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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
And what has been the signficant changes in law enforcement in NYC over the past 20 years ?????????????
A near zero tolerance; read what Giuliani and Bloomberg did to turn the city around during that time frame...it had nothing to do with gun control legislation, and everything to do with Federalizing crimes, street level enforcement of minor offenses, tougher sentencing, and a whole host of other law enforcement efforts - NOTHING TO DO WITH GUN CONTROL !
You need to read up on the facts; Giuliani's "broken window" theory on turning the corner on crime....it has nothing to do with gun control !
<b>[I]The police measure that most consistently reduces crime is the arrest rate... Felony arrest rates (except for motor vehicle thefts) rose 50 to 70 percent in the 1990s. When arrests of burglars increased 10 percent, the number of burglaries fell 2.7 to 3.2 percent. When the arrest rate of robbers rose 10 percent, the number of robberies fell 5.7 to 5.9 percent."[/I The police measure that most consistently reduces crime is the arrest rate... Felony arrest rates (except for motor vehicle thefts) rose 50 to 70 percent in the 1990s. When arrests of burglars increased 10 percent, the number of burglaries fell 2.7 to 3.2 percent. When the arrest rate of robbers rose 10 percent, the number of robberies fell 5.7 to 5.9 percent."
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http://www.nber.org/papers/w9061
SO SHUT THE FUCK UP UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE FACTS ! |
First, the study you cite is from 1999. Hardly up-to-date. Also very difficult to understand. Even the text you included talks only about burglary rates. We have been talking about homicide rates in this thread.
From an newspaper article 2 weeks old:
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"That big a drop has to be a function of good luck as much as good policy, but it is not less remarkable because it can't be readily explained," said Zimring, author of the book "The City That Became Safe."
Another article from the Washington Times, April 15, 2013:
As the debate over gun rights heats up on Capitol Hill, the
Supreme Court on Monday denied a petition to hear a challenge to a key provision of New York state’s restrictive gun laws.
The
high court without comment refused to take up a petition challenging a lower court’s upholding New York state’s requirement that citizens prove “proper cause” to carry a weapon for self-defense outside the home.
SPECIAL COVERAGE: Second Amendment and Gun Control
The
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled in November in favor of the state.
“Our review of the history and tradition of firearm regulation does not ‘clearly demonstrate’ that limiting handgun possession in public to those who show a special need for self-protection is inconsistent with the Second Amendment,” Judge
Richard C. Wesley wrote in the November opinion.
A group of New Yorkers challenging the requirement asked the
Supreme Court in January to take up the case.
State Attorney General
Eric T. Schneiderman hailed Monday’s decision.
“Every day, my office fights to ensure all New Yorkers are safe and secure in their communities,” Mr. Schneiderman said in a statement. “This means making sure that our state’s gun safety laws are protected and vigorously enforced. New York State has enacted sensible and effective regulations of concealed handguns, and this decision keeps those laws in place. This is a victory for families across New York who are rightly concerned about the scourge of gun violence that all too often plagues our communities.”
“As the court of appeals held, New York’s proper-cause requirement does not confer unbridled discretion on licensing officials, but rather frames a well-defined and objective inquiry guided by a body of New York judicial decisions,” Mr. Schneiderman wrote in a brief last month. “The court of appeals aptly observed that petitioners are not really complaining because there is no licensing standard under New York law, but rather are complaining because they ‘do not like’ the standard that New York law imposes.”
You obviously believe everyone should have access to a handgun for his or her protection. New York state and city have enacted gun control laws they feel are effective in lowering the crime rate. Do you want them to repeal their gun control laws to see if the crime rate remains the same or goes down? Good luck.
And the question is why are you picking on NY? What about the following?
You can't legally carry a gun onto a commercial airliner.
You can't legally carry a gun into dormitories and classrooms on almost any college campus in the U.S.
You can't legally carry a gun into many buildings such as the office building in which I worked.
You can't legally carry a gun into my bank and probably many other banks.
You can't legally carry a gun on military bases.
Shouldn't people in these places have the option of defending themselves with the weapon of their choice?
