Liberals Hate That You Have Rights

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

So I’m a racist for pushing for equal treatment of races, I’m a racist for pointing out the obvious discriminatory practices allowed by the constitution. I’m a racist for pointing out the pigs who talked freedom out of one side of their mouth and slavery out of the other side.

And I suppose I’m sexist for talking about equal pay for equal work and legalizing the right to vote for women from the start of the constitution.

This country would be a hell of a lot more free and equal with more people thinking like me than the pigs who founded this country, or the religious right or moral majority who carry on the pigs tradition by telling everyone else how to live their lives.

So if I’m racist then by all means explain to me what your definition of racist is.

The Founders were pigs? That tell us all everything we need to know about you, boy.

[oeb11]

SK - Throwing around teh term 'racist' like candy to babies is offensive, inaccurate, and a classic DPST deflection technique when they have no cogent answer to their DPST idiotology assertions.



what you assert - is history revisionism- that any White male founding father is a 'pig' and you are a 'victim' of their nefarious 'racism'.

you are a dupe of race-baiting DPST haters who seek to divide America on skin color criteria - and those are not values of Republican /Conservatives who fight for Equality for All Under the law .
values of communist 'equity' based on skin color - those are DPST idiotology values.



pushing your 'So this,and so that. and I suppose I'm this and that because of You' - is illogical, inappropriate deflection and denial on your part.

reminds me of 1b1 - who chooses the same defense technieques as 'victim' of racism regardless - when he is NOT - he is just a victim of his own prejudices.

as are You.






I am so sad for you - so violently emotional about your history revisionism.

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by texassapper

The Founders were pigs? That tell us all everything we need to know about you, boy.

The founders were pigs when you consider that they treated slavery like an enjoyable national pastime and women were considered property and given fewer rights than white males had at the time. I hate to spoil your delusions that this country has always been free for everybody ever since white settlers landed on the east coast. It’s gotten better since but it clearly wasn’t way back then and the freedom process has been slow over the last couple centuries and change. I’m just calling it like it is.

[oeb11]

SK - do not make unfounded aspersions about what I know or do not know
You DO NOT read my mind.



No - You are calling your own history revisionism, hatred, and 'victimhood' .

It is 'as You call it' - in your delusions.



Delusion 1 - hatred that the founding fathers were slave owners - some were. That was a practice of teh day. slavery is NOT todays' practice in America.

you are welcome to your delusions and hatred - I won't convince you other wise

you are too embedded in your DPST fantasy victim world to be amendable to rational discussion. .

your delusion is clearly - :All white males are pigs and want to own black slaves" and i am a victim of white males.



Do i read your mind - No - I just show you what You write.
I am done responding to you.

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by oeb11

SK - do not make unfounded aspersions about what I know or do not know
You DO NOT read my mind.



No - You are calling your own history revisionism, hatred, and 'victimhood' .

It is 'as You call it' - in your delusions.



Delusion 1 - hatred that the founding fathers were slave owners - some were. That was a practice of teh day. slavery is NOT todays' practice in America.

you are welcome to your delusions and hatred - I won't convince you other wise

you are too embedded in your DPST fantasy victim world to be amendable to rational discussion. .

your delusion is clearly - :All white males are pigs and want to own black slaves" and i am a victim of white males.



Do i read your mind - No - I just show you what You write.
I am done responding to you.

First off, I am a white male, always have been so your assertion that I’m claiming to be a victim of racism or sexism is completely baseless, regardless of the spin you want to place on the facts and all the numerous acronyms you throw out there to muddy the water. I’m simply born into the correct race at the right time to be able to enjoy most of the freedoms available (at least the ones not quashed by the church right) freedoms that some people never had due to being born in a different race, sex, and a different time in history.

My history is not of victimization. So don’t make assumptions about my background based on my writings. A person doesn’t have to be a minority or female to recognize racism and sexism that have a long history in this country, considering the civil rights movement that happened about 60 years ago and the expanse of time between that and our founding “ fathers” this country has been deliberately slow to admit to and respond to the obvious wrongs.

