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05-18-2025, 01:48 PM
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Respectfully Michael, the first amendment overrides that 1751 crap. James Comey is a private citizen, and if he wants to splatter 8647 all over social media, that's his constitutional right as an American.
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Hi Tiny. I think you and case law will find that the First Amendment does not protect violent or unlawful conduct, even if it is meant to express an idea, nor does it protect speech that incites imminent violence or lawlessness.
The key in each case is whether it is a true threat or not. Or if events directly following either “8647” as promulgated by Mr. Comey, or the “Hang Mike Pence” example you cited lead to (or could be determined to lead to, on the merits of each situation) whether or not a true threat exists (or existed).
I do believe federal officials might visit Mr. Comey if they haven’t already. As a witness to a similar threat in real life the police took action but the instigator did not suffer - one of the group surrounding the instigator did.
In layman’s terms, "you can beat the rap but not the ride," lol.
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05-18-2025, 02:31 PM
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Why can't any of the libtards just admit that Comey's social media post was... extremely inappropriate? You know, at least say it was bad form, poor judgment for a former FBI director, etc.
They can't and won't. Instead they applaud him for trolling. Comey is a member of the libtard tribe, so they will circle the wagons no matter what he does.
Heck, I'm beginning to think he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and he still wouldn't lose any libtard supporters.
Sad.
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05-18-2025, 04:03 PM
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Why can't any of the libtards just admit that Comey's social media post was... extremely inappropriate? You know, at least say it was bad form, poor judgment for a former FBI director, etc.
They can't and won't. Instead they applaud him for trolling. Comey is a member of the libtard tribe, so they will circle the wagons no matter what he does.
Heck, I'm beginning to think he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and he still wouldn't lose any libtard supporters.
Sad.
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LustyLad,
It was bad judgment unless the motive was to provoke a reaction. Since he has a book coming out soon the reaction serves the purpose.
Using the label “libtard” however does not give anyone the motivation to respond in a reasonable manner.
I completely disagree on your sentiment. I haven’t heard or seen anyone, liberal or conservative applauding him. What I’ve seen is a massive overreaction by the republitards. This is only an issue because the MAGA crowd made it an issue.
If he sells a boat load of books he has the right wing media machine to thank for that.
I swear it’s like waving a red cape in front of a bull. The overreaction is completely predictable..
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05-18-2025, 04:47 PM
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LustyLad,
It was bad judgment unless the motive was to provoke a reaction. Since he has a book coming out soon the reaction serves the purpose.
Using the label “libtard” however does not give anyone the motivation to respond in a reasonable manner.
I completely disagree on your sentiment. I haven’t heard or seen anyone, liberal or conservative applauding him. What I’ve seen is a massive overreaction by the republitards. This is only an issue because the MAGA crowd made it an issue.
If he sells a boat load of books he has the right wing media machine to thank for that.
I swear it’s like waving a red cape in front of a bull. The overreaction is completely predictable..
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of course it was bad judgement and of course Comey knew what the reaction would be he counted on it to shill his new crime novel. he must think he's the next Erle Stanley Gardener bahhaaa
what Comey did was intentional in every way unless you think a guy who could rise to FBI Director doesn't understand his own actions?
BAHHAHAAA
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05-18-2025, 05:31 PM
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It was bad judgment unless the motive was to provoke a reaction. Since he has a book coming out soon the reaction serves the purpose.
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Wow. So you're saying bad behavior is excused if the perp does it to enrich himself? Can trump use that defense whenever he's accused of corruption? IMO if he did it deliberately to boost his book sales, that makes him look worse, not better.
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I haven’t heard or seen anyone, liberal or conservative applauding him.
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Seriously? You might want to re-read this thread.
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Gotta love Comey trolling MAGA sheep and their master. 
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05-18-2025, 06:06 PM
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Wow. So you're saying bad behavior is excused if the perp does it to enrich himself? Can trump use that defense whenever he's accused of corruption? IMO if he did it deliberately to boost his book sales, that makes him look worse, not better.
Seriously? You might want to re-read this thread.
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The egregiously bad behavior of people like Trump, DeSantis, Abbot, Matt Gaetz, George Santos were and are excused and ignored by conservatives all the time. Plenty of instances are held up as examples of “winning”.
What Comey posted was fairly innocuous to everyone but those who wanted it to mean something else.
