From A LEGIT Hookers POV

[OLindsay]

Originally Posted by Wizard of Ahhhhs

Not arguing with nine, but I like zeejoe's picture post better! Yum, Gemma!

Damn Gemma�� I need to get better���� ��u look yummy ��������can u come take care of me now?? I bet that might speed up my recovery������

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

The above being said, should there be problems with safety, cleanliness or negative attitude (you can make a long list if you like) that affected the encounter; a negative review would serve to advise others of a problem that they may wish to avoid.
The flip side of this question is the I have seen by some guys who have the obvious intention of harming a ladies business.
Recently I met a young lady for the first time. We had started to relax, when I asked if she would tell me about her baby. Hold the train while she brings out the pictures and talks about the most important thing in
JR

I find it interesting how such a learned man with "several degrees" has once again contradicted himself. If you encounter a "negative attitude" you submit that a "a negative review would serve to advise others of a problem that they may wish to avoid." However when one of these other "guys" encounters a less than "perfect encounter", they are not entitled to the same options as you are?

Tell us who these "guys" are..Tell us where are these "unjustified negative reviews" are, and could you please explain the following statement: "Just because the lady might not have met his demands for a perfect encounter is not a reason to attack her in a public discussion." I can't find this "attack" anywhere in "public". I thought the ROS was in PRIVATE? I would very much like to know where this "attack" is so I too can endeavor to defend this poor mysterious provider or is it providers whom you refer to?

Here's hoping you warned your recent encounter about your penchant for outing personal info.

Regards,
MW

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

Huh?
I am confused by what a Recommendation means?
I thought it meant:"would you see this hooker again?

so if a lady had tats(which you dont like)
isnt smart(which you dont like)
youd see her again?
and thus give a Recommendation YES
or you'd not see her again and still give a yes, because???
Makes me think of Consumer reports and how they give ratings and Recommendations

never do they say, I'd never use this product because of X Y Z, but I recommend you buy it!

Maybe I can explain it by giving you a different example.

From time to time I have been invited to participate in a product evaluation, the usual pay is a token for your time of $100. Because I was a guy, of the right age, I joined a group. After we were all there we were given five pressurized cans of shaving cream and instructed on how to rate each of the products. OK, I can do that. This is interesting.

What I didn't tell them was that I quit using shaving cream in a can over 50 years ago. I think I get a much better shave, and a more comfortable shave from the soap in a mug with a shaving brush.

Did that stop me from evaluating each can of shaving cream against each other? I didn't think so.

I gave each can a well thought out evaluation. But, I didn't think any of them performed as well as the mug soap; I still use the mug soap for shaving. As an added value, Mug soap is very much cheaper to use than the canned shaving cream.

The final thought: it would not have been fair for the survey to compare the canned shaving cream to the mug soap when I already knew that my prejudice was for mug soap.

JR

[skbinks]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Hmmm good post. And I agree. If i'm selling cars and I advertise jaguars but I actually sell hyundais would you still buy my Hyundai and give me a yes review ?? Depends on the sales pitch, yes?

Also depends on what extras you're throwing in with the sale.

Some of us are suckers for a lady with a great smile and boots. ......oh sorry, the boots might just be me.

[Guest013121]

Ok but did the soap in a mug and the cans of shaving cream accurately advertise themselves??... Or were they using photos of a sexier, more reputable brand such as Dove?? I don't give a shit how good they prove to be bcd, the most important part of this job is marketing and advertising as well as proving to be reputable and honest. False advertising shows me a hooker is dirty, unreliable, dishonest and most times fat or uaf (ugly as fuck)... But that's just me. Just know that if you are one of these types of clients that gives yes reviews to these bogus hookers, you will have a hard time earning the respect of other hobbyists. I also won't see anybody that participates in this crap. Nor will I ever accept them bb's (bogus bishes) as references. And I DO, do my research.

[skbinks]

Well said gemma34. Before my one and only (so far) friend, twice i went to see a couple of others. I turned around and went home on both of them. Their pictures were not of them and along with other things, I didn't feel comfortable. I felt that I could save money and take care of myself. It was a lot safer that way too.

I learned to research after that.

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Ok but did the soap in a mug and the cans of shaving cream accurately advertise themselves??... Or were they using photos of a sexier, more reputable brand such as Dove??

Careful Gemma...If you happen to pick an non-JR approved mug soap you too will be accused of a "public attack"..