Sure, there were founding members that didn’t own slaves, they were just members of the good ole boys male only club that went along with the rest of the crowd to avoid being outcasts. Those guys were shining examples of freedom too.

[sexykarma]

HF.....I wanted to respond sooner but I got this pesky thing called a job.....I don’t work for the government representing the citizens, so I have to admit my work is more effective, though I would probably miss all the kickbacks and bribes associated with that work. That and I’m too libertarian for the religious right to accept, the very thought of having a stripclub or a legal brothel in the same town as their church and then giving them the easy option of choosing which door to go through would be a terrible burden on their freedom of individual adult choice ....so tough to just pick a door (or none) without trying to nail the other two shut.....I can’t believe there are thousands of people on this website alone that simply accept the whole idea of sneaking around, protecting the location, the two call system, the setting of the envelope and excusing of oneself to the bathroom....all the other moves......and some of these same people overlook all the steps to sneaking around and treat this country like it has a monopoly on personal freedoms. 50 states in this country, with a few counties in Nevada with legalized prostitution, compared with 50 plus countries on the planet that have legalized prostitution. And then there’s the other vice crimes. Yeah, the first amendment sure does apply to everyone.:ro flmao:

Getting back to voting down that 28 trillion dollar national debt with a balanced budget amendment.....ok, does this BBA (abbreviate that for short) address the 378 billion in current interest payments, or attack the big number and bring that down? If all we’re going to do is quit overspending then where is the money coming from to pay that 28 trillion off?

The projection for year 2030 is 665 billion in interest, don’t know exactly how they can figure this without knowing what current president Carter Revisited is gonna add to that number or what numbers the next Losers-in-Chief are going to add to the left side of that figure. To vote it down with the BBA it has to attack the debt, not just keep from adding to it.

A better estimate will be that everyone’s kids and grandkids will be bitching about raised taxes, reduced benefits (or none) from entitlement programs, and raising the first year of eligibility to above the age of life expectancy.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

The founders were pigs when you consider that they treated slavery like an enjoyable national pastime and women were considered property and given fewer rights than white males had at the time. I hate to spoil your delusions that this country has always been free for everybody ever since white settlers landed on the east coast. It’s gotten better since but it clearly wasn’t way back then and the freedom process has been slow over the last couple centuries and change. I’m just calling it like it is.

What a self loathing douche... Everyone before 1920 was an asshole because the vagina squad couldn't vote. Everyone before 1865 were worse because chattel slavery exists.

News for you their virtue signaler, Chattel slavery still exists in Africa and the Middle East... what are you doing to stop it?

Nothing?

Silence is violence as they say...so that means you're part of the problem.

Oh and as a white male you should probably just shut up anyway you fcuking oppressor.

LOL.

[oeb11]

No One Hates - as do the Self-Loathing.

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by texassapper

What a self loathing douche... Everyone before 1920 was an asshole because the vagina squad couldn't vote. Everyone before 1865 were worse because chattel slavery exists.

News for you their virtue signaler, Chattel slavery still exists in Africa and the Middle East... what are you doing to stop it?

Nothing?

Silence is violence as they say...so that means you're part of the problem.

Oh and as a white male you should probably just shut up anyway you fcuking oppressor.

LOL.

Self loathing just for pointing out the accuracy of pre-1920 and pre-1865? Nah, just loath the “moral majority” who made those repulsive behaviors back then some sort of cherished national pastime. I’m sure there were some white folk alive in those periods that were repulsed by the status quo of the time but they were probably treated as treasonous or traitors to the “moral conduct” very much alive and well in those times. Those moral fellers were just champions of human rights, freedom, and equal treatment under the law.

Yeah, I understand there are still some issues with Africa and the Middle East, the Arabs have a longstanding tradition of treating women like dogs, but I think the official US position is to coddle the Middle East because of the oil exports and not coddle Africa so much because of poverty and Ebola exports. I think the state department would be displeased if I ruffled the feathers of those slave trader heroes of yours.....the “moral majority” modern day heroes!