When you said that liberals were applauding this behavior I assumed you were referring to the mainstream media and liberal politicians. They have by and large ignored the issue and let the right wing media spiral out of control.
Your statement would be correct however if you were referencing internet rando’s which I do not.
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05-18-2025, 07:33 PM
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The egregiously bad behavior of people like Trump, DeSantis, Abbot, Matt Gaetz, George Santos were and are excused and ignored by conservatives all the time. Plenty of instances are held up as examples of “winning”.
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You're way off-topic and deflecting. Worse, you're doing it with a sweeping, non-specific generalization that lumps together 5 current or former politicians, whose main similarity is you dislike them all. Santos is in jail and nobody is excusing the bad behavior that put him there.
Let's back up and try again - You said Comey exercised bad judgment UNLESS his motive was to boost sales of his new book. If that was the motive, you think it magically transforms his bad behavior into acceptable or even good behavior. Isn't that the underlying logic of your argument?
Good grief!
If a pecuniary motive can magically turn bad behavior into good behavior, then you're giving every corrupt politician on the planet a get-out-of-jail-free card.
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05-18-2025, 08:51 PM
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You're way off-topic and deflecting. Worse, you're doing it with a sweeping, non-specific generalization that lumps together 5 current or former politicians, whose main similarity is you dislike them all. Santos is in jail and nobody is excusing the bad behavior that put him there.
Let's back up and try again - You said Comey exercised bad judgment UNLESS his motive was to boost sales of his new book. If that was the motive, you think it magically transforms his bad behavior into acceptable or even good behavior. Isn't that the underlying logic of your argument?
Good grief!
If a pecuniary motive can magically turn bad behavior into good behavior, then you're giving every corrupt politician on the planet a get-out-of-jail-free card.
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I’m not deflecting anything. I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy.
The problem here is that you are seeing a pretty innocuous post using the numbers 8647 as more than it is. Is that post really an act of bad behavior? Of course not. Bad Judgement? Maybe unless the result is what you wanted. It doesn’t make bad behavior good because it was never “bad” in the first place.
The right wing conservative media is playing this up for all its worth and it appears that you are buying into it hook line and sinker.
Good luck with all the bogus outrage.
P.S. The pecuniary motive you are referring to can be laid at the feet of all the media bottom feeders who are making this into more than it is.
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05-18-2025, 10:02 PM
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I’m not deflecting anything. I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy.
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You're resorting to whataboutism. I wouldn't mind so much if you pointed out some specific example(s). But you don't even do that. Instead you throw out 5 names, all Republicans, and lump them all together for allegedly engaging in some kind of "egregiously bad behavior" that is unspecified and unsubstantiated. And you expect to earn debate points that way?
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The problem here is that you are seeing a pretty innocuous post using the numbers 8647 as more than it is.
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No, the problem is that you're unwilling to be critical of Comey's post AT ALL. I'm not saying "lock him up" or claiming he did anything criminal. But I do expect FBI Directors, current and former, to be held to a higher standard than the average internet punk-troll. I guess in Comey's case that's too much to expect.
He's the fucking idiot who politicized the FBI in the first place. He never should have made that bipolar "no reasonable prosecutor" speech letting Hillary off the hook on July 5, 2016. He should have followed FBI rules and guidelines and stayed out of the fray. He should have let his (compromised) boss, AG Loretta Lynch, act as the partisan hack. But his ego and love of the limelight were too insistent. Jim Comey did more to destroy the FBI as a trustworthy and professional institution than any person who ever walked through the doors of the J. Edgar Hoover building.
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Is that post really an act of bad behavior? Of course not. Bad Judgement? Maybe unless the result is what you wanted. It doesn’t make bad behavior good because it was never “bad” in the first place.
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You're twisting like a pretzel to avoid conceding the obvious - bad judgment begets bad behavior. The FBI is supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical. Here we have a former Director posting something on social media that he knows is ambiguous insofar as it may or may not be read as calling for the assassination of a sitting US President, but is clearly unambiguous in its partisan call for the President's removal from office one way or another. That's highly inappropriate and you know it.
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The right wing conservative media is playing this up for all its worth and it appears that you are buying into it hook line and sinker.
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Fuck the "right wing conservative media". I'm playing it down, not up. You're completely minimizing it. You're the guy buying into the left wing "circle the wagons and defend Comey 100% whenever & for whatever" narrative hook, line and sinker.