Originally Posted by skbinks

Well said gemma34. Before my one and only (so far) friend, twice i went to see a couple of others. I turned around and went home on both of them. Their pictures were not of them and along with other things, I didn't feel comfortable. I felt that I could save money and take care of myself.

Thank goodness you didn't launch a "public attack" on the two that you got a negative vibe from. A negative vibe or bad attitude is only legit if JR say's so.
You NEVER want to pick the wrong soap as that would mean you are intentionally picking on one that has been approved by the CEO of Hobbyworld..

[Unique_Carpenter]

Other than being amused by some of the above, what's in my mug is a cold beer, (or a rocks glass which usually has whisky), as advertised.
If it's beer and if it's cold, and as advertised, I'm a happy camper. Afterall, it's rather easy to make sure it's nice and frosty beforehand.
And, if there's a nice selection already in the cooler, it's rare to even think about adding another. But on that rare ocassion, I find it rather easy to determine if the mug will be filled nicely.
Last, on occasion a prior favorite sometimes reappears, and that can be a very refreshing fully enjoyable mug.
Btw, I quite enjoy a Guinness as well.
My bad if the discussion was about something else.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Ok but did the soap in a mug and the cans of shaving cream accurately advertise themselves??... Or were they using photos of a sexier, more reputable brand such as Dove?? I don't give a shit how good they prove to be bcd, the most important part of this job is marketing and advertising as well as proving to be reputable and honest. False advertising shows me a hooker is dirty, unreliable, dishonest and most times fat or uaf (ugly as fuck)... But that's just me. Just know that if you are one of these types of clients that gives yes reviews to these bogus hookers, you will have a hard time earning the respect of other hobbyists. I also won't see anybody that participates in this crap. Nor will I ever accept them bb's (bogus bishes) as references. And I DO, do my research.

Totally agree. In my example above, I do remember the shave cream that I rated last was really bad. It was greasy and left an oily film all over my face, and I said so.

JR

[Guest100615]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Ok but did the soap in a mug and the cans of shaving cream accurately advertise themselves??... Or were they using photos of a sexier, more reputable brand such as Dove?? I don't give a shit how good they prove to be bcd, the most important part of this job is marketing and advertising as well as proving to be reputable and honest. False advertising shows me a hooker is dirty, unreliable, dishonest and most times fat or uaf (ugly as fuck)... But that's just me. Just know that if you are one of these types of clients that gives yes reviews to these bogus hookers, you will have a hard time earning the respect of other hobbyists. I also won't see anybody that participates in this crap. Nor will I ever accept them bb's (bogus bishes) as references. And I DO, do my research.

UAF that is a new acronym for me and I love it.

If a provider is fake using fake pics and is UAF and you give a yes review then you are the bish and offer nothing to this community.

[zeejoe]

JR, you blew your secret identity with that post- i saw the commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waT5asnBXdI

[skbinks]

Originally Posted by zeejoe

JR, you blew your secret identity with that post- i saw the commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waT5asnBXdI

LOL. Maybe he should change his handle to "Wet Willie"

[JackJohnson]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Then, to add insult to injury, you slaphappy push-overs do a fuckin review on the bogus hooker with a YES recommendation. The next thing I know, I see all these photo-robbing skanks on P411 and datecheck and alas they then bring their fabricated ads and pics to Eccie because

OH YES, "photo robbing skanks" So Gemma.... So awesome... so made me spritz my screen.

I agree with some of the points above as to why it happens... I'll add a couple.

1) DRAMA - have you seen the Drama a NO review causes around here? You can't simply pass information (the point of the site) without that drama passing the Drama police, leading to threads where folks feel the need to defend themselves... personally If I give a No (and I have) I don't care, but lots of folks who use this as a social media site do... so...they review since they got service anyway, which isn't always a bad thing, and then just move on.

NOTE: To providers, you want to encourage NO reviews, help out stopping the drama when it happens, or take a review as a review to improve yourself as a businesswoman and move on.

2) WELL I'M HERE - for some folks, setting up an appointment, making excuses if you're married to get out, etc etc is a big investment of time and energy (especially the selection process, menu choices, etc). When guys arrive, and the girl is "kinda close" or they just want to get laid anyway (have you seen some of the girls advertising who obviously get clients? skank right).. and to each their own. But that's how it happens, you build up expectation for a service, have an emotional investment in the process, and you follow through for closure. We've all been there either in or out of the hobby... well I have anyway (that girl at the end of the night that suddenly got cuter and more communicative after a few)...

