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Old 01-22-2021, 07:04 AM   #46
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The topic is unemployment.
Small businessfolks drive hiring nowadays. Not the large corps.

Biden had better support small businessfolks by not imposing additional requirements, cause otherwise, hiring will be deferred far into the future, well past the covid herd immunity point. Remember small businessfolks are capitalists, not socialists.
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:11 AM   #47
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But did voters elect Biden because of what he said he would do, or did they elect him because he wasn't Trump? Trump was elected to do what he said he would do. My guess is, at least 7 million people that voted for Biden, didn't have a clue what he was proposing, they just didn't want Trumps personality any longer and I actually sympathize with them but policy trumps personality with me.
In 2016 how many people voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary Clinton?

I really don't care. Trump won in 2016. Biden won in 2020. I never liked Trump as a person but I also did not like his policies. We are back in the Paris Accord. We once again support WHO. The "Muslim ban" is gone. We are attacking the COVID-19 pandemic with much more gusto. DACA is being restored. Construction of the wall will stop until Congress approves funding (no more stealing of money allocated by Congress to other projects). I don't know about the Keystone pipeline. We'll see what happens on that one.

I realize that many of these issues are not supported by many on the right. But that's what I mean by "Elections have consequences". Trump was elected based to a degree on what he said he would do when in office. Same for Biden.
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:12 AM   #48
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Just Brilliant the galactic incompetence of the dark winter has started
The economy is F**ked
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:25 AM   #49
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Remember small businessfolks are capitalists, not socialists.
Yet they take PPP money...
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:27 AM   #50
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Just Brilliant the galactic incompetence of the dark winter has started
The economy is F**ked
You can make a lot of money's betting against the economy. So go ahead and put your money where your mouth is...
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:34 AM   #51
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This link has the unemployment graph, hopefully Tiny will take a look and see that all Trump did was continue the downward drift. I'm on my phone maybe someone will post the graph.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...yment-rate.htm



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Old 01-22-2021, 07:45 AM   #52
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It won’t matter to Tiny. He’ll claim it was Paul Ryan that caused the downward trend when he wasn’t even speaker. I mean, it could not have been anything the Obama administration did to cause all those years of job growth. Which by the way continued at a similar pace under Trump.
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:52 AM   #53
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No that is actually a fact junior.
HAHAHAHA.....another statement that isn't a fact. Do you need me to look up the definition of FACT for you?
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Old 01-22-2021, 08:35 AM   #54
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That was a good one. Lol.
please see the definition of 'satire', 1b1
Thank U
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Old 01-22-2021, 08:53 AM   #55
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It won’t matter to Tiny. He’ll claim it was Paul Ryan that caused the downward trend when he wasn’t even speaker. I mean, it could not have been anything the Obama administration did to cause all those years of job growth. Which by the way continued at a similar pace under Trump.
Actually Obama created more jobs in his last three years than Trump did in his first three years.

Which would be the apple to apple comparison.

Tiny is a bright guy but he is stuck to the concept of lower taxes creates more tax revenue and jobs. Evidently he grew up sucking the fake Ronald Reagan tit of supply side hogwash.

Reagan was the worst President ever because he has gotten this country hooked on debt.

HWBush and Clinton and Newt showed how you can control debt and still grow the economy but he refuses to acknowledge their economic numbers.
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Old 01-22-2021, 09:06 AM   #56
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Last 3 years vs Trump's first 3 years

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...mps-best-year/
Far from being the “Best economy ever”

Trump continually says that, “the U.S. is experiencing the best economy ever.” This is obvious gaslighting since the new results show that President Trump’s best year of job growth was 2.314 million in 2018 (the first year of the tax cut) but it falls short of any of Obama’s last three years. His boasts also don’t stand up when you peel the onion on GDP growth and realize that the Federal deficits during his Presidency will exceed any that were not impacted by a recession.

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In 2016 how many people voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary Clinton?

I really don't care. Trump won in 2016. Biden won in 2020. I never liked Trump as a person but I also did not like his policies. We are back in the Paris Accord.


And what do we hope to gain with the billions we will give to China, India and the rest of the countries whose people will continue to burn anything they can get their hands on to feed their families and keep warm.


We once again support WHO.



Might as well say we once again support the CCP which completely controls the WHO. Just more American dollars to support Chinese Communist Party propaganda.


The "Muslim ban" is gone.


There never was a Muslim ban. There was a ban on a few countries that made up about 12% of the worlds Muslims associated with a few countries who could not adequately control the movement of their radical elements to this country.


https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/tr...t-all-muslims/


We are attacking the COVID-19 pandemic with much more gusto.


That's what they say. We'll see if it's gusto or blusto


DACA is being restored. Construction of the wall will stop until Congress approves funding (no more stealing of money allocated by Congress to other projects). I don't know about the Keystone pipeline. We'll see what happens on that one.

I realize that many of these issues are not supported by many on the right. But that's what I mean by "Elections have consequences". Trump was elected based to a degree on what he said he would do when in office. Same for Biden.

You're right, elections do have consequences and I'm betting the American people aren't going to like those consequences of higher energy costs and higher taxes on everybody not just the rich because it will take more than the rich to pay for what Progressives want.

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It won’t matter to Tiny. He’ll claim it was Paul Ryan that caused the downward trend when he wasn’t even speaker. I mean, it could not have been anything the Obama administration did to cause all those years of job growth. Which by the way continued at a similar pace under Trump.

amazing teh denial and delusions of those committed to the DPST/CCP marxist party line in service of Comrade Xi

history - truth -FACTs are meaningless to the minions.

Chinesemedia is gloating about how they 'own fiden" - and they do.

Hong Kong and Taiwan will be swallowed up and destroyed as democratic independent entities - xi will subjugate them - just as he plans for China to do to the rest of the world!


And years from now - the go to Default excuse for marxist DPST/CCP destruction forced on America will be : "It is all Trump's fault"!!
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Old 01-22-2021, 11:53 AM   #59
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Just Brilliant the galactic incompetence of the dark winter has started
The economy is F**ked
Thanks to Trump for fucking the economy. The results of Biden's economy won't be known for a year or 2. Think we are in for a rough year because of Trump.
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Old 01-23-2021, 06:33 AM   #60
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You're right, elections do have consequences and I'm betting the American people aren't going to like those consequences of higher energy costs and higher taxes on everybody not just the rich because it will take more than the rich to pay for what Progressives want.
We Texans want higher energy costs!
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