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08-13-2023, 10:26 AM
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#646
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The Man (He/Him/His)
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He's trying to pin that on me, Ninja, using the same tired leftist label he uses on you, despite neither of us being a leftist.
I abaolutely questioned if the efforts would catch fire and have legs.
I also set a marker (6 months) for how far out we'd want to look to see if it did, in fact, have staying power, unlike pretty much every other effort certain folks have championed (without much if any skin in game).
And I've tempered the sensationalism of the folks trying to exaggerate.
It's a childish poke to provoke a response.
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08-13-2023, 11:03 AM
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#647
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Quote:
Originally Posted by berryberry
Several of them posted on this thread
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... Odd that it would surely seem that the liberal lads here
actually may believe that Berry or one o' the others
sayin' "go woke - go broke" - would mean that Budweiser
(or whomever owns them) would actually lose all their money.
... Might also seem that some o' those fellows who
were crowing that this thing with Bud Light would
blow over are just tryin' like Jack-the-Lad to save face now.
... Aint happenin' yet! ...  ...
#### Salty
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08-13-2023, 11:20 AM
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#648
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The fact is 'go broke' is not even close to the outcome. Gillette didn't 'go broke' quite the opposite. Disney continues to be a powerhouse and though I am not really a fan of much they produce anymore it seems they are doing quite well despite the backlash from those who continue to seek punishment for brands that publicly support diversity and personal choice.
I do appreciate the continued efforts to frame diversity and embracing liberty as ideals only Liberals value. I also appreciate the irony of so-called Conservatives who otherwise preach free market principles until a big company partners with someone they don't like. Then somehow they want to dictate how that company operates and punish them for not doing as they are told.
When most people say 'go woke go broke' it is code for 'you better do what you are told or else' and while on an individual level that is protected as it should be the practice of government officials getting involved trying to manipulate the private sector in this way is bordering on UnConstitutional.
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08-13-2023, 11:26 AM
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#649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Odd that it would surely seem that the liberal lads here
actually may believe that Berry or one o' the others
sayin' "go woke - go broke" - would mean that Budweiser
(or whomever owns them) would actually lose all their money.
... Might also seem that some o' those fellows who
were crowing that this thing with Bud Light would
blow over are just tryin' like Jack-the-Lad to save face now.
... Aint happenin' yet! ...  ...
#### Salty
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OMG Salty.
If someone actually believes a figure of speech "go woke - go broke" means the company would go bankrupt - well that doesn't speak well for them
I realize leftists aren't the brightest bulbs around but believing that would be exceedingly ill informed
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08-13-2023, 12:27 PM
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#650
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The Man (He/Him/His)
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See, Ninja? Childish poking. "Go Broke" has been indicative of the hyperbole employed to exaggerate and puff up impact. Because the culture war is one of perception. Rhetorical games, to portray things as worse than they are. Inflate impact. Make molehills seem like mountains in how things are framed. The same shit that folks on the left and right bitch about with the other side's media.
They use go broke it means X. I use it, they want to frame it as Y. Personalize it with a vague ad hominem attack.
And since someone won't engage directly anymore, it's delightful to know you can still coax out a response using a well-placed piece of bait using a straw poster.
Thanks Salty. I knew you wouldn't let me down. Ah, face. That's an adorable notion, btw.
In other news, PETA's back on the AB hate train. Will it compound the dent?
https://fox17.com/news/local/amid-bu...dylan-mulvaney
Probly not
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08-13-2023, 10:25 PM
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#651
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I actually enjoy the duck-n-dodge then hurl a slur approach. If someone can't actually address what is said usually means the truth stung enough to send them off in a different direction.
On docking horses it isn't something I feel strongly about and PETA would likely bitch about them using Clydesdale either way. I have seem them in stable a couple of times they seem well cared for to me. But once Budweiser 'goes broke' it will all just be a memory right?
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08-17-2023, 05:07 AM
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#652
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Deutsche Bank reiterated a Buy rating on Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV (BUD) on Wednesday.
The firm pointed to the strong global results for the beer company in Q2 that offset the weakness in the U.S. business and led to a 7.2% increase intotal revenue for the quarter. During the quarter, BUD's total beer volume decline of 1.4% was more than offset by higher pricing across global markets.
Analyst Mitch Collett also pointed to stabilized trends for the Bud Light brand, which could improve visibility on the overall revenue profile for the company.
"Our August survey of U.S. consumers implies substantive signs of progress for Bud Light. The proportion of Beer drinkers who are no longer buying the brand reduced 190bps in August vs July (from 21% to 19%). The percentage buying less reduced 170bps while the percentage buying more increased 320bps. The percentage buying the same as they have in the past increased 40ppts (from 40% to 40.4%). This follows a modest improvement in our July survey, which gives us increased confidence that the improvement in August is a trend not simply volatility."
