CNN Doc says "the science has changed"!

[bambino]

�� SWEDEN: Officially declared that the COVID-19 pandemic is “over” and announced that it will be lifting all remaining restrictions. @Forecast432Hz
https://summit.news/2022/02/09/swede...ic-to-be-over/

[Yssup Rider]

They never acknowledged the pandemic to begin with. So how is this supporting your claim ?

You should move there. They love their climate science. And as you’ve pointed out, science can’t change.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

...still slicing and dicing the numbers to justify your interpretation of the covid numbers to mollify the fact that you fell for it hook, line and sinker?!?

Hey, we all fall for the random scam once in a while. It's OK so long as your learn from it.




Honk, Honk!






Let's Go Brandon

Everything I’ve read indicated the vaccines and boosters were 85% to 95% effective at preventing death. If you chose to get your immunity through infection instead then more power to you. It’s not the smartest thing to do but it’s a free country.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Everything I’ve read indicated the vaccines and boosters were 85% to 95% effective at preventing death. If you chose to get your immunity through infection instead then more power to you. It’s not the smartest thing to do but it’s a free country.

The chances of dying from the covid is <0.1% for most age groups. Even at the worst age group it's like 1%, maybe a stretch goal of 2% if one is entirely unwell..

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

The chances of dying from the covid is <0.1% for most age groups. Even at the worst age group it's like 1%, maybe a stretch goal of 2% if one is entirely unwell..

It was 2% at around 65, and double digits for people in their 80’s. Vaccinations, previous infections, better treatment and the predominance of the less fatal Omicron variant mean those numbers should be much lower now. I’d think it would still be higher than 2% if you’re entirely unwell and old.

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... So .... ... - we're all in a panic WHY?!

just askin'

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[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Because your insurance rates will go up and because as a taxpayer you'll have to shell out at some point for all those unvaxxed people who were on Medicare, Medicaid and Obamacare?




Because almost everyone has had COVID and/or gotten vaccinated so they have some immunity? And it's time to get back to normal?

Tiny, the point being that the CDC did not change their recommendation but the Democrats are now ignoring the science if by science they mean what the CDC and Fauci believes.


If following the CDC guidelines were so damn important to the Democrats, what other reason could there be to abandon their advice NOW? The CDC and Fauci HAVE NOT SAID IT'S TIME TO RETURN TO NORMAL but the polls have.


Tiny, I believe history will show that very little "common sense" has been shown from the beginning. Irrational fear is what has driven this not common sense in my opinion.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Tiny, the point being that the CDC did not change their recommendation but the Democrats are now ignoring the science if by science they mean what the CDC and Fauci believes...

The only science they actually care about is the polling science that is telling them that their gravy train is barreling over the demolished bridge at Widow Maker Mountain.

What a train wreck.

[Jacuzzme]

They went from ‘long cold winter of death’ to ‘um, nevermind’ in one CNN poll.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

The only science they actually care about is the polling science that is telling them that their gravy train is barreling over the demolished bridge at Widow Maker Mountain.

What a train wreck.

And there seem to be a few people who don't believe that when it couldn't be more obvious. The CDC, the Bible of the Left, says we don't recommend dropping mask mandates but the Democrat Governor's do it anyway.


The science didn't say drop the mask mandates, the data didn't say, Biden didn't say it and yet they did.


This couldn't be more obvious or more make more "common sense".

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

The chances of dying from the covid is <0.1% for most age groups. Even at the worst age group it's like 1%, maybe a stretch goal of 2% if one is entirely unwell..

Assume the population for most age groups is 300 million people. If the death rate is .1% for this group then number of deaths is 300,000 people. It takes Influenza_A 7 years to kill 300,000 people.

The USA has a lot of seniors or people over age 60. There are 900,000 deaths right now. This number is going to increase some. You only have 200 million double vaccinated people. So, there is anywhere from 50 to 75 million who are not vaccinated and don't have any type of immunity. The omicron variant is more transmissible and easier to catch. The two shot vaccines are the best defense. The Regeneron monoclonal antibodies don't work against the omnicron variant. Best plan for survival is to get double vaccinated. If SARS_CoV_2 gets into your lungs and you don't make the antibody for it, the ballgame is over. Unfortunately the ballgame has already ended for 900,000 plus people.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...19-spread-map/

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Assume the population for most age groups is 300 million people. If the death rate is .1% for this group then number of deaths is 300,000 people. It takes Influenza_A 7 years to kill 300,000 people.

