Someone Explain How We Are Going To Need A "Vaccine Passport" But Not A Voter ID?

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by WTF

So ID's at voting booths are useless?

That depends. Back onto the topic of fabricating credentials - the LOE and type of attack are in part determined by who you're trying to fool. A few examples:

Lowest level: A bouncer at a club or a bar, and you're underage with a fake ID.

What you know: Bouncer wants an ID that feels like the real thing, has a picture that looks like you, and has markings he's been trained to look for. Bouncer has no database to check who you are.

How you can swing things in your favor: Use an OOS or OOC ID - weakens the bouncers knowledge of what "normal" looks like, doesn't know what counterfeit measures to look for, etc.

You can expand that to passports: Difficulty of passing a false US passport against a US Customs person? VERY HIGH. They have all the back-end support and are thoroughly trained in how to tell fakes from real. Difficulty of passing a false US passport against a Customs person in Thailand or Zimbabwe? Much easier.

So to your voter ID - is it backed by database information? is that database information reliable? does the person at the polling place know what addresses to accept people from? does the photo on the ID match the person and also match the database?

Nothing is 100% secure, but the #1 thing you have to attack is the person between you and your objective. Even better, if you can bribe them or get them to be complicit with you, your job becomes easier.

[gnadfly]

There are a lot of illegal voter issues. One of the biggest is you don't have to submit proof of citizenship when registering. Just check "yes" box and your in.

I believe to get your TX DL, you have to show up with your birth Certificate.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Actually you’re incorrect, have also been to Phuket. No argument against flying around for whores here, if that look is your thing, but getting injected with an experimental drug to fight a disease that someone my age and fitness level has almost no chance of getting more than the sniffles from is ridiculous. No pussy is worth being a human lab rat.

You have not addressed the JnJ vaccine. You do realize they are not using RNA technology on that vaccine?



Awwww Puckett, been researching long term rentals there. Got a good friend, two actually that moved to Bangkok. They love it. City life was too hectic for me though.

I'll leave you with this thought. We all know the long term effects of tobacco....yet many still choose to partake.



Just an educated guess but my bet would be that the vaccinations long term results will be much safer than the long term repercussions from a Covid infection. Have you read about the lung damage this shit is causing? Kinda like cigarettes!

[Jacuzzme]

You have not addressed the JnJ vaccine. You do realize they are not using RNA technology on that vaccine?

I don’t care if Jesus Christ makes it, doesn’t change the fact that we have no idea what it’s going to do to people.

Frankly, I’m surprised that so many fascists are willing to take a shot that President Trump made happen. I agreed with 90%+ of his policy positions until covid came along. Shutting down the best economy the world has ever seen was the dumbest move he, or anybody else, ever did. Worse than that, ceding decisions to morons like Wolf Cuomo and Whitmer was idiotic, but maybe he didn’t have the authority to do otherwise.

[oeb11]

GG- quote - part of his post :Jacuzzme is correct though that we have no idea what the long-term impact is, which is why companies haven't rolled out requirements for people to be forced to get it - there's a legal liability to be had if there are adverse reactions. If my getting the vaccine cripples me, I can sue the company for all they're worth because they ruined my life.



https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html

Health Resources & Services Administration





National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

Vaccines save lives by preventing disease.
Most people who get vaccines have no serious problems. Vaccines, like any medicines, can cause side effects, but most are very rare and very mild. Some health problems that follow vaccinations are not caused by vaccines.
In very rare cases, a vaccine can cause a serious problem, such as a severe allergic reaction.
In these instances, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) may provide financial compensation to individuals who file a petition and are found to have been injured by a VICP-covered vaccine. Even in cases in which such a finding is not made, petitioners may receive compensation through a settlement.
How does the VICP work?

The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is a no-fault alternative to the traditional legal system for resolving vaccine injury petitions.
It was created in the 1980s, after lawsuits against vaccine companies and health care providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce U.S. vaccination rates, which could have caused a resurgence of vaccine preventable diseases.
Any individual, of any age, who received a covered vaccine and believes he or she was injured as a result, can file a petition. Parents, legal guardians and legal representatives can file on behalf of children, disabled adults, and individuals who are deceased.
What is the process?

1. An individual files a petition with the U.S. Court of Federal Claims.
2. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services medical staff reviews the petition, determines if it meets the medical criteria for compensation and makes a preliminary recommendation.
3. The U.S. Department of Justice develops a report that includes the medical recommendation and legal analysis and submits it to the Court.
4. The report is presented to a court-appointed special master, who decides whether the petitioner should be compensated, often after holding a hearing in which both parties can present evidence. If compensation is awarded, the special master determines the amount and type of compensation.
5. The Court orders the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to award compensation. Even if the petition is dismissed, if certain requirements are met, the Court may order the Department to pay attorneys' fees and costs.

The special master's decision may be appealed and petitioners who reject the decision of the court (or withdraw their petitions within certain timelines) may file a claim in civil court against the vaccine company and/or the health care provider who administered the vaccine.
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If you have additional questions, call: 1-800-338-2382 or email: vaccinecompensation@hrsa.gov.

