My disgust is ineffable: democrat lawmakers urge military to commit crimes

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by lustylad

The "illegal order" has to come first. Followed by the decision to disobey it.

Exactly which illegal order(s) are the six Democrats in this video urging our troops to disobey?

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Here is a partial transcript of the video in question...

What exactly is seditious and treasonous in these words?

It would help me answer your question if you would answer mine first.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by texassapper

LOL. oh you're so precious when you talk about shit you don't have any experience with. Yeah, that's exactly what I would expect some Salty E-5 to come back at me with..."Yeah the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals granted an Emergency Stay on loading this flight. That totally over rides the orders I have from my National Command authority to load this manifest of prisoners onto this Bird..."
I can see some Full Bird Colonel (It is a VIP flight afterall) totally rethink whether he should lose his fcuking shit all over the tarmac on this stupid shit for brains E-5 or should he thoughtfully join the progressive young Sergeant in questioning the legality of the orders to fly this load of prisoners to Bumfcuk Honduras.

Oh Jesus, you're absolutely hilarious. That skit will totally kill at the next dining in.

And exactly how many stars did you have on your shoulder sapper? But let's move on..."Yeah the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals granted an Emergency Stay on loading this flight" Show us sapper...
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/search-opinions Oh, and good luck...


Now, from one of the Maggies favorite sources:


https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ju...19/id/1235267/


Or maybe it's just ranting of any E4 putting all his faith in what the gateway dimwit publishes.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by lustylad

This isn't really that complicated.

The "illegal order" has to come first. Followed by the decision to disobey it.

Exactly which illegal order(s) are the six Democrats in this video urging our troops to disobey?

Please be specific.

I don't think your question is at the heart of what is going on here. The video under discussion never says that there was a specific unlawful order given. So tx-dot did answer your question, for the most part by posting the transcript. There is no mention of a specific order in the transcript.

The main point here is that the OP says that the 6 people who released the video "urge military to commit crimes."

So the question I have been asking is "what specifically did they say that supports your charge?"

He can't answer that.

Because they did not do so.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

all of it. this is an intentional and egregious LIE


"This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us."


how exactly is this happening? what proof? this is about Trump lawful use of guard troops to assist ICE and law enforcement. if that fat asshole Pritzker wasn't such a anti-trump asshole he'd have called out his guard troops years ago. this fat fucking asshole allows thousands to be killed while sheltering those who kill them, illegal or not. do you really think any of this would be happening if not for the Demonrat's anti-police nonsense?


unless these assholes cite exactly what they are talking about, what exactly is or even could be an "unlawful order" they are exactly what they are ... anti-Trump Demonrats. and guilty of sedition if not outright treason.

How the fuck can you say this? Look at the goddam transcript.

I pose the same question to you as the OP:

SHOW US the words in what they say that make them guilty of ANYTHING...let alone sedition or treason.

Don't rationalize.

Just highlight the words RIGHT HERE that show that they "guilty" of these things.

Come on. Make your case! I'm serious. The OP won't. And I say he can't. I say you can't either.

(BTW, you single out the "Pritzker" bullshit...but there is much more of concern...well, to some anyway....MAGA...obviously not so much...)

[Yssup Rider]

Have any of you butthurt MAGAdoodles watched the video? Studied it?

[Mort Watt]

A plaque in Constitution Corner at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point:



Not a great pic, a bit hard to read.

I'll post the most relevant sentence here:

"Our American code of military obedience requires that, should orders and the law ever conflict, our officers must obey the law."

Oh, but there's more. Lots more. Including the first sentence.

The posters in this thread that have supported the lie used to start it should truly be ashamed. You have dishonored this very code and the people who served under it.

Let's see who continues these lies after this.


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[texassapper]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

“We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now,

According to who? Did you go see the Flight Ops Shrink for this assessment? Maybe if you dipshits in Congress could pay them appropriately and pass a fcuking budget so that NO US Military family needs to use EBT if you wanted to lessen the enormous pressure...

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Americans trust their military,

And Six dickweeds like them are the reason no one respects Congress. Maybe take a lesson here and do your fcuking duty to your voters.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

but that trust is at risk.

Says who? You? Fcuk you? Who made you boss of the nation? The only reason there is ANY conflict right now is because wortheless democrats flooded our nation with a bazillion 3rd world illegals to rape and murder us. The military may lose the trust of some of us... but Congress has lost EVERYONES trust. Maybe get your house in order before lecturing others on their duty.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us.

Specific examples? Says who? Sounds like some of you douche bags are losing your Clearances and it threatens the CNN gravy train. tough shit. Look at the state of American barracks at Ft Hood. The mold issues at Bragg. Nah screw you.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution,”

You did too, dipshit.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

“Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.

Says who? More democrats.. guess what. Conservatives say YOU'RE the threat to the Constitution. Who decided you were right?

