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09-29-2025, 03:49 PM
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Exactly texassapper! Many Republicans and Democrats alike are in denial.
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Did you actually READ the link that he posted? It says this whole "it ain't a .30-06" is bullshit.
And so is your YouTube link. Clayton Morris is a con-man and shyster. He's been sued multiple times, including by the state of Indiana. He's not a good source to support your argument. But hey. He got you to watch a couple of ads! That's all he and YouTube care about.
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09-29-2025, 03:56 PM
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Did you actually READ the link that he posted? It says this whole "it ain't a .30-06" is bullshit.
And so is your YouTube link. Clayton Morris is a con-man and shyster. He's been sued multiple times, including by the state of Indiana. He's not a good source to support your argument. But hey. He got you to watch a couple of ads! That's all he and YouTube care about.
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Why are you defending the mainstream media narrative when the official narrative regarding the Kirk assassination has collapsed? You wanted to hear expert analysis, they brought on the "expert" and things just don't seem like they add up. Believe the corporate media all you want. The Patel led FBI won't even release the Epstein list when you know they have it, do you believe everything they're telling you about Tyler Robinson? Who is the one being naive? The corporate media and Governments NEVER LIE, they ALWAYS tell the truth. Yeah right!
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09-29-2025, 04:08 PM
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Why are you defending the mainstream media narrative when the official narrative regarding the Kirk assassination has collapsed? You wanted to hear expert analysis, they brought on the "expert" and things just don't seem like they add up. Believe the corporate media all you want. The Patel led FBI won't even release the Epstein list when you know they have it, do you believe everything they're telling you about Tyler Robinson? Who is the one being naive? The corporate media and Governments NEVER LIE, they ALWAYS tell the truth. Yeah right!
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I am not defending anything other than common sense. You are using sources like Morris, who is not credible. Nor is anyone who would appear in his click-bait videos. He is indefensible.
Find something better. But you can't.
Because the simplest answer is the right one.
A stupid, fucked up kid used an old (but still effective!) military surplus rifle to make a hell of a shot. End of story.
Oswald made an even better one. And also acted alone.
There is no further point to this.
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09-29-2025, 07:07 PM
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I am not defending anything other than common sense. You are using sources like Morris, who is not credible. Nor is anyone who would appear in his click-bait videos. He is indefensible.
Find something better. But you can't.
Because the simplest answer is the right one.
A stupid, fucked up kid used an old (but still effective!) military surplus rifle to make a hell of a shot. End of story.
Oswald made an even better one. And also acted alone.
There is no further point to this.
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You're not defending common sense, you're defending the mainstream medias narrative and Kash Patel's narrative. Patel couldn't even release the Epstein list and Trump's voter base let him hear about it.
The mainstream media has discredited themselves so many times over decades it's ridiculous. Clayton Morris digs deeper and poses better questions and viewpoints that the mainstream media will not touch because the mainstream media is owned and controlled by billionaires who do not care about you. The mainstream media is biased. The mainstream media is dying. Many people don't believe the corporate controlled mainstream media but naive people do.
There is a further point to this. This will not just abruptly end, many people will be talking about this all the way to the trial and afterwards. Tyler Robinson was most definitely involved but he did not kill Charlie Kirk. Somebody else did. You're entitled to your own opinion.
It seems like you're using an alt account to communicate on this thread because it seems like you have something to hide. Like you're not being genuine. If this is your alt account can you use your "real" account?
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09-29-2025, 09:50 PM
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More Things to Consider in the Kirk Assassination
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09-30-2025, 12:12 AM
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What happened to the good old days in Utah when a closeted homo gets busted by his parents for killing someone and he could just turn himself in and be accepted as the killer without a fuss.
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09-30-2025, 08:02 PM
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Fo sure, Lucas.
Can anyone step forward with an autopsy report?
Until then, ima sure it'll be introduced as evidence in court.
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09-30-2025, 11:15 PM
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The problem with this argument is that the Police may not be releasing all the information available. The information online may not be accurate. The speculation being bandied about is not based on the entire evidence and possibly biased or misleading evidence.
This entire debate on what is true or false is being speculated by people who are certain that the government is lying to them, when the truth is that the government is probably not releasing the full facts and they may be releasing partial information because they have not collected and analyzed all the evidence yet.
People need to stop speculating and wait for the police and the government come to a conclusion based on the analysis of the evidence by experts.
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09-30-2025, 11:25 PM
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Come on, Txdot, these maggies live and breath speculation, conspiracy and the wisdom of the god given truth that is called social media.
Don't take away their coin of the realm.
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10-01-2025, 09:03 AM
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One nut. One gun. One shot fired. One dead.
That's it.
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10-01-2025, 07:20 PM
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The problem with this argument is that the Police may not be releasing all the information available. The information online may not be accurate. The speculation being bandied about is not based on the entire evidence and possibly biased or misleading evidence.
This entire debate on what is true or false is being speculated by people who are certain that the government is lying to them, when the truth is that the government is probably not releasing the full facts and they may be releasing partial information because they have not collected and analyzed all the evidence yet.
People need to stop speculating and wait for the police and the government come to a conclusion based on the analysis of the evidence by experts.
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Well as an example we waited for the "government experts" to give us the Epstein list and they couldn't get the story straight. Many feel like the people were deliberately lied to and we were. Many on the Left, the Right, and down the middle don't believe what the government is telling them about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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10-01-2025, 07:21 PM
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One nut. One gun. One shot fired. One dead.
That's it.
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You wish it was that easy but it's more complicated than that.
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10-02-2025, 12:27 AM
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The problem with this argument is that the Police may not be releasing all the information available. The information online may not be accurate. The speculation being bandied about is not based on the entire evidence and possibly biased or misleading evidence.
This entire debate on what is true or false is being speculated by people who are certain that the government is lying to them, when the truth is that the government is probably not releasing the full facts and they may be releasing partial information because they have not collected and analyzed all the evidence yet.
People need to stop speculating and wait for the police and the government come to a conclusion based on the analysis of the evidence by experts.
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I'm thinking they know there is another shooter and are keeping it quiet while they search. If they announced they are still looking it could make it harder to find them.
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10-02-2025, 06:44 AM
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I'm thinking they know there is another shooter and are keeping it quiet while they search. If they announced they are still looking it could make it harder to find them.
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Possibly, realistically though they have released very few of the details of the shooting. Possibly so they can keep investigating, or maybe because they don’t want to prejudice the jury pool.
Either way speculation at this point is a waste of time.
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10-02-2025, 09:27 AM
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You wish it was that easy but it's more complicated than that.
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No its really not. It was an easy shot. The only complication is that it was a down angle which is going to lead rounds tending to go high. Thats why I think the troon was aiming center mass and the hit was in the neck. I watched the close up a couple of times the day of. That wound was consistent with a 30 '06 = 762. Massive blood loss, instant BP drop. Kirk was dead before they could get him off the stage. The escape route was clear back to the school bookstore parking lot.
I think there was some coordination amongst the troons and the texts were an attempt to make it look like they knew nothing. but the servers have all been backed up and the govt. will have everything to execute the troon.
The whole Israel angle is target fixation.
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