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

Nah, just loath the “moral majority” who made those repulsive behaviors back then some sort of cherished national pastime.

Nobody is celebrating the existence of slavery 150+ years ago... it's just stupid to say, this set of folks achieved nothing because they moved the ball from their own 20 to the goal line but didn't score.

The men that created the first representative Republic are pigs in your eyes because they also didn't end chattel slavery or give the franchise to females. That's not only dimwitted, but retarded. If perfection is your only measure MLK was a douche bag too. In fact everyone is, you included.

If everyone is equally guilty because they weren't progressive enough for you 200 years ago, then you really have no ability to judge anyone for good or bad. George Washington is just as evil as Adolf Hitler, Mother Theresa was a slacker because she didn't help EVERYONE.

Oskar Schindler didn't save all the Jews either... so he's as bad as Heinrich Himmler.

It's probably too much for you to understand WHY you're ignorant.... just for you to actually recognize that you are.

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Nobody is celebrating the existence of slavery 150+ years ago... it's just stupid to say, this set of folks achieved nothing because they moved the ball from their own 20 to the goal line but didn't score.

The men that created the first representative Republic are pigs in your eyes because they also didn't end chattel slavery or give the franchise to females. That's not only dimwitted, but retarded. If perfection is your only measure MLK was a douche bag too. In fact everyone is, you included.

If everyone is equally guilty because they weren't progressive enough for you 200 years ago, then you really have no ability to judge anyone for good or bad. George Washington is just as evil as Adolf Hitler, Mother Theresa was a slacker because she didn't help EVERYONE.

Oskar Schindler didn't save all the Jews either... so he's as bad as Heinrich Himmler.

It's probably too much for you to understand WHY you're ignorant.... just for you to actually recognize that you are.

The first men that created the first republic are definitely pigs for not ending slavery or giving franchise to females. THEY had the chance to do the correct thing and put and end to the wrongs of the past and create laws to end that but then profits and discrimination were the rule of the day back then. THEY had the chance and ability to put and end to it right then and there and made a deliberate, intended, and calculated decision to leave the crude rules in play. It’s actually totally ignorant not to see this.

MLK tried but if the founders would have done the right thing hundreds of years ago then the civil rights movement wouldn’t have needed to happen because the blacks would have already had their rights, MLK wouldn’t have had to fight for them. MLK in all likelihood would have been just some anonymous black pastor that would have died from old age.

Himmler was just a cog in a machine of psychopathic homicidal maniacs, you think Schindler was just going to put his finger in the barrel to magically stop the bullet?

What’s retarded is this totally escapes you, don’t get pissy just because I bring to light the cruel and inhuman behaviors of those guys you seem to fucking cherish as great ancestors. They weren’t great, unless you think slavery and sexism are great character traits to have, and you think it would be better to go back to the good old days of slavery and when women were silent, barefoot and pregnant.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

MLK tried but if the founders would have done the right thing hundreds of years ago then the civil rights movement wouldn’t have needed to happen because the blacks would have already had their rights, MLK wouldn’t have had to fight for them. MLK in all likelihood would have been just some anonymous black pastor that would have died from old age.

don't over think yourself. that was never going to happen.

Had Founders did the right thing, we would not have America as it is today due to the politics of the South. Very likely, the former American colonies would split in two nations and would have ended at east of the Mississippi. What of the west of the Mississippi? It would have remained under French and then under Spanish control.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

The first men that created the first republic are definitely pigs for not ending slavery or giving franchise to females.

Wow - so much ignorance... I haven't even gotten through the first paragraph and I know this is going to be fun to tear what you think passes for argument to pieces. Just out of curiosity what EXACTLY have you done to further human rights around the world? I guess you donated some money, eh? What no stint in the peace corps? Lol. You're a pathetic poser. Any signers of the Declaration of Independence would have been able to argue rings around you because you have nothing but your EMOTIONS to reason on.

