A Question For The Ladies

[essence]

Originally Posted by TheCat'sMeow

The world isn't so messy as long as you avoid the drama,,,But you are telling us that you enjoy it,,,The real world doesn't play silly SD and SB games,,,People take care of business and move on to other things that matter the most once the desires subside.

If you need three hours of cock in pussy, then work for a porn company,,,Did you use the half blue pill or swallowed the whole one?,,,I think most of those three hours were spent talking.

Y'all so damned serious! By messy I mean complicated, I didn;t mean dramatic. The 3 hour thing was a joke, which seems to go over your and dorthy's heads.

It was 30 min daty, i hour fucking, 1 sec ejaculation, 15 mins sleeping, 10 mins daty, 30 mins fucking, 0.5 secs ejaculation, 15 mins sleeping, hour lunch, hour shopping (didn;t buy anything apart from some biscuits), 10 mins daty, 30 mins fucking, come again.

Or thereabouts, I didn;t have a stop watch.

Together from 11 am to 6 pm.

Now, how long does that take in total?

Recovery for a week, then we meet again.

We have agreed allowance of $600 per month, but I haven;t given her anything yet.

I have chatted with many girls for whom $600 per month is fine.

No, I don't take any pills. She is 25.

[essence]

Another example of how it is difficult to categorise, girl in my avatar I met as an escort, then I became her only client, then it became more of a friendship, I rented a flat for her at one time. She then became very ill, and is still many years later in poor health.

It is the 'little boxes' which I am trying to counter.

[TheCat'sMeow]

Originally Posted by essence

Y'all so damned serious! By messy I mean complicated, I didn;t mean dramatic. The 3 hour thing was a joke, which seems to go over your and dorthy's heads.

It was 30 min daty, i hour fucking, 1 sec ejaculation, 15 mins sleeping, 10 mins daty, 30 mins fucking, 0.5 secs ejaculation, 15 mins sleeping, hour lunch, hour shopping (didn;t buy anything apart from some biscuits), 10 mins daty, 30 mins fucking, come again.

Or thereabouts, I didn;t have a stop watch.

Together from 11 am to 6 pm.

Now, how long does that take in total?

Recovery for a week, then we meet again.

We have agreed allowance of $600 per month, but I haven;t given her anything yet.

I have chatted with many girls for whom $600 per month is fine.

No, I don't take any pills. She is 25.

From your wishy washy statements alone we can determine that you are full of it,,,You are the ultimate drama gramp.

[essence]

wanker

[Victoria of Houston]

Originally Posted by JV82

I've searched the SD/SB threads but have yet to see a specific answer to my question, so here goes. I see some escort ads that list "long term arrangements" and "sugar baby" in the same ad. My question is what, exactly, is the difference?

Sir, there is no definitive answer. How can you have set in stone rules and regulations for something like this? If you are interested in entering into any kind of arrangement with a lady, I would suggest speaking with her directly to find out if her offerings can fit your desires and leave it at that.

[essence]

Originally Posted by Victoria of Houston

Sir, there is no definitive answer. How can you have set in stone rules and regulations for something like this? If you are interested in entering into any kind of arrangement with a lady, I would suggest speaking with her directly to find out if her offerings can fit your desires and leave it at that.

Perfect answer, polite and to the point. I'm sorry if I was a bit more long winded.

I go through the following steps when using seekingarrangement:

- look through the pics to find those of my type.
- read the profiles
- reject any that say they want to be treated like princesses, want substantial lifestyle, want gifts and holidays and allowance.
- reject any that are not polite, any that use phrases like 'only serious sd's please, no time wasters'. It isn't good, same as first ads on Eccie.
- this now leaves about 10 I am interested in, out of many thousands (I live in london).
- send a short message, reveal my private photos, say something pertinent from their profile. Ask them where they live in London (it is a big place).
- reject any that reply with 'yeah' or monosyllabic.
- reject any that immediately start with 'what is your budget'.
- reject any that say 'I do pay per meet'.
- reject any that, from pics or messages, indicate they are a little immature. Note, there are plenty of mature 18 yr olds.
- OK, now I am down to maybe two or three. Start to chat a bit more, preferably away from SA and on whatsapp. Get more personal (but nothing explicit). Be clear about budget and the fact that you are willing and able to help with bills, but don;t ever imply this is sex for money, they will run a mile.
- invite for a coffee or lunch. Sometimes this can take a week or two to arrange, particularly if they are busy (which is a good sign - they are working and/or studying, which is a pre requisite for me).
- at the first meeting, judge on reliability (was she late? If late, did she apologise?).
- half of those I meet I end up in bed with either on the same day or soon after. i actually prefer, and so does the girl, to go to bed on about a third date.
- spend all day in bed and give them plenty of tongue and cock.

Repeat all the above every couple of months or so, depending how it goes. It may be that I don;t find anybody to go to bed with for several months. That's fine. I'm not desparate.

Above all, treat them as human beings and as dates who need to be respected and seduced, not an arrangement or transaction.

Sorry for being so long winded again. but maybe it helps somebody.

