Liberals Hate That You Have Rights

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Wow - so much ignorance... I haven't even gotten through the first paragraph and I know this is going to be fun to tear what you think passes for argument to pieces. Just out of curiosity what EXACTLY have you done to further human rights around the world? I guess you donated some money, eh? What no stint in the peace corps? Lol. You're a pathetic poser. Any signers of the Declaration of Independence would have been able to argue rings around you because you have nothing but your EMOTIONS to reason on.

And what have you done, piggy? I love that you think they are pigs because they didn't achieve your ideals but you yourself have zero accomplishments. Just shut-up already, you sound like a seventh grader who's just discovered Ayn Rand. Your argument boils down to: They're baddies because they could have done what you think was right 200 years later. You're a typical follower. And likely if you had lived back in the day, and had the means you'd have owned a slave or two as well. And forget about letting your bitch vote... lol.

Explain how they would have fought for their Independence from the worlds most powerful nation while giving the vote to women and abolishing slavery. Give us all a history lesson as to how they could have achieved that? You apparently are some master negotiator so what techniques would you use to bring a disparate group of men to do as you think... I'll make it easy on you... a large percentage of the signers actually favored the ending of slavery, so you only need to convince half.... explain how your brilliant rhetoric would achieve that ideal.

But he wasn't... let's deal with reality rather than your wished for utopia. Since MLK did't succeed he's a pig. He didn't succeed in your ideals so by applying your standards, he's a pig too. Explain, using the same standards you have for the Founders, how he's not.

You are an ignorant bastard aren't you. Himmler was the primary architect of the Final Solution. He wasn't just a cog in the machine, he built the fcuking machine. Educate yourself for Gods sake. Again, using the same standards you applied to the Founders, explain how Schindler WASN'T a pig because he didn't save all the Jews. The Founders didn't free all the people in the US, just a majority... by your standards, they are all failures... and yet, I'm unaware of the grandeur of where you will be mentioned in the history books... What EXACTLY have you done (besides the keyboard commando activities) to further liberty in the world?

LOL. You really need to spend more time reading in Mom's basement than telling us all about the failures of men who you personally can't even begin to measure up against. Nobody is arguing that they were Saints, simply that they brought this nation closer to the ideals which you espouse than anything YOU'VE ever done. Again what have you achieved lately? LOL... The funny part is you think you've some kind of corner on morality when in fact, your arguments are nothing more than tantrums. It's sad but you're the product of a failing education system that didn't equip you how to reason... only to do your two minutes of hate.

Slavery is a character trait? I'd love to hear you explain how slavery is a character trait... that'd be a good one, I bet.

Ah so if I believe the founders were great men, then I must believe that slavery and women not voting are good things. You get the error in your logic, here? (hint: it's formal)

Lol, you kids these days.... You're as certain as you are wrong. That's why higher education is done... it produces vegetables like you rather than citizens capable of making informed decisions.

Looking forward to correcting your reply.

Your main point of emphasis would appear to be that since I’m not dedicating my life to the righting of wrongs that somehow I’m as big of an a$$hole as the guys that lived over 200 years ago, who were in charge of making the laws in this country, who obviously had the choice to do so or not and chose not to out of racist and sexist bias and the traditions of the day. It wasn’t up to me what laws were enacted over 200 years ago but I’m not the one defending those creeps for the decisions they made, you are.

MLK wasn’t in a leadership position to make laws either, it was a totally different set of creeps in office that followed the general path of the original creeps that he was trying to influence. If MLK had powers that the lawmakers had perhaps the right thing would have been done.

[sexykarma]

TP......Wanted to write more last session but I have this thing called a job that takes 50-60 hours of my time.......guess that doesn’t give me the time to campaign against the evils of the world anymore than you or anyone else on this forum......unless you’d like to explain your great contributions to society before others on here think you’re a creep for having a life and bills to pay.......seems only right as I explain how lawmakers have the ability to create laws and kill off discriminatory and blatantly prejudicial laws, and when they don’t I’m some sort of a$$hole for pointing out that fact. No, the a$$holes are still the ones in power making terrible laws and decisions, they are the ones to be held responsible and accountable, whether it was something that happened over 200 years ago or something in the present day. That is their job.

I’ve got way more class and character than the clowns who founded this country, if there were 100-200 of them back then who thought like me then this country would have been free, and without the discriminations to minorities and women or people with differing creeds. It might have had different borders due to succession of the southern states wanting to keep slavery, but in the jurisdiction of the lawmakers with my attitude at least the citizens would be free, have equal rights, be treated fairly, and live with dignity, regardless of their race, sex or creed. So now tell me how that makes me an a$$hole.

