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charlestudor2005 · 04-20-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

The eligibility age should be 70 and should get there within 10 years. That would fix the SS problem very quickly.

Now I get it. We change the eligibility age to 70 now, and when we get to age 69, we change eligibility age to 75, and when we get to 74, we change the eligibility age to 80, and so on...

charlestudor2005 · 04-20-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by atlcomedy

*and for those that say "well only big companies (or the Catholic Church) get hit with those judgements" or "that's what you have insurance for," the cost of this is all passed on to consumers (you)

Uhhh, no insurance does not cover intentional acts (like the CC) or gross negligence.

atlcomedy · 04-20-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Uhhh, no insurance does not cover intentional acts (like the CC) or gross negligence.

Without debating what exactly insurance covers or doesn't, that is my point exactly: the popular view is that either "insurance covers it" or "some big company can afford it." In either case the costs are ultimately passed on to us as consumers.

Whirlaway · 04-20-2011, 01:45 PM

The interesting aspect of the current PR blitz by the White House flaxs is their mantra that the debt ceiling must be raised !

But they won't tell us how much they want it raised !

Like the prevous CRs they should raise the debt ceiling in small increments; extracting REAL cuts along with constitutinal limits on spending.

The Republicans have alot of leverage I hope they use it wisely. Otherwise they will lose the Tea Party.

aroundaustin · 04-20-2011, 02:15 PM

VERY true Marshall. I called my Congressman (Republican) and was told they had the "Democrats running around scared and not knowing what to do" by caving in on the 2011 budget deal. What a load of crap!! They cut the variance of the 2010 budget vs. 2010 outlays to get the $38 billion in spending cuts. Truth is, they didn't cut any actual spending.

Whirlaway · 04-20-2011, 03:10 PM

There were no cuts; the 2011 budget is higher than 2010 spending. We've been conned again by the politicans.

WTF · 04-20-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

The Republicans have alot of leverage I hope they use it wisely. Otherwise they will lose the Tea Party.

The GOP don't give a fuc about the Tea Party!

I don't blame them. Those batshit fuc'ers want to cut government spending without touching Medicare and SS.

It don't get much dumber than that!

WTF · 04-20-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Now I get it. We change the eligibility age to 70 now, and when we get to age 69, we change eligibility age to 75, and when we get to 74, we change the eligibility age to 80, and so on...

We could start lowering life expediency.

Which do you prefer?

We can not afford the current system. It was not set up with people living as long as they do. Look the good thing is we live longer, the bad thing is the government does not have the money to be able to pay you for that advancement in science.

PJ is correct on this issue as much as it pains me to say.

Marcus Aurelius · 04-20-2011, 05:23 PM

We have the death panels now so don't worry too much about it.

Yesterday it was reported that OPEC is cutting oil production because of a world glut. Today it was reported that locally we have 7.5 % less gasoline than a year ago so gas prices are going up quite a bit more over the next week.

pjorourke · 04-20-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF

The GOP don't give a fuc about the Tea Party!

I don't blame them. Those batshit fuc'ers want to cut government spending without touching Medicare and SS.

Where do you get this idea from. That is not the case at all. We want to cut everything. Nothing is sacred.

I'm a Tea Party guy and I just recommended cutting it. So is Ryan, he did too.

pjorourke · 04-20-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

We have the death panels now so don't worry too much about it.

At Guido's Life Insurance Company, the actuaries don't just know how many policy holders will dies in a year, they know which ones.

WTF · 04-20-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

We have the death panels now so don't worry too much about it.

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Everybody has a death panel at some point.

It is called running out of money.

Sooner people learn that there will be less blaming and more doing.

WTF · 04-20-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

Where do you get this idea from. That is not the case at all. We want to cut everything. Nothing is sacred.

Really....have to seen the polls?

pjorourke · 04-20-2011, 05:30 PM

Was it a poll conducted by MSN?

WTF · 04-20-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

Was it a poll conducted by MSN?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/poll-70-of-tea-partiers-oppose-cuts-to-medicare-medicaid.php

In a McClatchy-Marist poll released this week, 70% of registered voters who identify with the Tea Party opposed making cuts to either Medicare or Medicaid -- the government-run health programs for the elderly and the poor -- to help reduce the nation's deficit. Meanwhile, only 28% of tea partiers said they'd be willing to cut spending on those two programs.