NOTE: To providers, you want to stop this practice, you'll have to change the nature of the male sex drive... good luck with that.

I do disagree with some of this though, clients can choose to give their money to whomever hey want. If it impacts some other girl's marketing, that's literally their problem. We're not your marketing police, we're guys trying to pay some woman for their time and companionship. Short term expectations are high on the list, not some long term view of the health of marketing for escorts in general, or one in particular.

If it takes money out of some girls pocket, it has no impact to us, because you were going to extract that money anyway. You can make all the appeals you want to WHY they shouldn't, but unless you're prepared in all cases to drop everything and head off to fill in after they get found out, then many times guys will simply go through with the deal. Unfortunate, but see above.

Sure maybe it isn't cool to providers... but, again... it's the client's money... we'll spend it where we want. That's our job. Marketing and making sure we want to see you? That's your job. Some invest more in it than others.

You could try sending cease and desist letters, although getting an address would be not an easy thing (although if you succeeded, you'd freak them out and probably prove a point). There are plenty of aggressive legal strategies you could apply with the right creative person pulling the strings.

Maybe we need a "fake pics" section where providers can alert folks... (although we do have that alert section.....)

At some point though, such issues are just one of the many difficulties that providers in a quasi legal activity face, and becomes another reason to support legalization. (preaching to the choir here). So that these things could be properly stopped.

I'm done... thanks for listening all

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by zeejoe

JR, you blew your secret identity with that post- i saw the commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waT5asnBXdI

Sorry,

I have a willie, but I am not Willie. But, I have been audited by the IRS; strange people.

JR

[Mizzou82]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Point Of View, NOT Personally Owned Vehicle! lol

This topic right here really irks megood topic. I have ever changing ideas of what is best for me in this regard. I want to provide information as well as get it here and it is always better if it is honest.. It makes no sense to me and probably never will, but I witnessed it happen again today and needless to say, I couldn't hold back....

Please note, I'm serious when I ask this, WTF is wrong with some of you guys?? You have been baited-n-switched, yet you still do a review with a 'YES' recommendation? Been a long time since I saw a provider I did not know for sure was who she said she was. How ever, unless she rips me off or otherwise acts in a way that guys need to be alerted to for their safety or $, I just don't review her. Essentially, you have been lied to and played for a fool... sigh.. I'm genuinely befuddled. Most Guys respond with, "I was thinking with my little head" or "She was really nice even though the pics were not of her' or "She used fake pics for security reasons" Buuuulllshit. Bullshit bullshit. Like I said, I don't give a yes review when not happy with a session. The main reason I don't do a "no" review is that on the first site I joined, I got a tremendous amount of shit for giving a "no" review. I am talking scared shitless of her doing something to harm or out me, not just getting shit in a chat room. That is not why I was on the board and not why I hobby.Then, to add insult to injury, you slaphappy push-overs do a fuckin review on the bogus hooker with a YES recommendation. Not me, I either give an alert if warranted or do not write a review. If I see an ISO or a request for info in the Men's lounge, I send a PM with my truthful account of why I would not see her again. The next thing I know, I see all these photo-robbing skanks on P411 and datecheck and alas they then bring their fabricated ads and pics to Eccie because, obviously, some guys here give these bogus hookers glowing endorsements, sooo.. why not?! lol I have seen 1 provider multiple times that does not use her own pics. She had tats that would out her and she uses stolen pics that she meets or exceeds as far as attractiveness. I understand that is a very small fraction of the girls using fake pics. I have left several times when the girl was too far from her ad pics and too far from what I am attracted to


Am I missing something? Anyone??..

I don't write no reviews and don't give yes reviews just for the fuck of it if I would not see her again, so I am careful with what I comment on (unlike some who comment even though they have done very few or no reviews) So I would say what your missing is this- guys have to write reviews or pay $ to keep full membership, guys don't hobby to catch any hassles from girls for any reason, "no" reviews do cause problems, I wish it was not so. There are girls I would give a "no" review but I don't because I hobby for fun and there is nothing fun about a woman scorned. I do want the girls I enjoy to be successful. I enjoy giving "yes" reviews to help her build her reputation and make more money. So my deal with myself, to save grief, is give truthful and positive reviews (only after asking if OK), warn privately any member who asks about a girl I would not see again, and only open myself up to hassle if an alert will keep other members safe.

My guess is that most of the reviews that piss you off are from guys who need to get premium access and don't want any hassle from a provider who gets pissed that you hurt her business.