Can a review be used as evidence in a prostitution case?

[pyramider]

Bingo.

[Fancyinheels]

Not sure why we're bumping a thread from February, but as long as we're here...

A review doesn't have to be written like a Penthouse Forum fantasy every single frickin' time, but it does have to have enough detail about the WHOLE session to be of use. Discussing other aspects of the date aside from a list of acronyms and how many gymnastic sexual maneuvers were accomplished can interest gentlemen looking for the whole GFE package, and not just a booty call. Not that there's anything wrong with slam-bam-whams, but men are not all looking for the same thing. Believe It or Not, you can write an erotic account without making it sound like gutter groveling (but that will, of course, disappoint some fellows), so therefore it won't be quite so incriminating.

[ShysterJon]

A review can be subtle and non-graphic but still factual and useful. I don't hobby anymore but those who remember my reviews from ASPD might recall they were detailed but they were never a sexually explicit play-by-play of the BCD activities.

How does a hobbyist write a factual yet non-graphic review? Imagination, tact, and word choice.

Also, a review that doesn't give its author points isn't deleted. The author just doesn't get points.

[Randall Creed]

What would a written review prove? Who would possibly try to use this stuff in court?

Hell, I could write one of you right now. I've never met you. A review doesn't necessarily prove either way. For example, I could say, I caressed Fancy's ample tits, and one by one took them into my mouth. I then laid her down and slipped myself inside of her. Blah, blah, blah...and oh yeah, I paid her $500 for such a wonderful time.

Of course, I just whipped that up off the top of my head. Now, if some hotshot lawyer tried to bust you or me in court based on this review it wouldn't fly, for a couple of reasons. One, if any part of it is untrue, then it's all questionable. Two, it DOES NOT PROVE that I paid you 500 bucks for sex NOR does it prove that we physically went through the act.

Any prosecutor who tried to use one of these against any reasonably decent defense, he would be dogmeat.

Now, if there's a situation where there's a pregnancy, for example, then there MIGHT be a case. DNA can prove that two people went through SOME MEASURE of fluid exchange. Backdating the birth of the child can put a proximity time of meeting and possible engagement between the two. It DOESN'T prove money was exchanged, and without this proof, there's nothing to SAY FOR SURE that an act of prostitution took place.

[outoftheblue]

Yes, if she does something to adopt it. That is, ratification of the review.

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by ShysterJon

A review can be subtle and non-graphic but still factual and useful. I don't hobby anymore but those who remember my reviews from ASPD might recall they were detailed but they were never a sexually explicit play-by-play of the BCD activities.

How does a hobbyist write a factual yet non-graphic review? Imagination, tact, and word choice....

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Waldo P. Emerson-Jones

Thanks SJ. As a matter of practice rather than theoretical law, have you ever seen or heard of a review being used against the defendant in a prostitution case?

I've seen computer conversations proved up as admissions with the person creating them identified as the defendant in the case. I have also seen text conversations offered as evidence to the opposing side and it compelled an amicable resolution of the case.

Someone should probably explain what the difference is between a "review" on Eccie and text messaging or posting messages with "handles" on the internet. With today's technology the communications are gathered in real time with the sources identified.

I commented here, because this chain of posts is being offered as "proof" of the response to another thread. There is no point in "candy coating it," because it can mislead some folks who seek legal advice on a hooker board.

[Wile E Coyote]

I am no lawyer, but even when a nickname used, all people can be personally identified by their I.P address that LE can trace back to a person that pays the internet/cell phone bill. Even if you use a "hobby phone", you still have to pay for it. LE can get the text messages from a provider's cell, trace the number back to the phone company, who will gladly tell them where and when the phone/minutes for the phone was purchased from and all stores have cameras.


The ONLY sure fire way to not get caught is by quitting altogether, that includes posting on a SHMB.

[dfwtallwmafdom]

To hide your IP address, get a VPN that you pay for in a crypto currency, either tumbled bitcoin for more anonymity or something like Monero with strong privacy features. Use an overseas encrypted email provider. Alternatively, use free wifi hotspots cause you know random small coffee shop with a consumer grade router is not going to have decent logs about who was there at what time. There's plenty of ways to have some anonymity online or at least enough that it's such a pain in the ass to chase you that they won't bother.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I've seen computer conversations proved up as admissions with the person creating them identified as the defendant in the case. I have also seen text conversations offered as evidence to the opposing side and it compelled an amicable resolution of the case.

You've "seen" "computer conversations" (I guess you're referring to emails, chats, and PMs) admitted into evidence in plain-vanilla prostitution trials in North Texas? If yes, please give details because I still haven't heard of such a thing. If you're talking about something else, tell us so. Also, please tell us the sources of your knowledge.

btw, what would be your rate for sitting in prostitution trials in North Texas (which you apparently do) and giving me summaries?

[Buckwiser]

Originally Posted by ShysterJon

You've "seen" "computer conversations" (I guess you're referring to emails, chats, and PMs) admitted into evidence in plain-vanilla prostitution trials in North Texas? If yes, please give details because I still haven't heard of such a thing.

Now that buying or offering to buy sex in Texas is a state jail felony (post 9/1) there will be no more "plain vanilla" prostitution trials anywhere in Texas.

Lawyers will be the only winners in any prostitution case going forward. Fewer laws = fewer lawyers. More laws = more lawyers.

[playerplano]

This is still a conversation worth having and we can all decide for ourselves who has credibility lol. This wasn’t Texas but I believe there was a case in California where reviews were used to prosecute John’s , although I also think most were dismissed or reduced charges. In April 2021 Manhattan announced they will no longer prosecute prostitution. Because “ criminally prosecuting prostitution doesn’t make us safer and often achieves the opposite by further marginalizing vulnerable New Yorkers . “

Again not Texas but useful in the conversation. Texas is headed in totally the wrong direction and perhaps the California case would be instructional for Texas ? And before anyone asks I’m not in the legal profession but I did sleep last night lol.

[Ralph Fults]

Originally Posted by playerplano

This is still a conversation worth having and we can all decide for ourselves who has credibility lol. This wasn’t Texas but I believe there was a case in California where reviews were used to prosecute John’s , although I also think most were dismissed or reduced charges. In April 2021 Manhattan announced they will no longer prosecute prostitution. Because “ criminally prosecuting prostitution doesn’t make us safer and often achieves the opposite by further marginalizing vulnerable New Yorkers . “

Again not Texas but useful in the conversation. Texas is headed in totally the wrong direction and perhaps the California case would be instructional for Texas ? And before anyone asks I’m not in the legal profession but I did sleep last night lol.

You might be thinking of the shutdown of Redbook about 7 years ago.

[Pangolier]

If they can prove who the author of the review is, and it contains incriminating information, then it could be used in court. Whether the defendant could argue that the review was fictitious would be something for a jury to decide. Don't think you'll see a prosecution based solely on a review alone.