The Decline of the Hobby

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by nono

OnlyFans is the problem.

Providers may make some money on OF, but not much. How the majority of providers make money is by false ads, fake reviews and lying to a prospective client during initial conversation that has destroyed the true hobby.

What is bad for the guys is, when they go to a board like this or OH2 and report their honest opinion of the session they experienced and paid for, not only do the providers and their white knights berate that hobbyist, but also the board staff also frown upon shitty reviews being posted and not so glamourous intel being reported on providers, especially the ones that kiss ass or fuck staff for free for that amnesty. If you do not believe it, set up a session with a provider who has been around for a bit and is popular on the boards. Then, after you have a less than stellar session, post an honest, not embellished review to please her and see what happens.

[Wordsmith]

Originally Posted by dxp

Fort Worth has gotten bad in the last year. I used to find at least two or three interesting girls every couple of weeks. Lately it's been the same three girls, and one of them I'm pretty sure is a cop

I miss Lita, socials and Bolt Fan's poker games.
Guess it is good old days syndrome.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by Arcane

Very few women make decent money on OFs.

Very few providers make decent money on OF... many camgirls rock it out. Its a different type of hustle and requires a lot more consistent work over longer periods of time than providing. Takes a lot longer for most to ramp up unless they have tons of followers going into OF.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

Only one factor is the most important in my book: She needs to retire if she has become jaded in her sessions (makes you feel like you are nothing but a wallet, would be great BCD if the guy was into necrophelia and makes it seem she is doing you a favor by taking your money). Now, since all people are different, that does not quantify to a specific amount of time.

Although they enjoy the money, and comparitively speaking, per actual time spent with a client, that is more than two times a doctor makes, who has to spend more than a decade in schooling, it is a natural fact that the providers are eventually going to get sick of flat backing all the time, which is one obvious reason they become jaded.

WC, don't back pedal now. You're writing a magna opus (sp) that is extolling an expiration date in the chronological sense. But now you are trying to pass it off as ones' own speculation.

I understand what you mean but you've hyped it as an age thing. Guess ima confused. People here will bitch at others and rail on with the same old terms. I just thought you had a new point of view of seeing something that no one else was going to define.

[motor]

Damn, if it aint the dick cliques then its the providers.....pick a side, Don't hate the fact that you are a ymmv that constantly complains. then oh well. but you hobby happy

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Could you quantify this time period?

If a provider is older than my mother, she's out of my comfort zone, if you're old enough to have grandkids and still turning tricks, she's way past her prime!

Just because tricks will hire a pig with a pork pussy, doesn't mean you can do this forever and won't run into complaints from guys looking for some quality

As I said before, providing is a young woman's gig, you may have a few Tom brady's but only because their really on top of their game with looks snd performance.

[Wile E Coyote]

It is so prophetic that when I post on topic on a thread, multiple users that are on my ignore list tend to pop up under my post, always hijacking the thread to focus it by probably talking shit and baiting me to respond to them.

Anyway, as I said, giving an opinion for when a a provider should retire, that is impossible to quantify to an physical age. That depends upon attitude. There is a reason why guys that are hobbyists are more cynnacle than if they were not hobbyists. Decepetion is the core of most providers' business model, be it ads, what they say before hand during initial communication and of course, what is done during a session considering all the hype in embellished/fake reviews and going by what the provider actually says.

Then she gets all huffy and puffy after you write an honest review/provide intel in the back channels about the session you pay for. I have never got the rationale behind a provider that falsely advertises herself to bait business in the door, does a shitty session, and then shouts to the rooftops that the hobbyist who reports that session is the asshole? Ladies, if you do not want bad reviews on a review board which you advertise on, do what you say/agree to in session.

And that is one of the major reasons for the decline of the hobby.

ONE good thing about this website is that it is not provider driven like OH2 is so you can tell it like it is for the mst part, while posting intel or a not so stellar review of a provider. You will still get drama back from the provider and her WKs and be in the dog house with the staff if she is popular on the boards, but it is not as bad and you will not get banned for reporting a provider that ghosted you.

[Eliot_Spitzer]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

It is so prophetic that when I post on topic on a thread, multiple users that are on my ignore list tend to pop up under my post, always hijacking the thread to focus it by probably talking shit and baiting me to respond to them.

Anyway, as I said, giving an opinion for when a a provider should retire, that is impossible to quantify to an physical age. That depends upon attitude. There is a reason why guys that are hobbyists are more cynnacle than if they were not hobbyists. Decepetion is the core of most providers' business model, be it ads, what they say before hand during initial communication and of course, what is done during a session considering all the hype in embellished/fake reviews and going by what the provider actually says.

