Why does the right hate Antifa?

[Eaton Beaver]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

no pallet of bricks at riots? really.

there was one at recent ice riot. are you saying this didnt happen?

YES. I am saying this didn't happen. Not the way you imply.

Prove it. Post it here. This stupid lie has gone on long enough. Years. And MAGA still falls for it.

Let's bring it right out, right here, right now.

[jayjaychrome]

They aren't "falling for it". They just don't have any values. They don't take anything they themeslves say seriously.

I recently asked a right winger to explain what they consider socialism and they posted a youtube video and immediately followed up with "but it might not be right". They don't even know or care about what they believe. They have no real beliefs beyond whatever Trump tells them to believe. If Trump tells them there are riots, then there are riots. That's it. I'm not even sure why we demand proof. They don't. Why do we even take them seriously?

The answer to the core thread question for most is: Because Trump tells them to hate Antifa.

There's a broader discussion about why he does this regarding authoritarianism, but the rank and file just do what they're told, and they aren't told to think or read books.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by jayjaychrome

The answer to the core thread question for most is: Because Trump tells them to hate Antifa.

There's a broader discussion about why he does this regarding authoritarianism, but the rank and file just do what they're told, and they aren't told to think or read books.

Tell me you don't know a single conservative without telling me you don't know a single conservative.

[Eaton Beaver]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Tell me you don't know a single conservative without telling me you don't know a single conservative.

Can someone translate please?

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Eaton Beaver

Can someone translate please?

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Eaton Beaver

Can someone translate please?

...U.

[Eaton Beaver]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Tell me you don't know a single conservative without telling me you don't know a single conservative.

Originally Posted by Eaton Beaver

Can someone translate please?

I ask a legitimate question, and just get two insults.

Are you going to answer? Or do you not actually have one? What does that sentence mean? How does it relate to this thread?

I'm serious.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Eaton Beaver

...I'm serious.

The OP is about Antifa and their marketing/branding challenges (roughly), not about what you do or don't understand. Let's stick with the former. For my part, I'm watching as their funding gets exposed and irradicated. I doubt they will wanna do their Antifa-ing things for free and buy their own costumes and supplies. Doesn't seem likely that they have enough scratch to make their own bail even.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

I know Texas ain't much on cashless bail. For that matter, none to jacked on attempted murder either. Guess we'll see what sort of funds they get tossed their way from the home office.

History Made: Two Antifa Thugs Charged with Terrorism for First Time Ever — Were Part of Cell that Tried to Murder ICE Agents in Texas
by Cullen Linebarger Oct. 16, 2025

The Trump DOJ made history on Wednesday by announcing terrorism charges against Antifa militants for the first time.

As Fox News reported, a federal grand jury indicted two alleged Antifa leftists with terrorism-related charges for an Independence Day attack on an ICE facility in Texas.

The Gateway Pundit previously revealed that ten individuals were involved in a coordinated attack on ICE officers in Alvarado, Texas. The individuals are alleged to be part of an Antifa cell from North Texas.

According to the criminal complaint, the defendants, dressed in black military-style clothing, began shooting fireworks at the facility as part of an organized attack.

Cameron Arnold aka “Autumn Hill”, Savannah Batten, Nathan Baumann, Zachary Evetts, Joy Gibson, Bradford Morris, Maricela Rueda, Seth Sikes, Elizabeth Soto, and Ines Soto were identified by the U.S. Attorney’s Office, Northern District of Texas, as the thugs responsible for this awful crime.

All were charged with attempted murder.

Now, Arnold and Evetts are being accused of terrorism. They have been hit with the following charges: providing material support for terrorism, attempting to murder federal and assisting officers and discharging firearms during attempted murders...

[Eaton Beaver]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

The OP is about Antifa and their marketing/branding challenges (roughly), not about what you do or don't understand. Let's stick with the former. For my part, I'm watching as their funding gets exposed and irradicated. I doubt they will wanna do their Antifa-ing things for free and buy their own costumes and supplies. Doesn't seem likely that they have enough scratch to make their own bail even.

It is quite obvious that you don't understand either, as you are never reluctant to explain as a tool of criticism.

Their won't be any large scale funding exposed.

But since this investigation will be "ongoing", you will get to say forever that they are "working on it." That just because they haven't found any, doesn't mean they aren't there.

Open-ended persecution of their enemies. Fascism at it's finest.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jayjaychrome

I recently asked a right winger to explain what they consider socialism and they posted a youtube video and immediately followed up with "but it might not be right". They don't even know or care about what they believe.

That's not what happened. You were invited to add substance by sharing your own definition of socialism but either couldn't or wouldn't.

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...4&postcount=16

Are you here to vent against perceived "right wingers" or to pursue intelligent discussion?


As for antifa, I already gave my 2 cents back in post #15. The members of this group need psych help with their low self-esteem and anger management issues, not hate.

