Black is King

[smokedog01]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

It would be great if people would stop conflating the two. They weren't the same, not on any stretch. Not one black person was ever asked "Hey-- do you wanna be my slave for a few years in exchange for passage to the new world?" Part of the indentured servitude contract generally required the "masters" to provide the servant with land after their term of servitude was up.

You need to do more than a light google before you start spouting nonsense under the guise of being educated on a subject. Indentured servants were chattel. Freedom dues were more often than not bushels of corn and the clothes on their back. Owners sold contracts and rewrote the terms freely. Children were locked in to contracts that took them to the age of 21. If an indentured female got pregnant they took her kid from her. The Virginia tobacco season was 10 months of dusk to dawn work. The workday, the living conditions, and disease combined for an exorbitantly high mortality rate. If they got out of line they got the whip. You seem to think indentured servitude was like a paid apprenticeship. Maybe cast a bigger net with your research before you make another ham-fisted attempt at being woke.

[oeb11]

Elitist smoke dog puppy - and arrogant - shows in the posts.

And - the faux hugh hefner smoking jacket and pipe.

I wonder what Lizzie and bass and harris - not to mention Abrams - think of the depat mr. Playboy???


Mostly jealous they would never make the centerfold.

Under marxism - and OBLM - people will be forced to communes ans did Pol Pot - and only gay orientation will be allowed.



hang up the pipe and coat if biden wins - smoke puppy!


And - No - I have no guilt over what i worked hard for in my life - and 'white privilege ' had nothing to do with it. Nor did 'institutional racism' - which are marxist DPST constructs and propaganda. I am not paying reparations to race-baiters al sharpton and co.

"All Lives Matter' - put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by oeb11

FF - We are all familiar with the Use of the "racist' tag to cow white folks into guilt and submission.

The 'n' word use is just typical of DPST racism and hypocrisy.

'All Lives Matter' - take that sign out and the OBLM will mob, beat and likely kill a White Person.



Note - the Associated Press has deemed the word White to never be capitalized - and the world 'Black' to always be capitalized - fuck them and their Racism. I will write as i wish and not bother with the AP


My boycott list is growing " Boycott china, AP, AND THE nba.

I watched an NBA game yesterday, without the fans in the stands, obviously. No cheering or the psychology of a crowd. Boring as hell!

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by smokedog01

You need to do more than a light google before you start spouting nonsense under the guise of being educated on a subject. Indentured servants were chattel. Freedom dues were more often than not bushels of corn and the clothes on their back. Owners sold contracts and rewrote the terms freely. Children were locked in to contracts that took them to the age of 21. If an indentured female got pregnant they took her kid from her. The Virginia tobacco season was 10 months of dusk to dawn work. The workday, the living conditions, and disease combined for an exorbitantly high mortality rate. If they got out of line they got the whip. You seem to think indentured servitude was like a paid apprenticeship. Maybe cast a bigger net with your research before you make another ham-fisted attempt at being woke.

I agree those people were treated very poorly and I wonder how well they understood what they were getting into. However, if that was the deal I would have had to make for my children to live free in our once great country, I would have done it.

I wouldn't do it now because this country is too fucked up now, thanks to the constant bullshit from all sides on race and skin color, which is not a solvable situation with the current leaders of OBLM and the cultural leaders of today - the fucking assholes.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

now i'm gonna warn you two racists ... what you are about to read will shock you to your very core. are you ready? good.

i, TWK am the descendant of SLAVES. Yes i am! no i am not black. there is no inter-race descendants in my family. so how am i the decedent of slaves? my maternal Irish ancestors came here in the 1880's as indentured servants to pay for their passage. SLAVES.

shocking isn't it? i can hear the brain cells in your heads popping all the way up in tony west plano.

1880's??? apparently the 13th amendment didn't outlaw indentured servitude. I thought it did.

I was surprised.

it was finally outlawed in 1917 in the U.S. by legislation.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by smokedog01

You need to do more than a light google before you start spouting nonsense under the guise of being educated on a subject. Indentured servants were chattel. Freedom dues were more often than not bushels of corn and the clothes on their back. Owners sold contracts and rewrote the terms freely. Children were locked in to contracts that took them to the age of 21. If an indentured female got pregnant they took her kid from her. The Virginia tobacco season was 10 months of dusk to dawn work. The workday, the living conditions, and disease combined for an exorbitantly high mortality rate. If they got out of line they got the whip. You seem to think indentured servitude was like a paid apprenticeship. Maybe cast a bigger net with your research before you make another ham-fisted attempt at being woke.