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Our laws are clear,” “You can refuse illegal orders…you must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution.”

No shit they receive yearly training to such effect its also reinforced under deployments for Ground forces. Why do you think we need you to remind them?

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

What exactly is seditious and treasonous in these words?

THe words themselves? Nothing. In similar vein to Mark Anthonys Caesars Funeral oration was nothing to incite violence..

The point wasn't the words, it was the point in delivering them. Politcal theatrics at the expense of the nations armed forces. I don't expect better from Leftists. I jst call it out. Lies from the left don't matter to me.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

"Our American code of military obedience requires that, should orders and the law ever conflict, our officers must obey the law."

I'm SO VERY GLAD you mention this....

Gen Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "was certain that Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election".

What do ya make a that there story? What law granted the CJCS the ability to make psychological diagnosis such as the above?

Constitution Corner doesn't get a lot of traffic...it sits on the Supes House side of street which you avoid as a cadet on general principles. Besides Macs statue is across the street and it used to be the limits of the Cadet area.. beyond which plebes didn't haave to ping. It was the natural point to meet up.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by texassapper

I'm SO VERY GLAD you mention this....

Gen Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "was certain that Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election".

What do ya make a that there story? What law granted the CJCS the ability to make psychological diagnosis such as the above?....

I make nothing of this as it relates to this discussion. It is off topic and no matter what I say, you will not stop assisting in promoting the lies in this thread. I'm done here. I suspect you are not. Wallow in it.

[biomed1]

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[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Should be required for all of them, but especially the likes of Slotkin and Klobuchar. They cannot come up with an illegal order Trump has given. On top of that, they both pretty much go full Kamala-style with nonsensical gibberish in the process.

Coco-Melon Klobuchar delivered a small stream of "ifs", "this's" and "thats" after confessing nothing has happened.

...NBC’s Kristen Welker on Sunday asked Klobuchar what specific “illegal acts” the seditious Democrats were referring to in the viral video.

“I wonder, do you know what the specific, illegal acts are that your democratic colleagues were referring to there?” Kristen Welker asked Klobuchar.

Klobuchar could not answer Welker.

She delivered a word salad about the National Guard and a District Judge’s order.

“If their commander were to tell them, hey go out on the streets… and do this and that, that’s not following the order that is in law,” Klobuchar said....

Slut-puppy Slotkin was similar, but she devolved into a word-salad buffet of Nazis, Nuremburg and movies.

...Raddatz: Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

Slotkin: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal...

...Raddatz: It is very clear that no one should follow an illegal order, but it’s very murky when you look at what is an illegal order, and if you go into morally, ethically, that’s a pretty tough thing to look at and say, “How do I navigate this?”

Slotkin: I don’t— I mean, look, if you go back to Nuremberg, right that— “well, they told me to do it, that’s why I murdered people,” is not an excuse. If you look at popular culture, there’s like, you watch, you know, A Few Good Men, like we have plenty of examples since World War Two and Vietnam, where people were told to follow illegal orders, and they did it and they were prosecuted for it...

[Yssup Rider]

It’s really kinda funny how you continue to use the Col. Jessup meme in your posts, WYID.

What happened to him?

You seem to want to incarcerate or even execute elected representatives who speak out against Trump. And criticize opponents for quoting movies?

But don’t call him Shirley. Herr Scheissfuhrer will suffice.

Is there a point anywhere in your complaints?

SNICK!

[texassapper]

Well well well. I was unaware that this code was on the books...


Sounds like charges are back on the books. Because those Senators are ABSOLUTELY encouraging insubordination. Which is what Pvt Snuffy telling is Squad leader that the Courts said its illegal for them to detain illegal aliens... He saw it on CNN.

If even ONE soldier, sailor, airman, or marine gets chaptered and mentions the Senators video, they are going to get themselves in some trouble...

And if you know Joe, you know there's at least ONE of them dumb enough to do so.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

And exactly how many stars did you have on your shoulder sapper?

Obviously none. And your lack of experience in the service is glaringly revealed again because you think the Stars are the ones that matter. As Reagan said, its not that you're wrong, its just that what you know is untrue.

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

Or maybe it's just ranting of any E4 putting all his faith in what the gateway dimwit publishes.

Don't diss the E4 Mafia. Those in the know, know who really runs the military.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Obviously none. And your lack of experience in the service is glaringly revealed again because you think the Stars are the ones that matter. As Reagan said, its not that you're wrong, its just that what you know is untrue.

Don't diss the E4 Mafia. Those in the know, know who really runs the military.

https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/search-opinions Bueller? Bueller??


Yes, deporting illegal aliens without due process can be considered a violation of the Constitution, particularly under the Fifth Amendment, which guarantees that no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law." Due process requires that individuals have the right to a fair hearing and the opportunity to contest their deportation


Trump ordered deportation to El Salvador ignoring a Judges order and without due process. Do the math sapper