[Victoria of Houston]

Originally Posted by essence

Perfect answer, polite and to the point. I'm sorry if I was a bit more long winded.



Sorry for being so long winded again. but maybe it helps somebody.

Hehe, no need to apologize. I think you're right; I've been doing this for a while now, sometimes I can't believe how long I have, lols. ( Creeping up on 8 years here, on and off.)

I forget how scary and weird it can be as a newb, Not saying you are, but in general.

Sometimes I see the different questions people ask on the board and I'm like, "Was I ever that green?"

I'm sure I was, I just don't remember, lol.


Anywhos, it sounds like you have a great mindset, "plan of action" when it comes to hobbying. I wish more gents operated under the same set of principles.

[JV82]

Originally Posted by TheCat'sMeow

It's always about the control in that kind of an "arrangement",,,Money is best arranged by the minute/hour. Mixing business with pleasure isn't professional at all.

Originally Posted by TheCat'sMeow

FWB means no money is involved and SBs are not that,,,A mistress is a whore playing fantasy wife,,, You are living in denial if you think SBs are relationship candidates and are not paid whores.

Take it down a notch. Both involve money and neither are relationship candidates. I already have a SO and not looking to change it. I know the difference between fwb, provider, and SB, and I said that a true SB is a mistress, which is closer to being a fwb than is a long term arrangement with a provider. There is no denial going on here. My experience with providers and SBs taught me that there are indeed similarities and differences, but a true SB/SD arrangement is much different than a long term arrangement with a provider. I was asking the providers that advertise both LTR and SB for their own perspective.

[TheCat'sMeow]

Originally Posted by JV82

Take it down a notch. Both involve money and neither are relationship candidates. I already have a SO and not looking to change it. I know the difference between fwb, provider, and SB, and I said that a true SB is a mistress, which is closer to being a fwb than is a long term arrangement with a provider. There is no denial going on here. My experience with providers and SBs taught me that there are indeed similarities and differences, but a true SB/SD arrangement is much different than a long term arrangement with a provider. I was asking the providers that advertise both LTR and SB for their own perspective.

FWB can be relationship-based that does not involve the exchange of money and non-hobby dates,,,In other words, you are seeing 9-5 women that want to have fun (conversation, hanging out, or fucking) but don't want to date or get paid for it,,,It's apparently a novelty to engage in real FWB action in Houston, but trust me it does happen elsewhere,,,A SB is not a mistress per se which means that one woman is sticking with one suitor because one she isn't a whore, second she isn't a sugar baby that has a roster of SDs lined up, and third she actually wants to have a relationship with the suitor and in fact considers herself as a common wife (some even have children with their suitors),,,Long-term arrangements with providers are what we call "regulars",,,When they become relationship-based, then they are becoming more like SB types in which they are paid whores that see other men but also give more of their time to certain men,,,FWB is completely civilian with no money exchanged period. The average swinger girl can be FBW.

[essence]

Originally Posted by Victoria of Houston

I forget how scary and weird it can be as a newb, Not saying you are, but in general.

Not at all. Been around for a long time, back in 2002 or so with ASPD, did a lot of dating of dancers back then, still dating one of them now.

I really really hate it when people put peeps into boxes. Take an example - I have dated long term maybe 5 dancers, they were all entirely different.

I have dated escorts too, and become friends. KLK, Leo the good one, I have been Ryanised.

Miaow is still trying to write dictionary definitions, which is completely pointless.

[TheCat'sMeow]

Originally Posted by essence

Not at all. Been around for a long time, back in 2002 or so with ASPD, did a lot of dating of dancers back then, still dating one of them now.

I really really hate it when people put peeps into boxes. Take an example - I have dated long term maybe 5 dancers, they were all entirely different.

I have dated escorts too, and become friends. KLK, Leo the good one, I have been Ryanised.

Miaow is still trying to write dictionary definitions, which is completely pointless.

Dude you never have dated any of those "paid" whores,,,They were financial transactions that dragged out into drama zone,,,You really should try meeting women outside of the business to get a taste of FWB is all about. It's very much different than the hobby. I've done both and they are apples and oranges in comparison.

[essence]

Originally Posted by TheCat'sMeow

Dude you never have dated any of those "paid" whores,,,They were financial transactions that dragged out into drama zone,,,You really should try meeting women outside of the business to get a taste of FWB is all about. It's very much different to the hobby. I've done both and they are apples and oranges in comparison.

Whatever. Why are you here?

[TheCat'sMeow]

Originally Posted by essence

Whatever. Why are you here?

I was about to ask you the same question,,,You make yourself out to be a stud who can easily get a woman by your charms and your experience with the opposite sex so why even bother with these hourly whores?

My preference is to avoid BSC.

[essence]

Originally Posted by TheCat'sMeow

so why even bother with these hourly whores?

I don't. I'm only here for the entertainment.

We may have more in common than you can ever imagine.

[TheCat'sMeow]

Originally Posted by essence

I don't. I'm only here for the entertainment.

We may have more in common than you can ever imagine.

You can say that again about the entertainment part,,,You are definitely more serious about other activities besides hobbying.