The Rising Price to Play

[Wile E Coyote]

That is fine that providers raise their rates to reflect the higher cost of living. The problem is, the quality of service is not any better and lots of times worse in most cases.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

Have you ladies ever considered that while your cost of living is going up at the same time your clients cost of living and expenses are going up too??

What are your thoughts about this??

Don't you realize that they don't care about the tricks? Let the suckers overpay

[Lindsay Lee]

If you can’t afford to play, you need to find a different hobby, or locate ladies within your budget. It’s our bodies.

[Pangolier]

Everybody always gets to choose how they spend their money, whether it's in the department store, or in this industry. Some people won't buy products that fall apart easily, and would opt for products that have a life time warranty. Others don't necessarily want to pay extra for quality.


I have gotten rate reductions from providers, but it has always been contextual. I'm not usually offended by providers that request significantly more than other providers who can offer the same or even better. What I do find repulsive is arrogance displayed by women who think they are more "valuable" than other people.


Just to give you a clue... most of the providers I've seen over my life time, I've only seen once. Even if you want to say 51% compared to 49%, though I'm sure the ratio is higher than that. Because once I've had an experience with someone, I can easily make a determination if that person is worth seeing again. Providers that I find to my liking will redeem their requested price, and if I ever found myself in a situation where I didn't have the money, I would wait until I did. If more favorable price is offered, great; but I know how to approach those situations appropriately.



Of course, you can always do "shopping around for bargains", but if you do that publicly most women will be offended by it. It's best to search privately for what you are looking for. There are places for negotiation, such as car dealerships where it is expected the price may be flexible. In this industry most women are insulted by initially contacting them with requests for less than their published rate. Speak with your wallet, just like you would anywhere else. 1 man will never put a provider out of business, but large groups of men who are willing to go horny instead of forking over the cash very well might.

[DNinja69]

A man comes home to find his wife loading suitcases
into her car.

'Where you going?' he asks.

'I am moving to the city. There a pretty girl like me can get
$250 for a blowjob'

'Aww fuck. Well go on then. Give it a shot'

'After all these years of marriage you don't think my blowjobs
are worth $250?'

"Nah baby you give a great blowjob. I just don't think you can live
on $500 a year!'

[Hank3fan]

I don’t begrudge the women for raising there prices. After all they are independent contractors and can charge what they like.

And yes the cost of living is going up but you ladies should understand that the wages of the average working man have been stagnant for over 10 years and we also have rent to pay and groceries to buy etc.ect.

So you can understand the frustration of the everyday average guy that even 3 to 5 years ago could budget into his economic situation a little pussy once or twice a month is now being priced out of the market.

[EJ Dfw]

Cost of living is going up and there are a lot of guys willing to pay more so I’m not mad at it. Long as the sessions are quality I don’t mind paying a little more.

[Lena Duvall]

The OP is both wrong and right. Many companions are raising their rates but some are also lowering them to less than what they were charging a couple years ago.

What's happening is that there is less of a middle. Companions who were considered mid-range circa 2017 are being tugged in one direction or the other due to FOSTA/SESTA. That's partially because there are less mid-range clients. White collar business men who used Backpage and Eros to book have dispersed. The remaining clients are either looking for a bargain or specialized experiences and companions are making a clear cut choice as to who they're catering to.

Another factor that some clients aren't aware of is that the remaining paid advertising venues are gouging. As an example, Eros increased the cost to place an ad in my base city by 50% since just months ago. This current landscape is wild and some companions prefer not to shell out more for operating expenses while charging the same as they did a year or two ago.

At the end of the day though, pussy isn't an entitlement.

[Passn81]

I can see rate increases but some have gotten off the charts which is their prerogative. I think that is what drives us to look to rubratings, list crawler, and some SD sites.

I think providers see that as well which is why we now see QV and HHR. It used to be just HHR and HR ranging anywhere from the 100-150 range.

What I have noticed from our side is that women are still using the pictures that they used 5 or 10 years ago. In the pictures many look like a hot date, nice make up, seduction etc.

I remember the justification for the 150-200 range a number of years ago was that the provider had to put some time and effort into getting made up, looking hot sensual and seductive. Now I find most are rushed straight of of the shower, no make up less effort.

