Worth a read, folks. Maybe it isn't your fault, but it's your responsibility to fix this!

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Old-T

It is not working well. But neither was it working well before they tried to control it. Segregated schools were a reality. School districts like parts of Rockland county in NY are wealthy, but some of the scools are a mess because local school boards syphon large amounts of the $ to the orthodox Jewish schools. Albuquerque NM has overpaid about 4 in a row superintendents obscene salaries and then had to buy them out after they were one embarrasment after another--telling the teachers they couldn't give reasonable raises becase so much money was going to pay the superentendents. Florida school districts that just a few years ago were still using books from the 1980s for "current events". Louisiana schools where "God is great" was the correct fill-in-the-blank answer to a biology test question--just a few examples of the greatness of "local control".

So tell me, how to we take out the feds from education yet avoid Brown vs Board of Education, the Sequel? It ain't that simple, and removing fed oversight is a far cry from the whole answer.

The Brown case will still be in effect if the Feds get out of education like they should. There is no Constitutional basis for federal involvement in education. The Court ruled on equal access to public services. Different issue.


Good or bad, local control is where it belongs. Overall, quality will increase.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Good or bad, local control is where it belongs. Overall, quality will increase.

Eliminating any appearance of "tenure" ("at-will" contracts) will also improve it.

[Guest123018-4]

Best way to insure the quality of education is to get the liberals out of it and get back to teaching and disciplining. The lack of learned discipline is a big problem in all schools except for private schools where few liberals are involved. Failure to discipline makes teaching much more difficult and learning by those that have the discipline even harder.
Of course much of this is the result of liberal ideals that have infiltrated the family unit resulting in the mistaken belief that children do not need to be disciplined.

The other is parents not teaching their children respect and or their misguided notion as to what respect is.

Then you have the liberal welfare system that destroyed the family unit by forcing the father out of the home so welfare could be collected.

I can go on with failed social engineering by the librards.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

I can go on with failed social engineering by the librards.

That would be a never ending post.

[i'va biggen]

If you remove liberals who would teach science? conservatives don't believe in it.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

Best way to insure the quality of education is to get the liberals out of it and get back to teaching and disciplining. The lack of learned discipline is a big problem in all schools except for private schools where few liberals are involved. Failure to discipline makes teaching much more difficult and learning by those that have the discipline even harder.
Of course much of this is the result of liberal ideals that have infiltrated the family unit resulting in the mistaken belief that children do not need to be disciplined.

The other is parents not teaching their children respect and or their misguided notion as to what respect is.

Then you have the liberal welfare system that destroyed the family unit by forcing the father out of the home so welfare could be collected.

I can go on with failed social engineering by the librards.

Hell, the students cuss out the teachers, and they can't do anything about it.

What we have here is a total lack of respect for authority.

When the authorities try to convince you that it is perfectly OK for transsexual perverts to go into the girls room, authority doesn't look too deserving of respect.

[Yssup Rider]

Spare the rod and spoil the dipshit.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by DSK

Hell, the students cuss out the teachers, and they can't do anything about it.

What we have here is a total lack of respect for authority.

When the authorities try to convince you that it is perfectly OK for transsexual perverts to go into the girls room, authority doesn't look too deserving of respect.

+1

[lustylad]

Lots of truth in the article posted by oinkboy, er, I mean the OP... but am I the only one who finds it ironic that a column that rails against anti-intellectualism in American society is posted by a dipshit who constantly bombards this forum with childish, unintellectual spam?

SNICK!

SNORT!

OINK!


"We're creating a world of dummies... Thinking takes too much time: it gets in the way of the immediacy of the online experience."

Assup started this thread because he self-identifies with many of the author's statements, like the one I just quoted. When he's not spamming eccie, his favorite intellectual pursuit is binge-watching old episodes of "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" or "Real Housewives of Austin".

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by DSK

What we have here is a total lack of respect for authority.

And you wonder why?

[Yssup Rider]

Says the Trumpite.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by DSK

Hell, the students cuss out the teachers, and they can't do anything about it.

What we have here is a total lack of respect for authority.

When the authorities try to convince you that it is perfectly OK for transsexual perverts to go into the girls room, authority doesn't look too deserving of respect.

Ekim want's to use the girls bathroom now too ?

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Spare the rod and spoil the dipshit.

And YOU are living proof of THAT, Mr. DOTY 3 TIMES and DOTY Emeritus !

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

Ekim want's to use the girls bathroom now too ?

[goodman0422]

“There’s a pervasive suspicion of rights, privileges, knowledge and specialization,” says Catherine Liu, the author of American Idyll: Academic Antielitism as Cultural Critique and a film and media studies professor at University of California. The very mission of universities has changed, argues Liu. “We don’t educate people anymore. We train them to get jobs."

We’re creating a world of dummies. Angry dummies who feel they have the right, the authority and the need not only to comment on everything, but to make sure their voice is heard above the rest, and to drag down any opposing views through personal attacks, loud repetition and confrontation.

Keller also notes that the herd mentality takes over online; the anti-intellectuals become the metaphorical equivalent of an angry lynch mob when anyone either challenges one of the mob beliefs or posts anything outside the mob’s self-limiting set of values.[/QUOTE]

For the most part, I agree with much of the article in the OP.
I have to point out a couple things that people may have missed. The first is the quote from Catherine Liu. What does she mean by, "we don't educate". The real problem is defining education. There is zero quality control in universities. Professors teach what they want, which is largely opinion. And to suggest American universities only provide job training is highly inaccurate. The biggest problem college grads have is a total lack of actual training. They can however whip out a 10 page paper overnight without cracking a book. And if universities did provide job training, what would be wrong with that? Most high school grads do not go to a university in seek of "enlightenment" (liberals would use the word "education" because they think it's the same thing.) Kids go to college to help them get a better job. Yes, most of them would be better served by a trade school. But this would deny them the liberal indoctrination that most universities serve to promote.

Second quote, there are at least 2 groups of dummies here. If you need proof, open a facebook (or whatever is popular these days) and friend a group of staunch republicans and a group of die-hard liberals, and enjoy the idiocy.

3rd quote. No shit! The herd mentality takes over? Really? Really???
Go to any political rally. Yes the herd mentality is alive and well, mostly at your federally funded diploma mill (university). And for the record, yes I attended and completed a pretty worthless program at one of them.

Real solution. The real problem isn't how dumb our children are. It's how dumb our graduates are. College is a joke. High school has been dumbed down to ensure our kids graduate so they can go to college. Yeah, well the world needs laborers too. We need to make elementary, middle and high school challenging. Kids who don't make the grades or fail to finish can still go to a trade school. The only thing "wrong" with trade school is that liberals will refuse to learn a skill so they can teach there.
Giving more money to education right now will not solve our education problem.