Bye Bye Venezuela Dictator

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Quote:
Originally Posted by txdot-guy

The point that I was trying to make and everyone seems to be missing is this.

What gives the President the right to unilaterally decide to use American troops and other military forces to overthrow the illegitimate government of a foreign country whose narco-terrorist leader is profiting from the deaths of thousands of Americans each year by shipping (forbidden topic) to our shores?




Fine, Then answer the question you posed.

What gives the President the right to unilaterally decide to use American troops and other military forces to overthrow the illegitimate government of a foreign country whose narco-terrorist leader is profiting from the deaths of thousands of Americans each year by shipping (forbidden topic) to our shores?

I don’t believe that the President has the constitutional authority to essentially declare war upon a foreign power whether or not he or she believes that foreign power is legitimate or not!

Try reading up on the war powers resolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

quoting yourself to make a point means you have no point to make


by citing the War powers act you concede that no war declaration was needed and all recent presidents such as Reagan Clinton and Obama along with Trump had authorization to act in the best interests of America. regardless of the ultimate outcome



thank you valued poster

[CG2014]

The usual democrats in congress are calling this an act of war and complaining Congress was not consulted for their approval to use the U.S. military.

This was not an act of war. This was not any different than the police executing an arrest warrant at the residence of the person named on the arrest warrant.

Congressional approval is not required.

[RX792P]

Comparison

Former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez: convicted of helping to bring more than 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S. and related weapons charges.
More specifically convicted on three counts: conspiracy to import cocaine, conspiracy to use machine guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine guns.



Venezuelan President Nicolas Madura: indicted for partnering with his co-conspirators to use his illegally obtained authority and the
institutions he corroded to transport thousands of tons of cocaine to the United States.
More specifically, indicted on four counts: Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices.





Trump comment
"If you have some drug dealers in your country, and you're the president, you don't necessarily put the president jail for 45 years."

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by CG2014

This was not any different than the police executing an arrest warrant at the residence of the person named on the arrest warrant.

Question on the comparison: Can a New York police officer execute an arrest warrant at a residence in California?

[CG2014]

^^^ Yes he can. Police agencies work with other agencies both local, state, county and federal to pursue, arrest and extratide fugitives.


To answer your question, a NY police officer can go to Los Angeles to pursue and arrest a criminal wanted in NY just like a police officer in Ohio can come to Dallas to pursue and arrest a criminal wanted in Ohio.


It's called interagency collaboration

[CG2014]

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by CG2014

^^^ Yes he can. Police agencies work with other agencies both local, state, county and federal to pursue, arrest and extratide fugitives.


To answer your question, a NY police officer can go to Los Angeles to pursue and arrest a criminal wanted in NY just like a police officer in Ohio can come to Dallas to pursue and arrest a criminal wanted in Ohio.


It's called interagency collaboration

You might want to check your answer.
An officer's commission and general arrest powers end at state lines. An Ohio officer cannot simply drive to Texas and act as a Texas peace officer without specific authorization.

Warrant Validity Across State Lines: Arrest warrants issued in one state are not directly valid in other states, meaning that the authorities in the state with the warrant cannot simply cross state lines and arrest the defendant in another state. However, due to interstate extradition agreements, the existence of the warrant is shared with one state to the others. Through these compacts, the local law enforcement authorities have the authority under their own state law to arrest the defendant on an out-of-state warrant and hold them until an extradition hearing is held. The charge against the person while waiting for an extradition decision is called “fugitive from justice.”

https://www.cohenwinters.com/can-i-b...fferent-state/

OTOH, there is a process called extradition

Extradition Process: To execute an out-of-state arrest warrant, the requesting state typically initiates an extradition process. This involves formal requests, paperwork, and coordination between law enforcement agencies in both states. If a defendant is arrested out-of-state, they are brought before a local court to determine if the charges from the home state are valid. The judge will then decide whether to order them be extradited, meaning whether the authorities from the state with the warrant can legally take custody of the defendant and transport them back to their state for trial. The local judge can also decide whether the defendant should be held in jail waiting to be extradited, or whether they can be released with orders to self-surrender. The biggest factors that the judge usually considers in making this decision are the seriousness of the charges, the defendant’s prior criminal history, and whether the defendant has ever failed to appear in court before. If the defendant is held in jail waiting for extradition, the other state has a certain amount of time to extradite after which a review hearing is usually held to decide if the defendant should be released.

It's called interagency collaboration

What agencies in Venezuela collaborated with US agencies to arrest (and/or extradite) Maduro?

[CG2014]

Originally Posted by RX792P

You might want to check your answer.
An officer's commission and general arrest powers end at state lines. An Ohio officer cannot simply drive to Texas and act as a Texas peace officer without specific authorization.

OTOH, there is a process called extradition?

You might want to re-read my post especially the part where I wrote

It's called interagency collaboration

which is the authorization an officer needs to act in another jurisdiction

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Budman

Damn I'm impressed. I din't think you could count that high. Just proves you made it thru preschool. Congrats.

We can always count on you to chime in with the insults.

Thanks for not disappointing.

Did you watch Trump's hour long presser? Or did you nod off too?

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by CG2014

LIE.

Prove one iota of support for Maduro.

You can't and no doubt will dodge another challenge to your ignorant bloviations.

Troll

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by CG2014

Dear CG. This meme is particularly insulting.

The no Kings protesters aren’t supporting a Venezuelan Dictator, They’re opposing an American Dictator.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Dear CG. This meme is particularly insulting.

The no Kings protesters aren’t supporting a Venezuelan Dictator, They’re opposing an American Dictator.

The local DIM's in my area must have got the memo of If your mug was in the news in a no kings don't go to a .... whatever

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

The local DIM's in my area must have got the memo of If your mug was in the news in a no kings don't go to a .... whatever

Ingles por favor.

[elghund]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

The local DIM's in my area must have got the memo of If your mug was in the news in a no kings don't go to a .... whatever

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Ingles por favor.

Good luck with that……




elg…

[offshoredrilling]