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12-30-2024, 08:37 AM
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He really does "love the poorly educated". He'd be in prison right now without their completely uninformed votes.
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Wow Tommy you really know your stuff!
For the uneducated like me can you help me understand why through the use of executive orders Biden let in 12 million or so illegals vs about 2.5 million under Trump?
Who paid for the illegals under Bidens watch and what do you suppose the end goal is?
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12-30-2024, 09:26 AM
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For the uneducated like me can you help me understand why through the use of executive orders Biden let in 12 million or so illegals vs about 2.5 million under Trump?
Who paid for the illegals under Bidens watch and what do you suppose the end goal is?
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This is just my opinion and I don’t believe that this a conspiracy of any kind.
I believe the Biden administration has been practicing a king of compassionate policy while following the law as it’s actually written. Providing an opportunity to claim asylum under the law and allowing the justice system to process the cases.
The unintended consequences are providing opportunities to those who want to work. Evening out our country’s demographic shift. Shoring up government finances in the decades to come.
There are tons of benefits to welcoming new immigrants. The long term benefits outweigh the short term costs.
Again just my opinion.
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12-30-2024, 09:33 AM
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There are tons of benefits to welcoming new immigrants. The long term benefits outweigh the short term costs.
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Exactly. We've always been a nation of immigrants, and most likely, every single person reading this is a descendant of immigrants - legal or not.
By the way, it looks like trump's campaign promise of mass deportation doesn't apply to H-1B immigrants. Lol. Yet another example of who's actually in charge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ration-debate/
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12-30-2024, 09:51 AM
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Exactly. We've always been a nation of immigrants, and most likely, every single person reading this is a descendant of immigrants - legal or not.
By the way, it looks like trump's campaign promise of mass deportation doesn't apply to H-1B immigrants. Lol. Yet another example of who's actually in charge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ration-debate/
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Wow!
So Biden letting in illegals is about compassion.
And here some believe that since illegals count in the census this would give more representatives in the House to sanctuary city areas, more electoral votes to blue states and once amnesty and legal voting rights given would ensure single party rule forever. I mean why would illegals propped up by tax payer dollars ever vote against the hand that feeds them?
So you guys are on board with supporting illegals with taxpayer dollars ahead of US citizens in need?
Also seems to be some really interesting multicultural things going on in Europe and Canada which have embraced open borders.
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12-30-2024, 10:08 AM
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Yes, Europe has been getting culturally enriched to death for the last couple decades.
These guys don’t give a single fuck about the country, only political power. They will, purposefully or not, turn us into a third world shithole for the reasons you mentioned. Their compassion is dispassionate, letting in millions of foreigners does nothing to help indigent nations. It only hurts us. There’s an interesting video with a guy explaining worldwide poverty, and the ridiculousness of the US trying to fight it through immigration, using gumballs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iatxAIQTij4
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12-30-2024, 10:17 AM
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These guys don’t give a single fuck about the country, only political power.
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The irony of this statement, coming from a trump supporter, is simply beyond the pale.
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12-30-2024, 10:20 AM
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So you guys are on board with supporting illegals with taxpayer dollars ahead of US citizens in need?
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Ahead of trump voters, absolutely.
I'd trade trumpers for immigrants all day, every day.
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12-30-2024, 10:36 AM
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The irony of this statement, coming from a trump supporter, is simply beyond the pale.
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Trump was the only choice if you’re pro betterment of the country. He’s a little crazy, but the best leaders I’ve ever known were a little crazy. It’s actually helpful re: foreign policy.
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12-30-2024, 10:40 AM
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Ahead of trump voters, absolutely.
I'd trade trumpers for immigrants all day, every day.
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I see. You’re more inclined to put resources towards people who illegally came in than 70% of the people who served in uniform. Nice priorities you’ve got there, don’t wonder why you got crushed in November.
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12-30-2024, 10:50 AM
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Ahead of trump voters, absolutely.
I'd trade trumpers for immigrants all day, every day.
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Too right you are!
One problem with your statement, and this is a qualitative response by me, is my guess is there are way more Dems who need more taxpayer dollar assistance than MAGAs. I saw some compelling videos recently of diverse US citizens in urban Chicago losing their minds when they figured out the level of government assistance illegals get. The open border is all a play for permanent Dem control.
Since the concept of equity is so wonderful wonder when the NBA and NFL will target 60% Caucasian players? Today the NFL and NBA run off of merit and achievements to determine rosters and that feels racist and outdated to me. Surely you must agree Tommy?
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12-30-2024, 10:54 AM
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Now I’m sorry I responded to Green_Mountain’s question. We’ve wandered massively off topic.
I suggest we stop here.
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12-30-2024, 11:13 AM
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Now I’m sorry I responded to Green_Mountain’s question. We’ve wandered massively off topic.
I suggest we stop here.
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#31 Deportation of illegals starting on day 1.
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12-30-2024, 11:52 AM
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Now I’m sorry I responded to Green_Mountain’s question. We’ve wandered massively off topic.
I suggest we stop here.
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
#31 Deportation of illegals starting on day 1.
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The OP asked for a list of campaign promises, not a debate on the complicated issue of immigration, legal or otherwise. And I think that you should know that.
If you want to talk immigration I’m sure there is a thread that can be resurrected somewhere on the subject.
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12-30-2024, 12:06 PM
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The OP asked for a list of campaign promises, not a debate on the complicated issue of immigration, legal or otherwise. And I think that you should know that.
If you want to talk immigration I’m sure there is a thread that can be resurrected somewhere on the subject.
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Deportation of illegals on day 1 is arguably the most visible of Trumps campaign promises and there is nothing in this thread any more on topic.
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12-30-2024, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Now I’m sorry I responded to Green_Mountain’s question. We’ve wandered massively off topic.
I suggest we stop here.
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Lol!
As soon as Green Mountain starts getting the better of the argument, Austin txdot wants to shut the convo down!!
Why am I not surprised?
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