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bambino · 05-30-2021, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by winn dixie

She was a hottie!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-clhRzED5BI

Grace Preston · 05-30-2021, 06:43 AM

In all honesty-- I think the biggest concern overall for 2024 is the potential for an angry Trump to run as an Independent. If that happens, we're going to be stuck with whatever garbage the DNC comes up with in 2024... because Trump has enough popularity to really split the Republican vote in a devastating way, but not enough to win as an Independent.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-30-2021, 06:44 AM

Getting back on subject, as of today, more than 3 years from the nominating conventions, I look at Desantis and Scott as the front runners on the Republican side. Trump will hold power within the party but he will not be the nominee. Desantis will be #1 among the Trump base since he is mini-Trump. To me, Scott is the more intriguing candidate. Has anyone mentioned Pence?

On the Democratic side, it all depends on Biden. I have said before I don't expect him to run in 2024. If true, it is left to Harris to prove herself over the next 3 years. She has to be regarded as the front-runner at this point in time.

bambino · 05-30-2021, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The 3 branches of government are Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. Democrats hold 2 of the 3. Judicial is not meant to be political although we know it is, and it leans heavily Republican.

John Robert’s is hardly a conservative. And he’s the Chief Justice. He’s highly politicized.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-30-2021, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Grace Preston

In all honesty-- I think the biggest concern overall for 2024 is the potential for an angry Trump to run as an Independent. If that happens, we're going to be stuck with whatever garbage the DNC comes up with in 2024... because Trump has enough popularity to really split the Republican vote in a devastating way, but not enough to win as an Independent.

Very true.

bambino · 05-30-2021, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Very true.

He’ll never do that. He already said he wasn’t starting his own party. You can see by his actions. He’s endorsing Republican candidates that support his America First agenda. He’s weeding out the RINOS.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-30-2021, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bambino

John Robert’s is hardly a conservative.

I agree some of his recent decisions have not supported Conservatives but most people consider the SCOTUS to be 6-3 Conservative. Roberts is definitely not Liberal. If you want to put him in the middle the split becomes 5-3. Still Conservative.

bambino · 05-30-2021, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I agree some of his recent decisions have not supported Conservatives but most people consider the SCOTUS to be 6-3 Conservative. Roberts is definitely not Liberal. If you want to put him in the middle the split becomes 5-3. Still Conservative.

He acted like a legislator in his ACA decision. He literally changed the language from fine to tax. He’s a Deep State puppet. Just like too many people in DC are. It’s more of a Uni Party.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-30-2021, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bambino

He acted like a legislator in his ACA decision. He literally changed the language from fine to tax. He’s a Deep State puppet. Just like too many people in DC are. It’s more of a Uni Party.

The court is still 5-3 Conservative without Roberts. He is not Liberal.

winn dixie · 05-30-2021, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The court is still 5-3 Conservative without Roberts. He is not Liberal.

Debatable. He sure does their bidding when called upon.

Roberts needs to go. Impeach or clinton style plane crash I dont care!

dilbert firestorm · 05-30-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bambino

She was a hottie!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-clhRzED5BI

ann dunham? are you serious?

the_real_Barleycorn · 05-30-2021, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Getting back on subject, as of today, more than 3 years from the nominating conventions, I look at Desantis and Scott as the front runners on the Republican side. Trump will hold power within the party but he will not be the nominee. Desantis will be #1 among the Trump base since he is mini-Trump. To me, Scott is the more intriguing candidate. Has anyone mentioned Pence?

On the Democratic side, it all depends on Biden. I have said before I don't expect him to run in 2024. If true, it is left to Harris to prove herself over the next 3 years. She has to be regarded as the front-runner at this point in time.

I think you read too much into the VP job. Harris has no friends or base. It is actually rare for a "well regarded" VP to get elected. In the last 50 years only George Bush moved directly from Blair House to the White House. Harris is not well regarded. Her only asset is her vagina and I mean that politically. That is the only way to sell her.

Levianon17 · 05-30-2021, 12:40 PM

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Gadfly's friends in Mich were happy with their $1400 check. Can you say sore loser. At least Biden didn't kill 500,000 people by being totally incompetent.

Oh give me a break with that bullshit. 500,000 people did not die from a Coronavirus and 1400 bucks is pocket change for most of the people who received that check. Joe Biden is equivalent to an old broken down car that no longer runs, but you'll brag about the fact that the horn still works, lol.

Grace Preston · 05-30-2021, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

On the Democratic side, it all depends on Biden. I have said before I don't expect him to run in 2024. If true, it is left to Harris to prove herself over the next 3 years. She has to be regarded as the front-runner at this point in time.

2024 is going to quite possibly be the oddest year we've seen. I don't see Biden running again. But I also see several people coming to challenge Harris if she does run.. and I don't see Harris walking away with the nod unless she does some serious upgrading to public perception of her. And frankly, I don't think she can pull that off.

I don't see Trump creating his own party-- but I do see him potentially running as an Independent if the RNC doesn't go the way he feels it should. He carries a grudge like no other... and does not like to be rebuffed. I personally don't think it would be that far out of character for him to do that if he doesn't like what he sees.

I think DeSantis would be a mistake. Yeah.. he's a Trump brand Rep... but he doesn't have near the charisma.. and that's part of what you really need to pull it out of the primaries.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-30-2021, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

I think you read too much into the VP job. Harris has no friends or base. It is actually rare for a "well regarded" VP to get elected. In the last 50 years only George Bush moved directly from Blair House to the White House. Harris is not well regarded. Her only asset is her vagina and I mean that politically. That is the only way to sell her.

Let's go back in time when the POTUS left office without losing.

Eisenhower in '60. VP Nixon nominated.
Reagan in '88. VP Bush nominated.
Clinton in '92. VP Gore nominated.
Bush in '08. McCain nominated. Can't remember why VP Cheney did not run but he wasn't in the primaries.
Obama in '16. VP Biden chose not to run due to personal reasons.

So in fairly recent years the only time the sitting VP has not run for POTUS when the POTUS did not run was in '08 and '16, and we don't know what would have happened in '16 had Biden run.

I agree that Harris is definitely lagging in approval ratings but I still think she is to be considered the front-runner at this point in time.

Harris leads in the betting circles.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/ne...ma-abrams-aoc/

And Trump leads on the Republican side:

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/po...-nominee-odds/