Then she gets all huffy and puffy after you write an honest review/provide intel in the back channels about the session you pay for. I have never got the rationale behind a provider that falsely advertises herself to bait business in the door, does a shitty session, and then shouts to the rooftops that the hobbyist who reports that session is the asshole? Ladies, if you do not want bad reviews on a review board which you advertise on, do what you say/agree to in session.

And that is one of the major reasons for the decline of the hobby.

ONE good thing about this website is that it is not provider driven like OH2 is so you can tell it like it is for the mst part, while posting intel or a not so stellar review of a provider. You will still get drama back from the provider and her WKs and be in the dog house with the staff if she is popular on the boards, but it is not as bad and you will not get banned for reporting a provider that ghosted you.

I totally agree with you about everything except the hobby declining. I feel like it's going to enter a Golden Age. I'm 35 and I feel like there are a lot of guys my age doing this now, because even if you're 'attractive' online dating is torture for men. You can get SO MUCH more for your money and time with an escort or SB.

Right now a lot of them are looking for 'sugar babies' and I went through that phase myself.

I've been cancelled on by two of my favorites this week and yeah it's kind of a let down but nothing compared to the way I was treated trying to date.

Just like girls on app dating sites, these providers are always looking for a better deal. A lot of guys have stimulus checks right now and are spending them.

Also consider the job opportunities for 21 year old spinners. I mean DoorDash? I can see how being literally fucked by 1000 dicks as you so eloquently put it is an attractive option.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Eliot_Spitzer

I totally agree with you about everything except the hobby declining. I feel like it's going to enter a Golden Age. I'm 35 and I feel like there are a lot of guys my age doing this now, because even if you're 'attractive' online dating is torture for men. You can get SO MUCH more for your money and time with an escort or SB.

Right now a lot of them are looking for 'sugar babies' and I went through that phase myself.

I've been cancelled on by two of my favorites this week and yeah it's kind of a let down but nothing compared to the way I was treated trying to date.

Just like girls on app dating sites, these providers are always looking for a better deal. A lot of guys have stimulus checks right now and are spending them.

Also consider the job opportunities for 21 year old spinners. I mean DoorDash? I can see how being literally fucked by 1000 dicks as you so eloquently put it is an attractive option.

The hobby itself is not declining as they say, it is the oldest profession in the world and will continue long after all of us that are currently here will be gone.

The decline has been on the boards. I feel for the guys that do not have regular options and/or who are just starting out on the boards to get different options. the vast majority of providers that have been on the boards all these years (almost two decades) are either all gone, moved UTR, have a piss poor attitude or pretty much beat up so to speak. The only providers that have a problem or know that is them usually respond negatively, while the ones that I am not talking about know that this is not about them. The new to the game providers are rarely joining the boards.

[Boltfan]

Get on a plane and bring Lita.

Can't believe it has been 10 years.

[Ssjdawg]

Some ladies are doing great on only fans. Two DFW providers, both 350/hr, showed me their earnings. One was getting about $5000/month. The other was getting about $8000/month. Every month. No bullshit.

[Precious_b]

WC, i'll let it go.
You really seemed like you had an age window in mind.
We all can gauge the attitude bit with people by their online presence and reviews with Hobbyist that are trusted.

BLM, LOL!

[pathfinder420]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

The hobby itself is not declining as they say, it is the oldest profession in the world and will continue long after all of us that are currently here will be gone.

The decline has been on the boards. I feel for the guys that do not have regular options and/or who are just starting out on the boards to get different options. the vast majority of providers that have been on the boards all these years (almost two decades) are either all gone, moved UTR, have a piss poor attitude or pretty much beat up so to speak. The only providers that have a problem or know that is them usually respond negatively, while the ones that I am not talking about know that this is not about them. The new to the game providers are rarely joining the boards.

Good chances new providers have never read an actual newspaper; let alone advertise in one. Something "old school" would be tumblr. It's a miracle that this board has survived as long as it has.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by pathfinder420

Good chances new providers have never read an actual newspaper; let alone advertise in one. Something "old school" would be tumblr. It's a miracle that this board has survived as long as it has.

Boards like this often survive long after their usefulness has passed. Its a sense of community in a corner of the world that tends to be frowned upon in "polite society".

[Shep3.0]

True.

Many folks have not adapted properly during site shakeups. It's all about multi board usage.... Don't put all of your eggs in one basket.