not certify the votes, an attempted coupe

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Context matters with everything.


A comedian on stage making a joke with a puppet of the president's head isn't going to get the comedian tried for planning an assassination - at least in first world countries.

She wasn't on stage - nor was she funny. She issued a direct threat to the President of the United States. So much so that federal officials threatened to charge her with conspiracy to assassinate the president. She went on the no-fly list

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by berryberry

She wasn't on stage - nor was she funny. She issued a direct threat to the President of the United States. So much so that federal officials threatened to charge her with conspiracy to assassinate the president. She went on the no-fly list

Great, so why are you so opposed to having similar punishments given to the mob that broke into the capitol chanting 'Hang Mike Pence'?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Great, so why are you so opposed to having similar punishments given to the mob that broke into the capitol chanting 'Hang Mike Pence'?

Because even Senile Biden's corrupt DOJ found none of them chanting were deemed to be serious assassination threats

But they did charge a bunch of tourists for illegal parading

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Because even Senile Biden's corrupt DOJ found none of them chanting were deemed to be serious assassination threats

But they did charge a bunch of tourists for illegal parading

I didn't ask what Biden's DOJ found.


I asked YOU, why are you so opposed to having similar punishments given to the mob that broke into the capitol chanting 'Hang Mike Pence'?

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Asked and answered:

Tourists.

(libtards) foolishly think a bunch of mainly unarmed tourists could take over the government.

Alas you simply don't understand how silly your overthrowing the government claim is

John wilkes booth was mainly unarmed with a Deringer

John Hinkley was shooting a 22, pistol- mainly unarmed.- no AR15

The 1, or 3 gunman who shot Kennedy were fairly armed- 3 long rifles.

But none the less, changed a part or the entirety of government with each shot.

This is NOT how tourists come to an event, they carry cameras and smiles. These people carried Sticks, weapons, guns, and all of them wore their Trump shit. Hats, Flags and all the other signs of a president who couldn't accept he lost. Raging on how they were not allowing the votes to be stolen (as instructed) and they were even kind enough to bring gallows to the event. (tourists always do that ya know), planted pipe bombs and a few other accoutrement along the way, while some just stowed their riot gear and guns in cars a short distance away. ( Tourists can't be too careful as to when they need their riot gear)....and then pushed their way past barricades, broke windows, and intimidated police and politicians to "let them in- so they could do tourist activities. - Break into offices, wipe shit on the wall, steal items from the capital, and one was dumb enough to try to face down a pistol with literally her face as she climbed through a broken window, to prove she was a very determined tourist- She died doing tourist shit.

Just like you cannot accept it now. Only because Trumpy continues to prattle-on to those conspiracist minded folks who also cannot accept defeat. And that is mimed and mimicked by your rightwing conspiracy forums, who are also tied to his winning as a personal manifest of themselves. Murdochs, Bannon and the Breitbart etal, only sow more and more dis-information you seem to enjoy eating up. Opinion pieces merely.

It's sad to lose, but even worse when you pout about it, take you ball or the stadium or the country down a road to cry about it. Even Hilary didn't do this, cause she knew the country was more important than her ego. That's what this is really all about. One Big Giant Orange Ego.

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

John wilkes booth was mainly unarmed with a Deringer

John Hinkley was shooting a 22, pistol- mainly unarmed.- no AR15

The 1, or 3 gunman who shot Kennedy were fairly armed- 3 long rifles.

But none the less, changed a part or the entirety of government with each shot.

This is NOT how tourists come to an event, they carry cameras and smiles. These people carried Sticks, weapons, guns, and all of them wore their Trump shit. Hats, Flags and all the other signs of a president who couldn't accept he lost. Raging on how they were not allowing the votes to be stolen (as instructed) and they were even kind enough to bring gallows to the event. (tourists always do that ya know), planted pipe bombs and a few other accoutrement along the way, while some just stowed their riot gear and guns in cars a short distance away. ( Tourists can't be too careful as to when they need their riot gear)....and then pushed their way past barricades, broke windows, and intimidated police and politicians to "let them in- so they could do tourist activities. - Break into offices, wipe shit on the wall, steal items from the capital, and one was dumb enough to try to face down a pistol with literally her face as she climbed through a broken window, to prove she was a very determined tourist- She died doing tourist shit.