Originally Posted by lustylad

The name is just a cover for a bunch of spoiled punk far-left activists and anarchists who take delight in setting fire to government buildings and shouting down conservatives they know would humiliate them in any reasoned, respectful debate.

The truth is - antifa is more fascist than anyone it purports to oppose...

Someone should psycho-analyze this antifa group. As far as I can tell, they're mostly spoiled white liberals who can't live without a cause, so they look for injustice everywhere and in everything. They are pathologically insecure dingbats with a compulsive need to riot and draw attention to themselves for all the worst reasons. They are not capable of being productive members of our society and they know deep-down that their lives are pathetic and devoid of meaning.

[Eaton Beaver]

Some may need psych help in evaluating their egos around qualifications to determine who needs what kind of help and what motivates large groups of people.

I know a lot of people who have attended protests. None of them belong to "Antifa" and all of them are concerned and pissed off about what is going on. They have pretty full lives without having this as a "cause." To say otherwise, with hubris, is just increasing the divisiveness and bitterness. And seems its own special form of barely disguised hate.

The VAST majority of protesters are peaceful and only want their concerns heard.

This will be proven this weekend.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Eaton Beaver

Some may need psych help in evaluating their egos around qualifications to determine who needs what kind of help and what motivates large groups of people.

I know a lot of people who have attended protests. None of them belong to "Antifa" and all of them are concerned and pissed off about what is going on. They have pretty full lives without having this as a "cause." To say otherwise, with hubris, is just increasing the divisiveness and bitterness. And seems its own special form of barely disguised hate.

The VAST majority of protesters are peaceful and only want their concerns heard.

This will be proven this weekend.

Lol - ok I'll walk it back somewhat.

You're right, it's not appropriate for me to make sweeping generalizations about the mental health needs of large groups of individuals. Each antifa member needs to be evaluated separately and have his/her unique psychoses treated by qualified professionals.

Based on their pics and rap sheets, however, I think we can safely surmise that antifa members tend to be less stable, less happy, and less well-adjusted than the average American, don't you agree?




Btw - I never said non-antifa protestors are psychologically impaired or violence-prone. Good luck keeping the peace at this weekend's "No Kings" rallies.

[Eaton Beaver]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Lol - ok I'll walk it back somewhat.

You're right, it's not appropriate for me to make sweeping generalizations about the mental health needs of large groups of individuals. Each antifa member needs to be evaluated separately and have his/her unique psychoses treated by qualified professionals.

Based on their pics and rap sheets, however, I think we can safely surmise that antifa members tend to be less stable, less happy, and less well-adjusted than the average American, don't you agree?

Btw - I never said non-antifa protestors are psychologically impaired or violence-prone. Good luck keeping the peace at this weekend's "No Kings" rallies.

Who/What tells you that these accused criminals are "Antifa" members? Patel? The DOJ? Trump? Gateway Pundit? Have any of them self-identified as such? Has anyone from this supposed "Antifa" group come out and said that they are members?

These people are accused criminals. That is the accurate description. Charged with Terrorism (at least some).

And FUCK THEM if they are guilty of the crimes that they are accused of.

But even Gateway-fucking-Pundit describes them as "alleged Antifa leftists."

One could certainly argue that people who commit the types of crimes that these people are accused of "tend to be less stable, less happy, and less well-adjusted than the average American." Makes perfect sense. Most violent criminals are.

My problem is that you, also, have bought into this whole "Antifa! Antifa! Antifa!" propaganda. You are enablers of a regime that is using exaggeration and propaganda to set up the persecution of anyone that THEY deem to be "Antifa." Just fucking watch.

So I don't really care whether you want to play Amateur Psychoanalyst or not.

What I care about is the incredible willingness of many in this thread to allow a vindictive, vengeful and dishonest Administration to indiscriminately categorize anyone they choose as violent extremists.

Your overall tone and the language that you use indicates your support of this. You can disagree with that. Or continue with it. But if you continue, I challenge you also to PROVE that Antifa is this organized, well-funded, influential group.

I say that they are not. Show me something credible that says they are.

You won't be able to either.

As for your statement "Good luck keeping the peace at this weekend's "No Kings" rallies" (which also supports my accusation of your bias), I offer the following observation and prediction:

The protests in June attracted an estimated 5 Million people. Statistically, there was very little violence. Almost none. This weekend is projected to attract even more protesters. And I predict that there will once again be virtually no violence, and that the vast majority of people will protest peacefully and lawfully.

I also predict that the small amount of violence that does happen (some idiots will fuck up!) will be massively blown out of proportion and used as justification for (wait for it!) PROOF that "Antifa is real and wants to kill us all! Let's kill them first!"

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Eaton Beaver

...Their won't be any large scale funding exposed...

But think of the scrumptiousness of it all when it' exposed and eradicated. Yum. yum. Come git you some...