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Yssup Rider · 08-25-2018, 08:20 AM

What about the First Amendment, The_Waco_Kid?

Didn’t you chime in defending Alex Jones on those grounds?

What about the facts here do you dispute? That the illegal alien committed a murder? He brutally killed the young woman? That his employer broke the law by hiring him? That his employer is a GOP fundraiser?

It’s a horrible and sad story. One of many senseless, outrageous and preventable murders in this country EVERY DAY.

Might your OVERSIZED outrage be misdirected?

Yssup Rider · 08-25-2018, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

might be an issue of funding. U.S. has 1500 mile border vs Israels 100 mile barrier with gaza.

How many armed watchtowers will be built to protect your wall? Will there be anti-immigrant missiles? Or will the US guard the border with machine guns and dogs?

Checkpoint Donnie????

rexdutchman · 08-25-2018, 09:14 AM

MORE PROOF; How far the media matters will go to OBSCURE <WASH < DISINFORMATION to this issue lets change the POINT from the ILLEGAL that MURDERED to the husband wife uncle of some in the GOP owned some of the farm JUST WOW. I agree with Waco Kid the media at least needs to be held to a standard which doesn't include trying to find information that's IRRELEVENT TO THE ISSUE.

MT Pockets · 08-25-2018, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by garhkal

And what exactly is YOUR solution bam? What we've been doing for 50+ years is not working worth a damn, and since liberals have been banding around that "There's only 11 mill or so illegals here" for 30+ years, you can bet its more like 30 mil by now.

It is an undisputed fact that we have had less immigrants coming into the country and more leaving for over a decade. So what was being done under the last two POTUS was working. Instead of spending all that money and effort on a worthless wall, we should be helping develop an economy there that keeps them from wanting to come over here. Why some always want to solve all their problems with hate and Military action is beyond me.

bamscram · 08-25-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by garhkal

And what exactly is YOUR solution bam? What we've been doing for 50+ years is not working worth a damn, and since liberals have been banding around that "There's only 11 mill or so illegals here" for 30+ years, you can bet its more like 30 mil by now.

So if Israel can do it, why the hell can't we?

According to some Texans there was not an illegal problem till the border was closed.
Migrants came here to work because of wages, they did not want to live here just after the money which was sent home.
When it was harder for them to pass back and forth was when they started bringing thier families .
Let them come to work and go home, and get rid of anchor babies.

lustylad · 08-25-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

LOL!

Since you've seen the Berlin Wall...

Today, what's left of it stands as a reminder of what people will do to be free, and how free people feel about those who would restrict their freedoms today.

Wow! Your analogy is so flaky and flawed on so many levels that it's hard for anyone with an actual knowledge of history to know where to begin! But let's try this...

Why did the Berlin Wall come down? Because people living behind the Iron Curtain rose up and got rid of the oppressive governments that were restricting their freedoms. If you want to apply the lessons of the Berlin Wall then go down to Central America and help the people get rid of their oppressive governments so they can enjoy freedom in their own countries. Go fight MS-13 down there so we don't have to fight them up here.

Ronald ("tear down this wall!") Reagan understood freedom. That's why he supported the Contras in Central America. Did you? Where did you stand on helping "free people" back in the 80s? With Reagan? Or with Bill de Blasio's Sandinistas?

Oh, and one more question - do you believe you have the god-given "freedom" to sneak into any country on the planet and live there indefinitely without applying for citizenship? Can you name any countries that will let you do that?

garhkal · 08-25-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

might be an issue of funding. U.S. has 1500 mile border vs Israels 100 mile barrier with gaza.

But how much larger is our economy than Israels?? IMO a lot more than 15 times.

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Originally Posted by MT Pockets

It is an undisputed fact that we have had less immigrants coming into the country and more leaving for over a decade. .

Undisputed fact? BY WHO's standards?

Yssup Rider · 08-25-2018, 03:31 PM

How does that matter? Mexico’s paying, so why should we care?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

More from the Berlin Wall.

friendly fred · 08-25-2018, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bamscram

According to some Texans there was not an illegal problem till the border was closed.
Migrants came here to work because of wages, they did not want to live here just after the money which was sent home.
When it was harder for them to pass back and forth was when they started bringing thier families .
Let them come to work and go home, and get rid of anchor babies.

It would be nice if that would work. Do you have any well controlled studies that support your supposition?

lustylad · 08-25-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by friendly fred

It would be nice if that would work. Do you have any well controlled studies that support your supposition?

You mean "according to some Texans" isn't good enough for you? Don't be such a stickler, friendly fred!

bamscram · 08-25-2018, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lustylad

You mean "according to some Texans" isn't good enough for you? Don't be such a stickler, friendly fred!

bamscram · 08-25-2018, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by friendly fred

It would be nice if that would work. Do you have any well controlled studies that support your supposition?

No it was just the opinions of some old folks who had lived on the border all their lives.
Prob wouldn''t work now with the cartels ect.

dilbert firestorm · 08-25-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

How many armed watchtowers will be built to protect your wall? Will there be anti-immigrant missiles? Or will the US guard the border with machine guns and dogs?

Checkpoint Donnie????

actually we have something similar to watch towers. During the Bush & Obama administration, camera towers were put in place along the border as part of the high tech border security initiative.

One problem, many of them don't work/not functioning or were sited in correctly or sited in the wrong area rendering the security system useless.

It was a waste of money they spent on. I think it was 1 billion they spent on this system. The only part of the border security system that was effective were the predator drones.

The 2 administrations were never serious about border security, it was all for show.

dilbert firestorm · 08-25-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by garhkal

But how much larger is our economy than Israels?? IMO a lot more than 15 times.

non issue.

the issue here is how willing are people put in an effort to have border security that means something and investing in technology that works.

the last 2 administrations weren't serious about border security.

dilbert firestorm · 08-25-2018, 08:46 PM

speaking of undetected tunnels....

read a story where some yahoo bored an 8 inch hole 2 miles from the mexican border to a former KFC store in the U.S.

How did they find the tunnel??? a traffic stop by the police who found a cache of drugs and the suspects led them to an ex-KFC store. they found a trap door which revealed a hole that led to an 8 inch tunnel.