Tylenol link to Autism

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Tylenol will fuck the Liver up long before it will cause Autism.

Actually, Tylenol has acetaminophen in it. It is one of the safest pain relievers you should take to avoid any harm to your liver.

I have not read all of the posts in this thread, but I am sure many are full of misinformation in them like the Tylenol example I just pointed out. Anyway, if you or a loved one has a medical problem, go see a damn medical doctor and be smart and don't listen to the many folks who don't know shit but will speak as if they do... and just for the record, I don't know shit either which is why I take my kids to MDs who do.

[Jacuzzme]

^^ What he said. It’s ibuprofen that’s notorious as bad to the liver if used excessively.

[Ripmany]

Austin and prostitution go hand and hand, Tylenol is what I take for my headache when people tell me how great trump is.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by RX792P

Meanwhile, how about that measles outbreak in Utah and Arizona?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...181507923.html

After the one Texas/New Mexico experienced earlier this year.

Any chance the outbreak originated with illegals?

[biomed1]

To Return to te Original Topic . . . .

#6 - Respect the topics presented by those who start a thread. Attempts to derail a thread or change it's direction is referred to as thread hijack and will be discouraged. Attempts to guide a thread in the right direction are appreciated, while responses to posts which hijack a thread are not.

[RX792P]

The three men on stage can't even tell the same story.

Trump

Because I think you shouldn’t take it. You shouldn’t take it during the entire pregnancy. They may tell you ‘toward the end’ of the pregnancy — You shouldn’t take it during the entire.

Mehmet Oz

So the message is not, ‘Never take Tylenol.’ It’s, ‘Take Tylenol judiciously.’ Take it by talking with your doctor. Make sure there’s an important reason to take it. Don’t take it willy-nilly because you think it’s so safe it couldn’t possibly cause a problem, because those assumptions appear to be erroneous.”

[farmstud60]

Sigh, I don't think most people replying in this thread have any clue about life science and simply believe whatever story the highest degreed person tells them.


In other words, pretty much every farmer in the United States has a better understanding.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by sand247

Defending big pharma is wild, absolutely wild. With all the data proving harm by both the COVID vacine and large swaths of drugs, your position is now to defend the helpless big pharma?

... Reckon we Australians surely see things differently
than most other people, mate. ... Farmer's thread topic
is whether there is a link between Tylenol and Autism
and lads all over the stage with either defence of the
chem companys OR somehow trying to tie Trump to everything.

... Can we all just agree that MORE study is needed?

#### Salty

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by farmstud60

Sigh, I don't think most people replying in this thread have any clue about life science and simply believe whatever story the highest degreed person tells them.


In other words, pretty much every farmer in the United States has a better understanding.

Yes, and Dead Doctors Don’t Lie

[Tiny]

Excerpts from

Trump, Tylenol and the Plaintiffs Bar

The acetaminophen link to autism is based on weak evidence pushed by RFK Jr. and his legal allies.

By The Editorial Board

We’ll admit we didn’t see this coming: President Trump advising pregnant women against using one of the most ubiquitous over-the-counter medicines in America. That’s what happened Monday when Mr. Trump joined his health advisers in linking acetaminophen, the main ingredient in Tylenol, to autism. What’s going on here has less to do with healthcare than with a campaign by the plaintiffs bar.

“Don’t take Tylenol,” Mr. Trump said standing next to Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “Fight like hell not to take it.” If a drug company made the unproven claims aired at the White House, the Food and Drug Administration would threaten legal action....

Some studies have found that neuro-developmental diseases including autism are more common in children of women who use acetaminophen more often during pregnancy. But correlation doesn’t prove causation, and even the evidence of the association is mixed.

All of this suggests a need for policy caution, which is why the FDA has for many years declined to change the warning label on Tylenol. One reason is because doctors typically advise that pregnant women take acetaminophen as the safest remedy for fever and pain; anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen can endanger a fetus. Fevers and illnesses during pregnancy increase the risk of congenital defects. They’ve also been associated with autism.

...So why the sudden alarm, complete with a presidential presser? The Occam’s razor answer is the influence of RFK Jr., who is carrying water for his friends in the plaintiffs bar. A who’s-who of lawsuit shops are pushing the Tylenol-autism link in federal court. The litigants include the Lanier Law Firm, Beasley Allen, Cooper Law Partners, and Keller Postman. Most have been allies of Mr. Kennedy in other mass torts, such as against the weed-killer Roundup and Merck’s HPV vaccine.

Their main lawsuit claim is that Tylenol’s marketer, Kenvue Inc., failed to warn users about an autism-acetaminophen link. But a judge overseeing the litigation rejected their claims two years ago, and in damning fashion.

The lawyers are hoping the government will breathe new life into them—conveniently timed for their appeal at the Second Circuit Court of Appeals this fall. Lead attorney Ashley Keller told Reuters last week that he planned to alert the appellate court “if HHS follows through and does the right thing.”