Originally Posted by sexykarma

THEY had the chance to do the correct thing and put and end to the wrongs of the past and create laws to end that but then profits and discrimination were the rule of the day back then.

And what have you done, piggy? I love that you think they are pigs because they didn't achieve your ideals but you yourself have zero accomplishments. Just shut-up already, you sound like a seventh grader who's just discovered Ayn Rand. Your argument boils down to: They're baddies because they could have done what you think was right 200 years later. You're a typical follower. And likely if you had lived back in the day, and had the means you'd have owned a slave or two as well. And forget about letting your bitch vote... lol.

Originally Posted by sexykarma

THEY had the chance and ability to put and end to it right then and there and made a deliberate, intended, and calculated decision to leave the crude rules in play. It’s actually totally ignorant not to see this.

Explain how they would have fought for their Independence from the worlds most powerful nation while giving the vote to women and abolishing slavery. Give us all a history lesson as to how they could have achieved that? You apparently are some master negotiator so what techniques would you use to bring a disparate group of men to do as you think... I'll make it easy on you... a large percentage of the signers actually favored the ending of slavery, so you only need to convince half.... explain how your brilliant rhetoric would achieve that ideal.

Originally Posted by sexykarma

MLK tried but if the founders would have done the right thing hundreds of years ago then the civil rights movement wouldn’t have needed to happen because the blacks would have already had their rights, MLK wouldn’t have had to fight for them. MLK in all likelihood would have been just some anonymous black pastor that would have died from old age.

But he wasn't... let's deal with reality rather than your wished for utopia. Since MLK did't succeed he's a pig. He didn't succeed in your ideals so by applying your standards, he's a pig too. Explain, using the same standards you have for the Founders, how he's not.

Originally Posted by sexykarma

Himmler was just a cog in a machine of psychopathic homicidal maniacs, you think Schindler was just going to put his finger in the barrel to magically stop the bullet?

You are an ignorant bastard aren't you. Himmler was the primary architect of the Final Solution. He wasn't just a cog in the machine, he built the fcuking machine. Educate yourself for Gods sake. Again, using the same standards you applied to the Founders, explain how Schindler WASN'T a pig because he didn't save all the Jews. The Founders didn't free all the people in the US, just a majority... by your standards, they are all failures... and yet, I'm unaware of the grandeur of where you will be mentioned in the history books... What EXACTLY have you done (besides the keyboard commando activities) to further liberty in the world?

Originally Posted by sexykarma

What’s retarded is this totally escapes you, don’t get pissy just because I bring to light the cruel and inhuman behaviors of those guys you seem to fucking cherish as great ancestors.

LOL. You really need to spend more time reading in Mom's basement than telling us all about the failures of men who you personally can't even begin to measure up against. Nobody is arguing that they were Saints, simply that they brought this nation closer to the ideals which you espouse than anything YOU'VE ever done. Again what have you achieved lately? LOL... The funny part is you think you've some kind of corner on morality when in fact, your arguments are nothing more than tantrums. It's sad but you're the product of a failing education system that didn't equip you how to reason... only to do your two minutes of hate.

Originally Posted by sexykarma

They weren’t great, unless you think slavery and sexism are great character traits to have

Slavery is a character trait? I'd love to hear you explain how slavery is a character trait... that'd be a good one, I bet.

Originally Posted by sexykarma

and you think it would be better to go back to the good old days of slavery and when women were silent, barefoot and pregnant.

Ah so if I believe the founders were great men, then I must believe that slavery and women not voting are good things. You get the error in your logic, here? (hint: it's formal)

Lol, you kids these days.... You're as certain as you are wrong. That's why higher education is done... it produces vegetables like you rather than citizens capable of making informed decisions.

Looking forward to correcting your reply.

[rexdutchman]

gov.com gonna save us all you know likie Chicago LOL

[dilbert firestorm]

Looks like SK is blowing crickets. lol.