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https://seekingalpha.com/news/400337...-stabilization
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08-17-2023, 09:43 AM
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#653
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OOOOF - wonder if those leftists still think this is blowing over quickly
Who Will Heed the Lessons of Target and Bud Light?
I can remember when, in the context of the Bud Light boycott and drop in sales, a prominent columnist contended that Anheuser-Busch should “defy the culture wars” and stick with Dylan Mulvaney, because “protests are febrile and storms often pass as rapidly as they have erupted.” Eh, apparently, those allegedly febrile protests aren’t so inconsequential anymore.
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Bud Light sales have declined for 17 straight weeks! It’s fair to wonder if, a couple of years from now, Bud Light will still exist, or whether Anheuser-Busch will conclude the brand’s identity is irrevocably ruined, discontinue it, and unveil some new brand of light beer as a replacement. Keep in mind, Bud Light has been around since 1982! At the beginning of the year, Bud Light was the top-selling beer brand in the United States. And all of that came crashing down in a spectacularly rapid fashion.
 
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08-17-2023, 10:55 AM
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#654
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Last night for me it was a delicious Negra Modelo. I do enjoy some cold Bud Light in the summer time so light and refreshing. But with a meal something fuller in flavor is my choice. Brown Beers Matter!
As for Target, InBev, the still strong Gillette company, and many others who refuse to join in the effort to quash the queer community and herd them back into the closet what they continue to learn is just how bumpy and boisterous the road to Freedom can be.
For anyone wanting a MyPillow product I would suggest you order it now. For Target shoppers looking for some Bud Light or Barbie style outfits they are not going anywhere. Cheers!
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08-17-2023, 01:32 PM
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#655
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This isn't about quashing any community, its the business smarts to APPEAL to your CORE AUDIENCE, not shit on them.
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08-17-2023, 01:32 PM
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#656
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AKA Skittles.
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08-17-2023, 01:37 PM
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#657
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devo
This isn't about quashing any community, its the business smarts to APPEAL to your CORE AUDIENCE, not shit on them.
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The core audience didn't really stop buying nor consuming Bud Light, nor did they really reduce their buying and consumption. They stuck with the brand.
That's where the tens of millions (and millions) of dollars in revenue came from.
It was down YoY, sure. But the core audience trap is a fallacy popular with folks afflicted by main character syndrome.
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08-17-2023, 01:54 PM
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#658
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Hogwash...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Devo
This isn't about quashing any community, its the business smarts to APPEAL to your CORE AUDIENCE, not shit on them.
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It is about organizing widespread backlash for companies who don't 'step in line' and honor the almighty Republican faithful. Right now since most groups have found some safe space and can no longer be publicly demonized to any real degree it is the LGBTQ community who gets the sharp end of the stick.
Bud Light took a hit but InBev is doing just fine. Barbie continues to rock the box office and more companies than ever are showing their PRIDE by being inclusive.
I ask again how can someone call themselves Conservative with a straight face while trying to force businesses they have no financial interest in to change their business model. That is some Social Justice Commando style thinking is it not?
How would it be argued in court?
Your Honor we are here today to seek legal remedy for XXX Corp as their value has dropped considerably costing stockholders and employees across the board and we want something done about it!
Judge: But didn't that drop in sales and market share only come after your group organized an effort to make them go broke?
Umm.. well you see we only did that because...
Judge: Your admission of guilt is noted now please continue stating your case that something must be done to stop this from happening again.
Can we have a short recess to discuss the next motion, your honor?
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08-17-2023, 02:23 PM
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#659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDGristle
The core audience didn't really stop buying nor consuming Bud Light, nor did they really reduce their buying and consumption. They stuck with the brand.
That's where the tens of millions (and millions) of dollars in revenue came from.
It was down YoY, sure. But the core audience trap is a fallacy popular with folks afflicted by main character syndrome.
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So, you are stating that the 27 percent drop in sales was based on angry trannies that got pissed off that they dropped the influencer and the moronic executive that made the "Frat boy" comments?
Who then do you think boycotted?
I'll tell you, I know more conservatives who switched immediately, than angry trannies, but, then again, angry trannies don't exist in rural areas.
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08-17-2023, 03:02 PM
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#660
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The Man (He/Him/His)
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I think you misunderstand who the core audience is.
It's not the 19% that aren't buying or the smaller percentage that reduced their buy. It's the folks that stuck around or increased their buy.
You're only looking at part of the story, the part you like. The significantly smaller part. And then flailing about with an angry trannies counter that proves my point about the issues with binary absolutism and main character syndrome.
Most of the folks in this thread cheering on the boycott aren't the core audience, either... but I feel like you're going to try to tell me they are.
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