And what do you know, HHS will now promote a “nationwide public service campaign to inform families” about the alleged link. The transparent goal is to drum up more claims to drive a bigger damage award or settlement.

The FDA said it will also initiate “a safety label change for acetaminophen” in response “to prior clinical and laboratory studies that suggest a potential association between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes” despite a “lack of clear causal evidence.” (Our italics.)

The lawsuits cite small studies that suffer from a variety of methodological problems and don’t control for confounding variables like maternal illness and genetics, as federal Judge Denise Cote explained in a 148-page ruling in 2023. She eviscerated the analysis of these studies by the plaintiffs’ experts.

“Their analyses have not served to enlighten but to obfuscate the weakness of the evidence on which they purport to rely and the contradictions in the research,” she wrote. Their approach “permitted cherry-picking, allowed a results-driven analysis, and obscured the complexities, inconsistencies, and weaknesses in the underlying data.”

The best studies have tried to control for maternal genetic risk and fevers during pregnancy by examining a woman’s acetaminophen use and autism among different children. Those studies found no link, but the plaintiffs’ experts ignored them. Their “testimony does not reflect a reliable application of scientific methods,” Judge Cote wrote...

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/tylenol-...nion_lead_pos1

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Actually, Tylenol has acetaminophen in it. It is one of the safest pain relievers you should take to avoid any harm to your liver.

I have not read all of the posts in this thread, but I am sure many are full of misinformation in them like the Tylenol example I just pointed out. Anyway, if you or a loved one has a medical problem, go see a damn medical doctor and be smart and don't listen to the many folks who don't know shit but will speak as if they do... and just for the record, I don't know shit either which is why I take my kids to MDs who do.

No, actually Ibuprofen is easier on the liver but hard on the Kidneys, so choose your poison wisely.

[Jacuzzme]

IMO doing something is better than doing nothing, the Trump team is at least willing to engage the matter. That’s more than be said about any of their predecessors, even his own first term. I coach Miracle League baseball, if you want to call it coaching when it’s more of a chaos controller, and it’s really sad how bad some of the kids are. When I was in school you couldn’t have found enough players for a single team, now there’s an entire league.

If anyone is interested, it’s a great cause:
https://www.mlswpa.org/

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

For all the fashionable and trendy, albeit dumb as a box of rocks, types gulping down Tylenol to stick it to the man, perhaps keep in mind this olde tweet from the makers of Tylenol:

TYLENOL® @tylenol
We actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today.

1:31 PM · Mar 7, 2017

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I’m kind of wondering what role microplastics play in brain development and brain function.

Recent studies have found that microplastics can accumulate in the human brain, with concentrations significantly higher than in other organs like the liver and kidneys. The amount of microplastics in brain tissue has been increasing over time, raising concerns about potential health impacts, especially in individuals with dementia.

Yale University Smithsonian Magazine

I was wondering why they made such a big hoopla about announcing this. Not like there is any big study break through. Especially after doggy cut all research $$$$. But hear the story about the plastics on National Palestinian Radio today. Ima sure alot of chronic problems are related to this. A pity we won't know more about it if current policy of healthcare gets to be the norm.

Originally Posted by Iceman

Any chance the outbreak originated with illegals?

Are you saying Tylenol is also responsible for measles? Think we are only allowed one issue with said drug per thread

Originally Posted by RX792P

The three men on stage can't even tell the same story.

Trump


Mehmet Oz

I would not trust ANYTHING along healthcare announcements as long as RFKjr is in that office.

Originally Posted by farmstud60

Sigh, I don't think most people replying in this thread have any clue about life science and simply believe whatever story the highest degreed person tells them.


In other words, pretty much every farmer in the United States has a better understanding.

Even a relative of mine who was a rancher? He use to treat himself with the veterinarian pharmaceuticals. Even know one guy that runs cattle that on his insurance he has listed his veterinarian as his primary care doctor.

Guess those farmers do have a better understanding

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

IMO doing something is better than doing nothing, the Trump team is at least willing to engage the matter. That’s more than be said about any of their predecessors, even his own first term. I coach Miracle League baseball, if you want to call it coaching when it’s more of a chaos controller, and it’s really sad how bad some of the kids are. When I was in school you couldn’t have found enough players for a single team, now there’s an entire league.

If anyone is interested, it’s a great cause:
https://www.mlswpa.org/

Previous administrations hands down, imo, were more concerned with the health of this country than the current admin. There is no great show or new discovery that would put the current one ahead with the autism thing that the past ones.

If anything at all, they did greater harm to the populace by letting them believe proven medical procedures are not safe.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

For all the fashionable and trendy, albeit dumb as a box of rocks, types gulping down Tylenol to stick it to the man, perhaps keep in mind this olde tweet from the makers of Tylenol:

... Too Right, mate... Maybe the makers of Tylenol already
KNEW there was a potential problem way back then.

#### Salty