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Old 02-06-2014, 02:21 PM   #31
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I don't teach newbs...I ridicule them when they say stupid shit...sometimes they learn, sometimes they don't...
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:24 PM   #32
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They're not your S.O. or girlfriend. Nor do they want to be.
They get what they want. $$$
We get what we want, at the agreed to donation.
The "appreciation" is exactly as Yummy Marie states.
Thus, ATF .........
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:24 PM   #33
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Wait....BP....Is that you? It is isn't it?
No. I'm a newbie round these parts. I love the banter like caffeine it gives me a certain Wake-Up type energy. ;-)
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:28 PM   #34
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They're not your S.O. or girlfriend. Nor do they want to be.
They get what they want. $$$
We get what we want, at the agreed to donation.
The "appreciation" is exactly as Yummy Marie states.
Thus, ATF .........
You have a nice ATF. You should be proud. ;-)
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:53 PM   #35
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Proud? Of having an ATF?

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:02 PM   #37
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I love you...
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:05 PM   #39
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Try pulling up on a street walker and asking her to accompany you to a company banquet.
Are there really flocktards stupid enough to invite hooktards to company functions?
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If you're doing as well as you say - why the open anger and hostility towards what other people earn? Who sets the market for what you earn. If you told me your profession I could likely make a case you're overpaid.
I can answer this one.
For most people who earn a high level of income, a comparable level of higher education is implied. Today, that means a Master's or Doctorate degree. Additionally, there is a certain amount of hard work and moving up the ranks to get to that income level. I imagine it would gall anyone who has had to work hard to achieve that income (to say little of the sacrifice involved regarding sleepless nights studying and toiling, damaged relationships from overwork, student loan debt, etcetera) to see someone who is barely functioning at a literate level earn the same amount with little more effort than laying down and spreading their legs.

The fact is that any job that puts the employee in danger, whether legitimate work or not, involves some sort of hazard pay. Escorts command higher rates than their education, training, or business skills allow for, in part due to supply and demand - that particular escort is the only woman in possession of that particular body - there may be more out there like it, but that one is her own... she has the option of sharing it with whoever she wishes, at whatever compensation she deems appropriate; but also, the risks inherent in the work itself. Anyone engaging in this activity runs the risk of being beaten or robbed, but the women involved also carry the risk of being raped, are generally ill-equipped to protect themselves from violence, and, due to the social stigma revolving around this activity, far less likely to achieve any form of justice. The general opinion is that, since she is a whore, she was asking for it, deserved it. Why bother reporting, when it all boils down to a case of he-said-she-said? A jury of peers doesn't include anyone like us.

There are, of course, ladies out there with skill sets, attractiveness, business skills, and education beyond that of the "average hooker," who are able to command higher rates - just as those in legitimate business who are more competitive in their skills and education are able to command more competitive compensation packages. I feel closer to deserving my compensation now than the barely legal version of me did. Do I deserve higher pay than my patrons? Certainly not - at least, not in this profession. Can I command it? Well, anyone can command anything; it is up to their audience if they are willing to accept.

I will say this: I appreciate everyone who walks through my door. I don't need a special day to do so. I care about people, genuinely; if I know someone is going through a rough time, I will worry, or offer any help I can. I especially appreciate those who show me a little extra consideration. I don't expect it, but those people who see me as more than "just a whore," but down to the human woman with educational aspirations and warm, squishy feelings beneath the whore veneer, are generally closer to my inner circle than any "friend list" denizen on normal social media sites.
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I can answer this one.
For most people who earn a high level of income, a comparable level of higher education is implied. Today, that means a Master's or Doctorate degree. Additionally, there is a certain amount of hard work and moving up the ranks to get to that income level. I imagine it would gall anyone who has had to work hard to achieve that income (to say little of the sacrifice involved regarding sleepless nights studying and toiling, damaged relationships from overwork, student loan debt, etcetera) to see someone who is barely functioning at a literate level earn the same amount with little more effort than laying down and spreading their legs.

The fact is that any job that puts the employee in danger, whether legitimate work or not, involves some sort of hazard pay. Escorts command higher rates than their education, training, or business skills allow for, in part due to supply and demand - that particular escort is the only woman in possession of that particular body - there may be more out there like it, but that one is her own... she has the option of sharing it with whoever she wishes, at whatever compensation she deems appropriate; but also, the risks inherent in the work itself. Anyone engaging in this activity runs the risk of being beaten or robbed, but the women involved also carry the risk of being raped, are generally ill-equipped to protect themselves from violence, and, due to the social stigma revolving around this activity, far less likely to achieve any form of justice. The general opinion is that, since she is a whore, she was asking for it, deserved it. Why bother reporting, when it all boils down to a case of he-said-she-said? A jury of peers doesn't include anyone like us.

There are, of course, ladies out there with skill sets, attractiveness, business skills, and education beyond that of the "average hooker," who are able to command higher rates - just as those in legitimate business who are more competitive in their skills and education are able to command more competitive compensation packages. I feel closer to deserving my compensation now than the barely legal version of me did. Do I deserve higher pay than my patrons? Certainly not - at least, not in this profession. Can I command it? Well, anyone can command anything; it is up to their audience if they are willing to accept.

I will say this: I appreciate everyone who walks through my door. I don't need a special day to do so. I care about people, genuinely; if I know someone is going through a rough time, I will worry, or offer any help I can. I especially appreciate those who show me a little extra consideration. I don't expect it, but those people who see me as more than "just a whore," but down to the human woman with educational aspirations and warm, squishy feelings beneath the whore veneer, are generally closer to my inner circle than any "friend list" denizen on normal social media sites.

Amelia - very nice points. I do think that more is being made out of the " Appreciation Day" than what is actually being asked. Let me just say part of the question was more rhetorical for wake-up. He thinks he's winning some argument by venting at my "feedback and audacity" which caused him to actually think about his responses while at the same time claiming victory in the argument. I used to be an internet troll King so all fine by me. Lol. My basic point is that generally speaking we live in a free market society (minus market manipulations another topic) and compensation is given based on the free market regardless of how many years of schooling one may have. Brain and Heart surgeons make far less than top athletes and movie stars, soldiers (who make the ultimate sacrifice) barely get by and all we want to do is honor them with awards and medals but not more pay.

Wakeup is subtly and overtly engaging in classic moral double-speak which is: "A bitch is a bitch and a whore is a whore but a Punter and a John is a stand up kind of guy."

I'm glad you can appreciate the general sentiment. After all my personal goal is to make my encounters the most fun and exciting they can be that's why selection criteria is of utmost importance on both sides.
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:53 PM   #42
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Bitches and whores can be stand up girls too...most of them just aren't...
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Bitches and whores can be stand up girls too...most of them just aren't...
The same could be said for the gents, as well. I think a little benefit of the doubt goes a long way towards achieving a memorable experience.
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Bitches and whores can be stand up girls too...most of them just aren't...
I don't disagree but the 2nd quote in my OP Capital Punter states:

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However, I would extend this further and thank all Escorts. I know some would opine, with good reason, certain Service Providers are not as professional as others. However, I believe in always giving someone the benefit of the doubt first.


Some people have been so kicked about by life, they come over in a different manner from the real person on the inside. If someone shows them consideration, it may be what has been lacking from their interactions prior to this.


I do not say this as part of some noble cause. Merely to say, treat others how you would like to be treated. Then judge them on the reaction, not before.
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Old 02-06-2014, 04:05 PM   #45
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But wait...you're not giving the benefit of the doubt to street walkers...they're unsafe, unhealthy, and not worthy of your attention...
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