I guess it goes both ways the provider does not know what the client is going to look like, is he clean, smells nice professional, attentive, respectful, etc. and we don't know if the provider is going to look like their pictures and other than pouring through reviews we have little clue.

That said, it is easier sometime to TOFT on the low end and if it works and the find a gem, you will probably not see that provider reviewed since many of us keep the "good ones" to ourselves.

I now on our side many of us have deal breakers, i.e. CBJ, no DATY, no DFK and once we are there and find out it is going to be a rushed session or not what was expected, we still finish the session and then post a negative review. I don't think there are many guys who open the door, see someone who looks way different, and a provider who then starts to upsell when you walk in the door, and then says no thanks and turns around and leave.

We all play in this environment for various reasons and despite all the ads, Do's and Don'ts it still is very much a YMMV environment.

I do remember times when you saw a HHR rate for 100 and HR rate for 150, opted for the 100 but once there wanted to go for the $150.

When we do stay in the lower ranges it is more of a crap shoot but still can find that diamond in the rough. That said it can be just as much of a crap shoot as well when you venture in the higher price ranges.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by Sunshinebaby2.0

my prices have gone up from 150 to 400.


On top of price of living has changed. And we have to pay our bills plus host and drive time all of it. Y’all have to think about all we do for what we get paid. Hotel food drinks feminine products make up. Then to pay our normal bills. 120! Won’t cut it over here. I am just honest and say it how it is.

Since we are being honest, let me counter the 'oh cost of living went up' for a moment. It is true, costs have increased. And for me if a girl can get $350 / $400 an hour then that is what she's 'worth' in that market. Nobody is holding a to our head making us pay those prices.

Now lets talk about the cost of living. Is this factoring in the casino? That is always a fun text to get back 'I am at the casino right now would 9 o'clock work? By the way can you give me a ride back to the hotel?'

Are we including the revised deduction allowances under new tax laws? I mean y'all are declaring all your income hmm?

This extra cost means the incalls are nicer though right? I mean at $200 for half hour we are not going to be at the Bedbug Inn like we were when it was $120 are we?

Oh yes not to forget about meals. I mean if the girl who cuts my hair wants some steak brought by DoorDash for lunch and asks for $35 this time instead of $20 its cool right?

There are very good providers booking nice incall locations (the internet is our friend sometimes) and giving great sessions for $250 an hour. This is a business, we all have expenses. Last time I checked the going rate for an RN was around $30 an hour. The nursing field certainly includes some pretty disgusting job duties, high stress, continuing education, etc... And you need a degree before you can start earning money.

It would be nice of all of the girls charging $300 or more an hour were taking advantage of the benefits of this business. Spend some time keeping costs down, making sure the customer experience is top notch, use the extra profits to provide for family, fun trips, investing, managing debt. In my experience these are by far the exception in this 'business'

[lemon]

Maybe we should have a conversation about the $160 half ass hand jobs on rub ratings?

But it’s a challenge to find real bargains. Last year found a smoking hot coast guard girl, 24 blonde. 2 hours 3 pops and she wanted $60.

[lemon]

Double post

[fozziewockabear]

Originally Posted by lemon

Maybe we should have a conversation about the $160 half ass hand jobs on rub ratings?

But it’s a challenge to find real bargains. Last year found a smoking hot coast guard girl, 24 blonde. 2 hours 3 pops and she wanted $60.

$60 per pop, or how long of a visit?!

Was that here in the USA?

Did you time travel?

Not trying to be funny but either one of the 3 I mentioned or you Sir found the cheapest seat in America!

[BLM69]

$60 is double what a college educated RN gets per hour. I say if she's worth the coin and I mean really worth it (total package) It's justified to ask, BUT!!!! if you're like a older worn out Ford, don't expect new luxury car $. That's my take on it

This hobby is all out of wack with 3s asking what 7s get and 7s asking what 10s get and everything in between. Then they call the tricks cheap because they won't overpay.

[fozziewockabear]

Looks like Recession is around the corner with the market taking a giant dump (-800 points from MSNBC to Fox Business reporting the same here in the states).

Personally only got hit a little bit (not bragging) do recommend to keep an eye on it if you invest in a shape or form.

Another factor that could affect the hobby full circle if it really goes into Recession.