why do you think that foreigners pose a greater danger than non foreigners?”

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

your stats are meaningless given 30 million are illegal and an order of magnitude 300 million are citizens. of course the larger set has more crime. proves nothing about the fact that recent illegal immigration has spiked crime that's fact


nonsense. that's the far left MSN saying that where under Obama they hailed him as an American Emperor of Rome.

the demonrats are fickle beasts they label their own as Caesar of the people and Trump and Republicans Hitler.

see the bias here?

First of all crime rates across the country have been falling since 2020. Even though we had a spike in asylum seekers and other illegal border crossings during that time. Your argument that illegal immigration has spiked crime rates is so much bullshit.

And as far as your perceptions of how the media treated Obama you have an incredibly confused view of the past. The media went after Obama plenty during his tenure including Fox News. You seem to think that he was sainted in some way and that the media treated him as such. Nothing could be further from the truth. It just seems that way in comparison to Trump. Why, because Trump is about as reviled as a person can get and the only good media coverage he gets is from the far right media influencers. Not even Fox News kowtows like they used to.

[pxmcc]

@Waco:

per capita, sir. note the per capita crime rates, not the overall # of crimes..

native born U.S. citizens have higher rates of criminality, simple as that..

[ICU 812]

However one wishes to quantify it, that ever the potential for "danger" that a foreign national who is here in contravention of our immigration laws presents to American Society, that "danger" may be eliminated by deporting that person.

the relative degree or frequency of the percieved hazard to the American public is irrelevant.

[rooster]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

feel free to post an article that refutes the claims....

Originally Posted by rooster

That no one will read also? Nah. Feel free to keep wasting your time though posting this biased junk.
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

so you concede my facts. Thanks….

If you say so!

(your simple denials in these threads are always...so predictable…)

But let’s see what else is in these pesky responses to the biased propaganda you posted earlier...

Originally Posted by pxmcc

the facts..

A data-based summary of what research and official statistics say about per-capita crime rates among undocumented (illegal) immigrants vs. U.S. citizens….

bottom line: both legal and illegal immigrants have lower crime rates than U.S. citizens born here. who knew..

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

your stats are meaningless given 30 million are illegal and an order of magnitude 300 million are citizens. of course the larger set has more crime. proves nothing….

How is it that you think yourself qualified to discuss these matters when you don’t seem to understand the difference between “rate” and “magnitude”?

Crime rate. Rate. RATE.

As in “a quantity, amount, or degree of something measured per unit of something else…”

The RATE among these people is less than the RATE among….well, I’ll go back to the poster:

Originally Posted by pxmcc

...bottom line: both legal and illegal immigrants have lower crime rates than U.S. citizens born here….

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[rooster]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

However one wishes to quantify it, that ever the potential for "danger" that a foreign national who is here in contravention of our immigration laws presents to American Society, that "danger" may be eliminated by deporting that person.

the relative degree or frequency of the percieved hazard to the American public is irrelevant.

Irrelevant? Good Christ….

Once again, you chose to present an “argument” that sounds reasonable on its face, but shows your real bias and agenda.

Using your “logic”…the “danger” very likely will decrease...but only because of the decrease in the number of immigrants. And to paraphrase earlier arguments, you’d get a much better result if you could figure out how to get rid of angry white men.

But I digress. Its perfectly FINE if you believe we should just deport more immigrants! For whatever reason. You don’t need to pile onto the thread of the week. Just freakin say it! We’d have more respect than these continuing pretend-reasonable ideas….

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[Turner2099]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

your stats are meaningless given 30 million are illegal and an order of magnitude 300 million are citizens. of course the larger set has more crime. proves nothing about the fact that recent illegal immigration has spiked crime that's fact

You're almost doubling the amount of illegal immigrants in the country. The high side has the number at around 19 million, with roughly 80% being here by 2020, according to the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/how-man...es-2025-update