Just like you cannot accept it now. Only because Trumpy continues to prattle-on to those conspiracist minded folks who also cannot accept defeat. And that is mimed and mimicked by your rightwing conspiracy forums, who are also tied to his winning as a personal manifest of themselves. Murdochs, Bannon and the Breitbart etal, only sow more and more dis-information you seem to enjoy eating up. Opinion pieces merely.

It's sad to lose, but even worse when you pout about it, take you ball or the stadium or the country down a road to cry about it. Even Hilary didn't do this, cause she knew the country was more important than her ego. That's what this is really all about. One Big Giant Orange Ego.

you said it, now prove it.... where is any evidence the rioters had guns or knifes for that matter...

" and one was dumb enough to try to face down a pistol with literally her face as she climbed through a broken window, to prove she was a very determined tourist"

wow eye.... you sure have a vivid imagination as to the reason that poor girl got shot by a an asshole cop who should have been charged....

[eyecu2]

sure thing Chizzy:

from https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/97787...-say-they-used

Federal prosecutors say that Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland was arrested on Capitol grounds on the evening of Jan. 6 while carrying a Taurus G2c 9 mm handgun with one round in the chamber and a full 12-round magazine. He also allegedly had an extra magazine in his pocket and was carrying a gas mask, pocket knife and first-aid kit.



UCLA Student Charged In Capitol Riot Took Inspiration From Online Extremist Lonnie Leroy Coffman of Alabama was also arrested that evening after law enforcement found two firearms on his person, as well as what a federal judge referred to as a "small armory" in his truck, which was parked near the Capitol. According to the court, the government found "a loaded handgun," "a loaded rifle," "a loaded shotgun," "a crossbow with bolts," "several machetes," "a stun gun" and "11 mason jars containing a flammable liquid, with a hole punched in the top of each jar." According to the government, surveillance footage showed him "in attendance at the events at the Capitol," though he has not been charged with breaching the building.

Cleveland Grover Meredith of North Carolina planned to arrive in D.C. for the Trump rallies on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors, but he was delayed because of car trouble. He was arrested the following day for allegedly assaulting a man in Washington, D.C., in a traffic-related incident and for making death threats against the D.C. mayor and Pelosi.

During a search, law enforcement said they found in his possession "a Glock 19, nine millimeter pistol, a Tavor X95 assault rifle and approximately hundreds of rounds of ammunition." Citing text messages sent by Meredith, a federal prosecutor argued in court that he "relished in the carnage of January 6th."



These are just off one site; and the comments are that while many people were NOT arresting during the actual Riots, they were later identified and through self incrimination/ or by photos had MANY more weapons that were on their person during the riots. I Doubt any Always Trumpers will agree that this is the case, since they were not caught "red handed", but they were indeed arrested at some point, and charged based on video or pictures and posts of them attending. Sure, some bad actors, and some not so bad actors. But Hardly Visitors or Tourists. Those ppl who were just there as tourists wouldn't get involved in a shoving match with cops, or others just like the majority of members of this board wouldn't get involved in my opinion. You may disagree, but the fact that only one person was shot doesn't negate that others died, and that the intention was to stop the voting and validation of the results of each state, where duely elected officials of the state, both dem and gop, asserted that the votes were indeed valid. Why is that so hard to understand, and why do you deny that these people were violent. Hell if you got into a shoving match with your neighbor, and hit them with a pole, a bike, or a club, or sprayed them with bear spray and were dressed in tactical gear, you'd be "fucking A" - charged with assault.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by chizzy

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" and one was dumb enough to try to face down a pistol with literally her face as she climbed through a broken window, to prove she was a very determined tourist"

wow eye.... you sure have a vivid imagination as to the reason that poor girl got shot by a an asshole cop who should have been charged....

What would you call climbing through a window and being shot? Was she supposed to be there? Did she get an invitation to be there? Was her god given right to climb through a broken window and scream at a cop - who was charged with protecting the capital and the people in it, was that something she was supposed to be doing? I'll bet the reality is that she, Like a few ppl on this board, are radicals when it comes to wanting to take the matter into physical form. The whole " we the people" forum has made a great slogan, and turned it into marching orders that we are pissed and not gonna take it anymore. Mo Brooks said it for you- Were gonna march down there and start taking names, and kicking ass. While it sounds good, and fired up everyone, it literally inspired people to act out more physically than any "group of tourists" would. That's not even a debatable comment.