The USA has a lot of seniors or people over age 60. There are 900,000 deaths right now. This number is going to increase some. You only have 200 million double vaccinated people. So, there is anywhere from 50 to 75 million who are not vaccinated and don't have any type of immunity. The omicron variant is more transmissible and easier to catch. The two shot vaccines are the best defense. The Regeneron monoclonal antibodies don't work against the omnicron variant. Best plan for survival is to get double vaccinated. If SARS_CoV_2 gets into your lungs and you don't make the antibody for it, the ballgame is over. Unfortunately the ballgame has already ended for 900,000 plus people.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...19-spread-map/

as usual you misrepresent the facts. the "official" death count is grossly exaggerated. by as much as a factor of 10. i'll give you a factor 5 so the real death count is less than 500,000. now consider the number who died of only COVID and nothing else.


what is that number? 100,000? maybe 200,000? we will never know because as Fauci the fraud himself recently admitted there is no spike in hospitalizations of children due to COVID. any hospitalization where a positive COVID test (which as we all know now is so inaccurate as to be useless) is being counted as a "COVID hospitalization". that's false and you know it.


now to your comment omicron is more transmissible .. yet you leave out the fact that it is proving far less deadly. it's less deadly by a factor of 3 to 4. again .. you know that.


you also omit the fact that natural immunity is as much as 5 to 6 times more effective than the vaccine. and yet you yell "VAX!!" you are a parrot of the very liars who lied to you. don't be such a fool.


and of course .. the exposure rate is far greater than is known. as much as 10 times what the testing (worthless as it is) shows. so crunch your numbers and guess what you get?


herd immunity.


until a few years ago 70% was considered by decades of research as the threshold of herd immunity. then, it "suddenly" went up. it was now 85%. then 90%. without any science at all to back it up. the reason is obvious .. push the VAX!!!!


how many of the 50 to 70 million un-vaxxed have natural immunity? 50%? 70%?


herd immunity.

only the VAX will save you! the untested VAX that is now being shown to have large scale side effects. that the manufacturers have been granted a 75 YEAR delay in publishing any data. no mater they'll fudge that. and no lawsuits either.



you believe the lies of liars.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

as usual you misrepresent the facts. the "official" death count is grossly exaggerated. by as much as a factor of 10. i'll give you a factor 5 so the real death count is less than 500,000. now consider the number who died of only COVID and nothing else.


You can count better than the CDC and John Hopkins?

what is that number? 100,000? maybe 200,000? we will never know because as Fauci the fraud himself recently admitted there is no spike in hospitalizations of children due to COVID. any hospitalization where a positive COVID test (which as we all know now is so inaccurate as to be useless) is being counted as a "COVID hospitalization". that's false and you know it.

Hospitalizations/ total cases may be off but not the deaths. There aren't that many children dying from CoVid. If they had to put you on a ventilator then you had CoVid. Only the spike protein from SARS_CoV_2 can bind with lung protein ace2. Which is how it gets into your lungs.


now to your comment omicron is more transmissible .. yet you leave out the fact that it is proving far less deadly. it's less deadly by a factor of 3 to 4. again .. you know that.

It's less deadly because the two shot vaccines provide good protection against the omicron variant. Two hundred million people have been double vaccinated in the USA

you also omit the fact that natural immunity is as much as 5 to 6 times more effective than the vaccine. and yet you yell "VAX!!" you are a parrot of the very liars who lied to you. don't be such a fool.

If there is no vaccine and all 300 million people get infected with CoVid you would have anywhere from 3 to 6 million deaths. Point is not everyone is going to get natural immunity.

and of course .. the exposure rate is far greater than is known. as much as 10 times what the testing (worthless as it is) shows. so crunch your numbers and guess what you get?


herd immunity.


until a few years ago 70% was considered by decades of research as the threshold of herd immunity. then, it "suddenly" went up. it was now 85%. then 90%. without any science at all to back it up. the reason is obvious .. push the VAX!!!!


how many of the 50 to 70 million un-vaxxed have natural immunity? 50%? 70%?

We can agree that 50 - 70 million un-vaxxed 50% will probably have natural immunity. The ratio of known cases to asymptomatics appears to be 1 to 1.

herd immunity.

only the VAX will save you! the untested VAX that is now being shown to have large scale side effects. that the manufacturers have been granted a 75 YEAR delay in publishing any data. no mater they'll fudge that. and no lawsuits either.



you believe the lies of liars.

Death Count -

You will give a factor of 5? LOL You have a link to back up your theory. The CDC, John Hopkins, USA Facts, everyone has a death count of 900,000 for the USA EXCEPT you. The CDC has a CoVid death count of 912,000. This is there number not my number!

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...tatracker-home

HERD Immunity -

You are wrong about what you said regarding HERD Immunity. HERD Immunity varies by virus. For measles virus its 95%. For polio virus it's 80% of population would have to get it and survive to protect the rest of the herd.

Herd Immunity is more difficult to achieve for a virus that mutates. For Influenza_A virus it mutates once a year. A new vaccine is available every October. SARS_CoV-2 virus is mutating at a quicker pace right now. There have been about six mutations over 24 month period. IF SARS_CoV_2 will behave like Influenza_A remains to be seen.

https://www.who.int/news-room/questi...s-and-covid-19

[bambino]

https://t.me/rrndaily/187994

[Salty Again]

... Even the joeys are questioning the mandates.

It surely seem almost as many kids dying from the vax
as are dying from co-vid.

Thanks, Dr. Fauci...

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