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Laz · 04-10-2012, 04:00 PM

I think Mossman is agreeing that what he did was wrong. All he is saying is that it might have just been a stupid decision a person made that he now knows was way out of line. There is no indication that he is continuing the inappropriate behavior so the vilification might be going a little overboard here. I understand that this is a big concern to everyone in the hobby but mistakes in judgment happen. As long as the responsible party learned his lesson and behaves appropriately in the future just accept that not all actions, even when wrong, are evil.

rockerrick · 04-10-2012, 04:46 PM

It's called COMMON SENSE the guy has obviously crossed the line.

Pepper_Springfield · 04-10-2012, 05:49 PM

Well, if they were "friends" then he should have known that she has a significant other. I mean, I'm her friend, and I know that. I know that now he knows it was wrong, but it was still inappropriate. Why not just call, if you're just friends. I would be annoyed if any friend (even real world friends) just showed up out of the blue, and I don't even have kids or a s.o. around. It's just the whole part about respecting someones space. Like, what if you're busy doing homework (like that would be for me) and then u have to stop what you're doing to be polite and chat with your friend? U know? There aren't enough hours in the day sometimes!

cyranose69 · 04-10-2012, 07:29 PM

Wow!!
Sorry to hear all the shit you ladies go through. I guess not all men appreciate and understand the professional service you provide this community.
Just save all that world rocking for the rest of us.
: )

Laz · 04-10-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepper_Springfield

Well, if they were "friends" then he should have known that she has a significant other. I mean, I'm her friend, and I know that. I know that now he knows it was wrong, but it was still inappropriate. Why not just call, if you're just friends. I would be annoyed if any friend (even real world friends) just showed up out of the blue, and I don't even have kids or a s.o. around. It's just the whole part about respecting someones space. Like, what if you're busy doing homework (like that would be for me) and then u have to stop what you're doing to be polite and chat with your friend? U know? There aren't enough hours in the day sometimes!

I agree. He was wrong. All I was saying is that he might just have been stupid, not evil. You help stupid and attack evil.

sixxbach · 04-10-2012, 10:45 PM

Sorry to hear that, no excuse on his part.

This shows that guys like that are the real danger to the community not posters such as myself

sixx

Likinikki · 04-11-2012, 01:03 AM

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I found out who it was. He is a client that I stupidly said we could be friends outside of the business. I never thought that would give him permission to come by my house uninvited. Lesson learned on my part. He got thoroughly chewed out and he apologized.

Glad you got things settled Malaya...sounds like he *understands* now!

Ez5417 · 04-13-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mossman

So, someone who was told he could be a friend, makes the unforgivable mistake of leaving a friend a note. And now he's accused of stalking, threathening children and whatever else is in the minds of those who posted their disapproval. Paranoia reigns. I suppose none of you have ever left a note for a friend. As I said earlier, the contents of the note may have been a clue. As far as threats, seems like posters are the only ones making them. Does "rush to judgement" mean anything to you? Information and communication are wonderful things.

Youre fucking kidding me right???:::: ok honestly, my side is hurting so badly due to humorous shock. I love your rebellion and wanting to go against the grain::: but give me a fucking break already. This just sounds silly. So silly I can't even attempt to convince you otherwise.

WetVelvetSAT · 04-14-2012, 01:43 AM

Hi,

We don't know what she said to him to make him feel that comfortable nor do we know what the note suggested.....We all know that ladies say things to men/women to avoid hurting their feelings or they say things because they haven't learned to say NO, yet! It sounds to me like you might have lead the man on....by accident...but in time you will learn that.....

What he might of heard was.....he had/has a good chance of being your next man.....for one, you have a SO that lets you work....so I must ask why would you have "friends" outside of the biz? To me, that would have him to believe you have an open relationship.

Every provider has the responsiblity to advise a "client" of their "living" arrangement when they suggest to be friends off the clock. Some providers SO's will accept a "client" into their "space" and become good friends and there are others that "milk" the client (turned into a "friend") as a team. (either in a good way or a bad way).

And oh, honey to befriend a client (turned into civie friend) when you have a SO and children to attend to when your off the clock isn't a wise thing to do for either of you! A professional is a professional in my book and that means keeping the two worlds separate unless you both have a mature understanding of the situation! (turning a client into civie friend really?)

Sincerely,
Wet

tktmk249 · 04-22-2012, 09:41 PM

Well put who knows what goes on in between the ears of some people. lol

Likinikki · 04-22-2012, 10:02 PM

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What he might of heard was.....he had/has a good chance of being your next man.....for one, you have a SO that lets you work....so I must ask why would you have "friends" outside of the biz? To me, that would have him to believe you have an open relationship.[With all due respect Velvet...that's her business, she doesn't owe any of us an explanation. And, we don't know what her *situation* may have been...at that particular time. I have quite a few hobbyist friends...and, we do things all the time...outside the business.]

Every provider has the responsiblity to advise a "client" of their "living" arrangement when they suggest to be friends off the clock. [And, every *client/friend* should have COMMON SENSE and courtesy, to respect her privacy...regardless of what their arrangement was.] Some providers SO's will accept a "client" into their "space" and become good friends and there are others that "milk" the client (turned into a "friend") as a team. (either in a good way or a bad way).

And oh, honey to befriend a client (turned into civie friend) when you have a SO and children to attend to when your off the clock isn't a wise thing to do for either of you! [Again, how do you know what her situation was, at the time of all this, for you to place a judgement on her?] A professional is a professional in my book and that means keeping the two worlds separate unless you both have a mature understanding of the situation! (turning a client into civie friend really?) [You have a right to your opinions...just as everyone has a right to making their own decisions...on what is good for them. And, I believe she accepted her part of the blame...and, posted that THEY have talked and worked out their issue.]

Sincerely,
Wet

MGS198 · 04-22-2012, 10:16 PM

Guest061918 · 04-23-2012, 08:22 AM

I agree the guy crossed the line. There is nothing wrong with being friends with a provider on here. There are indeed some wonderful ladies on here and I am honored to be friends with a few of them. With that being said I would never do anything like leave a note. Because it has ramifications. What if a person left a note and a provider's SO found out about it? What if the SO did not know she was providing? You then have some serious drama all because a guy did not think about and respect the boundaries of a friendship.

There is cause and effect in everything we do and sometimes we need to take a step back and think before doing something like leaving a note.

Just my half a cent on this Monday Morning.