Kicking ass, is what adolescent teens say they are gonna do, and on Jan 6, how low-brow trumptards identify with. They put that on their bodies in tattoos to be "more patriotic, but look idiotic IMHO. Patriotism isn't born out of slogans and sayings or tattoos, or trucks flying a god damned trump flag. It's standing up for your country when it counts, fighting your countrys' battles like our veterans do.

This whole politicization of who's a patriot and who isn't, is a ruse on the right. And adding violence with the mix on Jan 6th, the result of which honestly doesn't look like patriotism; It looks like zeolites who cannot communicate and rely of force in order to get what they want. Bullies, who will at the end of the day, as in this case, suffer the consequences of a flawed coup, and be incarcerated for a few days and up to several years as is the case with more than a few people with more to come.

That doesn't happen to a tourist my friend. That happens to an asshole who deserves it.

[MrPlows]

That's hilarious.
Just like how Bill Clinton signed the "Violence Against Women Act" that made it legal for Ken Starr to dig into his personal sex life over a sexual harassment civil case.


Hoisted on their own petards.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

John wilkes booth was mainly unarmed with a Deringer

John Hinkley was shooting a 22, pistol- mainly unarmed.- no AR15

The 1, or 3 gunman who shot Kennedy were fairly armed- 3 long rifles.

But none the less, changed a part or the entirety of government with each shot.

This is NOT how tourists come to an event, they carry cameras and smiles. These people carried Sticks, weapons, guns, and all of them wore their Trump shit. Hats, Flags and all the other signs of a president who couldn't accept he lost. Raging on how they were not allowing the votes to be stolen (as instructed) and they were even kind enough to bring gallows to the event. (tourists always do that ya know), planted pipe bombs and a few other accoutrement along the way, while some just stowed their riot gear and guns in cars a short distance away. ( Tourists can't be too careful as to when they need their riot gear)....and then pushed their way past barricades, broke windows, and intimidated police and politicians to "let them in- so they could do tourist activities. - Break into offices, wipe shit on the wall, steal items from the capital, and one was dumb enough to try to face down a pistol with literally her face as she climbed through a broken window, to prove she was a very determined tourist- She died doing tourist shit.

Just like you cannot accept it now. Only because Trumpy continues to prattle-on to those conspiracist minded folks who also cannot accept defeat. And that is mimed and mimicked by your rightwing conspiracy forums, who are also tied to his winning as a personal manifest of themselves. Murdochs, Bannon and the Breitbart etal, only sow more and more dis-information you seem to enjoy eating up. Opinion pieces merely.

It's sad to lose, but even worse when you pout about it, take you ball or the stadium or the country down a road to cry about it. Even Hilary didn't do this, cause she knew the country was more important than her ego. That's what this is really all about. One Big Giant Orange Ego.

Wow what a vivid imagination you have.
You are so far gone with the Trump hatred it isn't even funny

Fact - it was a mainly unarmed crowd of tourists. That is why those that have been charged were charged with that horrific crime of "illegal parading" Please.

Fact - just because you can find a handful of people who had a weapon, the vast vast majority of the crowd did not.

So please explain again how this crowd of mainly unarmed tourists was going to overthrow the government with the largest military in the world? Were the handful of people with a weapon going to go all Rambo and destroy the entire US military, tanks, nukes, planes, subs, etc? Anyone who thinks this group of tourists was there to overthrow the government is delusional.

Fact - about those pipe bombs - did we ever hear any more about them? Anyone ever caught? Or was it a false flag event from Ray Epps and his band of FBI members to try and make the Trump crowd look bad? I mean if these were so dangerous, why has there not been an effort to find who planted them. Hell, the corrupt FBI spent more effort searching Melania's wardrobe during their illegal raid at Mar-A-Lago than they have on these so called pipe bombs

Fact - Ashley Babbit was unarmed, posed no threat and yet a black security guard hiding behind a door executed her in cold blood. This was worse than old Saint George Floyd being killed - at least he was a real criminal. Of course there was no outcry for Ashley Babbit because the races were reversed and she was a law abiding Trump supporter, not some libtard criminal.

The delusions that libtards have about January 6 are both scary and laughable on many levels. Like all things Trump, libtards have lost whatever remaining ability they had to think rationally. It's sad the libtards can't see this and are so deranged about anything Trump that they ignore the destruction Senile Biden and his cronies in Congress have done to our once great country