Bless your heart... this is quite literally my family history. But please, tell me more about a subject that I spent a year of time researching.

[smokedog01]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Elitist smoke dog puppy - and arrogant - shows in the posts.

And - the faux hugh hefner smoking jacket and pipe.

I wonder what Lizzie and bass and harris - not to mention Abrams - think of the depat mr. Playboy???


Mostly jealous they would never make the centerfold.

Under marxism - and OBLM - people will be forced to communes ans did Pol Pot - and only gay orientation will be allowed.



hang up the pipe and coat if biden wins - smoke puppy!


And - No - I have no guilt over what i worked hard for in my life - and 'white privilege ' had nothing to do with it. Nor did 'institutional racism' - which are marxist DPST constructs and propaganda. I am not paying reparations to race-baiters al sharpton and co.

"All Lives Matter' - put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You have more in common with Rip and UHB than you are capable of realizing..

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Bless your heart... this is quite literally my family history. But please, tell me more about a subject that I spent a year of time researching.

Somebody needs to judging by your outdated 5th grade American history class assessment of indentured servitude. Also, swabbing your mouth and mailing it off hardly makes you a historian or an anthropologist.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by smokedog01

You have more in common with Rip and UHB than you are capable of realizing..





Somebody needs to judging by your outdated 5th grade American history class assessment of indentured servitude. Also, swabbing your mouth and mailing it off hardly makes you a historian or an anthropologist.

Pretty sure it doesn't take a year to "swab your mouth and mail it off". You should probably pick up on context clues a little better. I'm not going to reveal too much personal info-- but I've spent a lot of time on the subject.. and that's as far as I'm willing to go on a SHMB.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by smokedog01

You need to do more than a light google before you start spouting nonsense under the guise of being educated on a subject. Indentured servants were chattel. Freedom dues were more often than not bushels of corn and the clothes on their back. Owners sold contracts and rewrote the terms freely. Children were locked in to contracts that took them to the age of 21. If an indentured female got pregnant they took her kid from her. The Virginia tobacco season was 10 months of dusk to dawn work. The workday, the living conditions, and disease combined for an exorbitantly high mortality rate. If they got out of line they got the whip. You seem to think indentured servitude was like a paid apprenticeship. Maybe cast a bigger net with your research before you make another ham-fisted attempt at being woke.

That was a little harsh. I've been known to come on strong and go for the jugular at the outset, but, Dog, please. Give the lady some credit. Look at those imaginary legs.











She's one I want to keep around here.

For her opinions.

[oeb11]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Bless your heart... this is quite literally my family history. But please, tell me more about a subject that I spent a year of time researching.


Somebody needs to judging by your outdated 5th grade American history class assessment of indentured servitude. Also, swabbing your mouth and mailing it off hardly makes you a historian or an anthropologist.


Typically abusive post for the DPST on Grace - uncalled for - but the norm
I think Grace responded - Gracefully.

Poster is not worthy of the courtesy.

[Grace Preston]

Its all good. Yes-- life in Virginia was harsh.. but after Bacon's rebellion-- most plantation owners eschewed the usage of indentured servants in favor of African slaves.. who they viewed to be far less intelligent and "less likely to cause trouble". Plus-- under Virginia law, it was far cheaper to just spend the money on slaves rather than being forced to give a plot of land (yes, that was a requirement under both Virginia and Maryland law-- and land owners soon saw the disadvantage of this).



By the 1880's.. the majority of indentured servants remaining in the US.. tended to work in factories and in some cases, mining industries.



Interesting factoid-- the first African slaves to come to the US were also treated as indentureds. There was no law on the books in the beginnings that allowed them to be kept indefinitely. So, the majority of the early Africans (1619-1640's)... were able to earn their freedoms and payment the same as anyone else. Laws changed beginning in the 1640's... with the final colony changing the law in 1661.

[matchingmole]

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

She is pretty.

It is a shame she is associated with black supremicism.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

rosario dawson. she has irish puerto rican roots.

[Wile E Coyote]