Date Last Reviewed: March 2021

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Go

The Illegal Aliens don't need a driver's license. They get airfare!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Actually you’re incorrect, have also been to Phuket. No argument against flying around for whores here, if that look is your thing, but getting injected with an experimental drug to fight a disease that someone my age and fitness level has almost no chance of getting more than the sniffles from is ridiculous. No pussy is worth being a human lab rat.

It's not just the pussy, it's the experience, the atmosphere - Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, streetwalkers on Sukhumvit, diddling bars, blow job bars, the Pegasus Club, oily massage, soapy massage, Mixx, Spasso, Thai hookers, Cambodian Hookers, Vietnamese Hookers, FSU Hookers, Nigerian Hookers, even Colombian Hookers. Great Thai and Indian food is a plus. Banging 20 year old drop dead gorgeous women with the finest bodies and faces money can buy is a double plus. Thailand has some damn fine surgeons, which does create one downside, dodging the trannies can be a problem. But surmountable, just look at the fingers. It's really the only way now-- the fuckers have figured out how to remove Adams apples.

Anyway admission to paradise is well worth two stabs with a vaccine that's already been tested on tens of thousands in clinical trials and millions in the real world.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

Nothing is 100% secure, but the #1 thing you have to attack is the person between you and your objective. Even better, if you can bribe them or get them to be complicit with you, your job becomes easier.

Do you realize how unlikely that can be on a mass scale?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I don’t care if Jesus Christ makes it, doesn’t change the fact that we have no idea what it’s going to do to people.

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It is not a matter of who made it but the technology they used. JnJ did not use the RNA method. I'm too lazy to get the info for you. Here is a brief description


Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 Vaccine
The Company’s COVID-19 vaccine leverages the AdVac® vaccine platform, a unique and proprietary technology that was also used to develop and manufacture Janssen’s European Commission-approved Ebola vaccine regimen and construct its investigational Zika, RSV, and HIV vaccines.

[SecretE]

Originally Posted by WTF

It is not a matter of who made it but the technology they used. JnJ did not use the RNA method. I'm too lazy to get the info for you. Here is a brief description


Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 Vaccine
The Company’s COVID-19 vaccine leverages the AdVac® vaccine platform, a unique and proprietary technology that was also used to develop and manufacture Janssen’s European Commission-approved Ebola vaccine regimen and construct its investigational Zika, RSV, and HIV vaccines.

In layman's terms, J&J vaccine relies on using select pieces of the virus to stimulate an immune response. The other two approved for U.S. use are based on mRNA.

Full list of vaccine types are here...

https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/types

I'm also, in no way, anti-vaxx. I even thought the Gardasil-9 Shot (based on that same J&J Vaccine tech) was a good bet because it had multiple years of real-world data behind it, and got it for myself...

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2543031

However, I find it very disturbing we are going down this path of "vaccine passports" for (still technically) experimental vaccines that have literally had no chance to display any long-term side-effects beyond a few months, never mind no recourse for the consumer, in terms of being able to sue for damages, or at least get long-term care if damages are incurred. I know the mRNA manufacturing tech is now over 30 years old, but we have never done such a wide-scale testing of this, never mind on a novel virus. Too many factors in the air and a lot of intelligent guessing being passed off as "science" right now, as some people are scared out of their minds and just want this to "be over".

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Thailand has some damn fine surgeons, which does create one downside, dodging the trannies can be a problem.

For wtf the problem isn't dodging them, it's finding them!

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by WTF

Do you realize how unlikely that can be on a mass scale?

More likely than you think. On the digital side of things, vulnerabilities are persistent and widespread. People exploit millions of vulnerable systems every day.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

More likely than you think. On the digital side of things, vulnerabilities are persistent and widespread. People exploit millions of vulnerable systems every day.

That might be true if we had a national voting system but we have 50 different systems if you will broken down further into hundreds of counties in each state.

It is like comparing apples to oranges. Or lustylad to a straight male.


https://www.brennancenter.org/issues...th-voter-fraud

[SecretE]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

More likely than you think. On the digital side of things, vulnerabilities are persistent and widespread. People exploit millions of vulnerable systems every day.

IIRC, when the ACA (a.k.a. Obamacare) Marketplace rolled out a decade ago, the contractors who put together the site had sensitive information, such as Social Security numbers, in unhashed text files that could be scraped from the website...and this was from a firm who had worked on the Canadian equivalent of such a marketplace...so these were supposed to be "the experts". I'd hope the understanding of end-to-end encryption and general security has increased among the pool of government contractors so such breaches could not happen again...but I highly doubt it.

[WTF]

https://www.businessinsider.com/vote...p-2020-2020-11

While fraud or attempts at fraud happens on a very small scale in every national election, it's incredibly rare and affects a minuscule percentage of all ballots cast. And partly because election administration in the United States is decentralized down to the local level, it never occurs at a rate that would change the outcome of an election.