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Good luck with all the bogus outrage.
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I'm not outraged. I'm disappointed. At both Comey and you.
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P.S. The pecuniary motive you are referring to can be laid at the feet of all the media bottom feeders who are making this into more than it is.
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No idea what that even means. Just more irrational blame-shifting on your part.
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05-18-2025, 10:54 PM
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Could Comey have meant just impeachment? Sure. But, seriously, after all the attempts on DJT's life, I would like to think he would know better at this point.
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05-18-2025, 11:12 PM
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Yep. You get it, SecretE. Wish I had made the point as succinctly as you just did. Some people like to argue for the sake of arguing.
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05-19-2025, 12:40 AM
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No, the problem is that you're unwilling to be critical of Comey's post AT ALL. I'm not saying "lock him up" or claiming he did anything criminal. But I do expect FBI Directors, current and former, to be held to a higher standard than the average internet punk-troll. I guess in Comey's case that's too much to expect.
You're twisting like a pretzel to avoid conceding the obvious - bad judgment begets bad behavior. The FBI is supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical. Here we have a former Director posting something on social media that he knows is ambiguous insofar as it may or may not be read as calling for the assassination of a sitting US President, but is clearly unambiguous in its partisan call for the President's removal from office one way or another. That's highly inappropriate and you know it.
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First of all I’m not defending or deflecting James Comey actions at all. You’re the one claiming I am.
I’m attacking the motives and actions of the conservative media and the Trump administration for making this into something it’s not. I’m not under reacting every one else is massively over reacting.
Here are some of the public statements from the administration on the issue.
“He knew exactly what that meant. A child knows what that meant. If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination," the president said.
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Thursday in an X post that the U.S. Secret Service was looking into Comey's post.
"Disgraced former FBI Director James Comey just called for the assassination of @POTUS Trump," she said.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard called for Comey to be imprisoned.
"Any other person with a position of influence that he has, people who take very seriously what a guy of his stature, his experience and what the propaganda media has built him up to be, I'm very concerned for the president's life,” she told Fox News host Jesse Waters.
She said Comey should be put "behind bars."
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Taylor Budowich wrote in his own social media post Comey's message "can clearly be interpreted as 'a hit' on the sitting President of the United States," and said it is "being taken seriously."
Mr. Trump called the post "a terrible thing" and Comey a "dirty cop."
Even Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett demanded action, posting, “Arrest Comey.”
Congressman Greg Steube of Florida wrote on X:
Jim Comey has built quite the rap sheet.
Add “inciting the assassination of a President” to the long list of things he should be investigated for:
But RSC Chair Rep. August Pfluger (Texas), called Comey’s social media post a “shocking betrayal of the trust once placed in him by the American people” and accused Comey of “the unthinkable: calling for violence against our Commander-in-Chief.”
“Just James Comey casually calling for my dad to be murdered. This is who the Dem-Media worships. Demented!!!!” Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son, wrote on X Thursday, pinning it to the top of his profile.
Far-right influencer Laura Loomer also freaked out in multiple X posts, claiming, “This is a call for the assassination of President Trump by the former FBI Director!”
And this is just from our politicians and political operatives. I’m sure I could find a lot more if I included the random crazy posts on x.
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05-19-2025, 06:45 AM
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Could Comey have meant just impeachment? Sure. But, seriously, after all the attempts on DJT's life, I would like to think he would know better at this point.
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I guess we will have to wait until some leftist looney, inspired by Comey’s sea shell message, to take a shot at President Trump before everyone realizes how serious this can be.
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05-19-2025, 08:50 AM
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I guess we will have to wait until some leftist looney, inspired by Comey’s sea shell message, to take a shot at President Trump before everyone realizes how serious this can be.
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05-19-2025, 09:08 AM
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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world...st/ar-AA1EXflc
8647 row: Old 86’ing posts by Pete Hegseth and Posobiec on Biden go viral after Comey's post
MAGA supporters have erupted in anger over a recent social media post by former FBI Director James Comey, which they interpreted as a threat against former President Donald Trump. The controversy has reignited a wider debate about the use of coded language in politics after old posts from prominent MAGA figures, including Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth and influencer Jack Posobiec, resurfaced and went viral.
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