[sexykarma]

TP......before I forget......when I mentioned about Himmler being a cog in the machine, I was referring to the machine as in the whole nazi regime. So Himmler was the architect of the Holocaust in a homicidal psychopathic machine led by Hitler. Himmlers job was to find the most efficient way of killing Jews, the rest of the nazi leadership obviously had different duties to lead other segments of the war machine in killing whoever else.

Still don’t know what Schindler was gonna do, there were a number of attempts made on Hitler’s life that failed that may have changed the path and shortened the war had any of them succeeded. Hitler had to die first to make that happen.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

TP......before I forget......when I mentioned about Himmler being a cog in the machine, I was referring to the machine as in the whole nazi regime. So Himmler was the architect of the Holocaust in a homicidal psychopathic machine led by Hitler. Himmlers job was to find the most efficient way of killing Jews, the rest of the nazi leadership obviously had different duties to lead other segments of the war machine in killing whoever else.

Still don’t know what Schindler was gonna do, there were a number of attempts made on Hitler’s life that failed that may have changed the path and shortened the war had any of them succeeded. Hitler had to die first to make that happen.

maybe, maybe not. Hitler was causing the german war machine to make unenforced errors and mistakes on the battlefield.

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[oeb11]

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america needs a Wall - perhaps not so much as teh southern Border - but around the 'Liberal Infestations' to keep them in place in their shitholes they create (d).

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by sexykarma

Your main point of emphasis would appear to be that since I’m not dedicating my life to the righting of wrongs that somehow I’m as big of an a$$hole as the guys that lived over 200 years ago, who were in charge of making the laws in this country, who obviously had the choice to do so or not and chose not to out of racist and sexist bias and the traditions of the day. It wasn’t up to me what laws were enacted over 200 years ago but I’m not the one defending those creeps for the decisions they made, you are.

MLK wasn’t in a leadership position to make laws either, it was a totally different set of creeps in office that followed the general path of the original creeps that he was trying to influence. If MLK had powers that the lawmakers had perhaps the right thing would have been done.

Please elucidate with 'What is The right thing ' to have been done?
Do remember the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts of 1964.

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Please elucidate with 'What is The right thing ' to have been done?
Do remember the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts of 1964.

Ok, from 1788 when the constitution was ratified and 1791 when the bill of rights was ratified.......there’s the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts of 1964. Roughly 170 plus years between those events.

During that span the US fought wars in WW one, WW two, Korea, Vietnam.......blacks served in those wars, fought and died along whites and whatever races were involved. They fought in the civil war but that was more for their own freedom, and Vietnam but that war was just after the Acts of 1964 so things had changed, at least on paper. Personally, I thought the wars in Korea and Vietnam were political bullshit and we shouldn’t have been there. I felt that instead of the public spitting on the soldiers who came back, who were forced to fight in Vietnam that all the spitting should have been on the US leaders who put us there and kept us there.

WW two was clearly fought in self defense, two theatres......WW one......Korea.....the blacks that pitched in and fought came back to the same discriminations that were in place when they left to fight.......some died as well as whites and other races, nationalities.....they fight just to come back, sit on the back of the bus, drink from other fountains, barred from numerous businesses, job and pay discriminations.....whatever else.

All this in 170 some years......took until 1964 Acts and Jim Crow overturned 1965 to correct this........the right thing to do would have been to include them along with women and other minorities in the documents created in that early time period of 1788-1791.

I know that was a different time with different ideologies and racism and sexism were more rampant then, but that would have been the right thing to do.

[oeb11]

Cannot say that i disagree that Integration and Vote Suffrage should have been introduced earlier.

It happened in 1964. And vote suffrage for women in early 1900's.



is that the DPST excuse for current policies of Segregation, Racist CRT, voter Fraud, confiscation of property and civil rights ( CHOP in Seattle as an example) , Destroy all police protection for minorities, suspend teh Second Amendment for law abiding citizens, remove the right to vote for citizens only - give it to all who choose to illegally enter from teh south, north, east, and west???

and suspend teh Constitution for marxist rule??
Just a few of DPST idiotic , hyperspending boondoggles.


reversing 50 years of progress in Equality for all under teh Law



Seems to be a lame excuse for destroying representative democracy for marxist tyranny.

But sufficient for marxist DPST indoctrinated.


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