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Old Yesterday, 01:44 PM   #61
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DHS?SO THE FEDS SENT THEM TO JAIL FOR MONEY LAUNDERING?
IM CONFUSED
WHY DID THERE ACCOUNTS GET TAKEN OVER BY LE AND DHS?? WOW I NEVER HEARD OF THAT BEFORE
Dallas and TX don't need to contact DHS anymore since TX law can take care whatever need at the local level.
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Old Yesterday, 02:30 PM   #62
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What is NNJ?

Northern New Jersey.
The NYC Metro Area.
(It's fertile ground for K-Girl Indies!)
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Old Yesterday, 05:06 PM   #63
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The exclamation marks have me thinking that this is a Howard Dean reincarnation. But the office is President of the NNJ Kgirl Safety Board
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Old Yesterday, 05:22 PM   #64
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The one I fell for was though Listcrawler. I’ve heard of stings via rubratings using old office buildings.

I consider bed page, adult search and listcrawler all to be on the same level.

Just use p411 and if you have doubt just gage how the lady is texting you. Experienced lady’s are not going to discuss anything risky over text. So if you have an eager lady texting you all kinds of things then run.

If I was to part take in any of those sites I would pose the the question “are you working with, under or are affiliated in any capacity with law enforcement or any related agency?”
No guarantees but a legit lady is going to have no issue answering that.
Asking someone if they are LEO does not get you out of any trouble. So it you think asking this does anything, I really doesn’t
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Old Yesterday, 07:07 PM   #65
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…a legit lady is going to have no issue answering that.

Neither will a cop.
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Old Yesterday, 07:16 PM   #66
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Been hobbying since 2010 and averaged about 30-40 encounters annually until 2019 and then maybe about 10-15 times a year until 2022 - after a bust at a place I frequented quite a bit between 2021 and 2022 - I acknowledge probably recklessly considering I thought the ads were very provocative and blatant but knew the providers really well and did not really fully consider the risks (I should have). Stopped except with long time providers in my phone now - never look at ads. Many of the regulars I used to see are either retired or retiring now.

Tin Man gives great advice on this board - spot on.
A). No 100% safe way to hobby anymore - best you can do is have verified regulars that you see and have a large enough client base that they are not advertising.

B). I don’t know what constitutes a high end hotel in the DFW area - maybe the boutique expensive places in downtown Dallas. The rest have been used for busts by LE. Last year there were busts in Hilton Southlake and an upscale hotel in Stonebriar on the same weekend in a joint operation. I think they got 50-60 arrests during that time. Most high end hotels have cameras everywhere including stairwells. If LE wants to use it to conduct an operation, they can often use that footage. There was some legal action some years ago involving human trafficking and one of the large hotel chains - I think they are more than likely to participate with LE if asked.

C). I would not use sites like LC or adult search - and would not use RR except for well known providers (not new, not Asian, not professionally done photos). Really I would not use RR the more I think about it. One of my regulars has been on RR for a while but the rest that had been on there no longer advertise on it.

D). I will be the first to admit I am not sure about the safest way to get into the hobby anymore. It was very different circa 2010. Both legally (no felony) and various platforms which allowed for better cross verification of individual providers.

E). I don’t think any site is 100% safe - the ones I listed above are high risk for this IMO. Tryst, P411, OH2 - more safe but various levels of safe.

F). If you do have regulars and have difficulty making appointments work due to scheduling, change in locations (provider or yourself), change in time of day (night to day or day to night changes) - would strongly recommend talking to your regulars about recommendations - nobody wants to lose business but if situations change, most of my long time regulars have been great about recommending UTR options - obviously YMMV based on your relationships with your long time regulars and what they think of your personally…..

Hope that helps….
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Thanks for sharing, Buckeye. I had trouble following the circumstances you described in your first paragraph. You were responding to ads posted by someone you already knew? Did they advertise a different phone number that you called, thereby making it difficult to claim you were unaware of the ad? Anymore details you can provide would be helpful.
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One thing I would also suggest, that I have done and it has worked great… is that I will reach out to my regulars, and ask if they have any recommendations/friends… I offer to give my regular a $20 for the finders fee.

Providers if they are smart will help out their friends, and will want to keep regulars seeing people the chick trusts as well.
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Old Yesterday, 08:04 PM   #69
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Thanks for sharing, Buckeye. I had trouble following the circumstances you described in your first paragraph. You were responding to ads posted by someone you already knew? Did they advertise a different phone number that you called, thereby making it difficult to claim you were unaware of the ad? Anymore details you can provide would be helpful.

Actually it was a long running sting in Plano that I was shocked that happened. I had come home from work on a Saturday evening, watched the 4th quarter of a football game and then the local news came on with a bust in Plano. That was the Bungalow group. Many of us knew them as providers from another studio type of place that broke off and established separately in 2021. While I did not look for ads necessarily (since I had a lot of providers in my phone), I did notice the ads. They posted quite a bit wrt explicit services and rates. The pool in the back - multiple providers with multiple hobbyists at the same time. I knew after the first few times I went there and saw the setup, I thought this was probably not the right place to be. Just way too open. I remember walking through the house with a provider I always would see and noticing a couple in the pool. Noticing a couple on a couch. There were refreshments everywhere. Just not good judgement.

Found out from a provider that was there but stopped going there that it was under surveillance for months. I am sure they had pictures of people going in and out, cars, etc. I was fortunate not be wrapped up in this but it taught me to be much more careful. It is not just known providers, good reviews, established. Good judgement is more than that too
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Old Yesterday, 08:09 PM   #70
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From all accounts, most of the high-quality K-girls in this area got tired of the legal crusade against Asian agencies/studios/AMPs and left for the coasts. Frankly, you are probably benefiting from that where you are and would find little to offer here if you decided to visit.
You're probably right!
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Actually it was a long running sting in Plano that I was shocked that happened. I had come home from work on a Saturday evening, watched the 4th quarter of a football game and then the local news came on with a bust in Plano. That was the Bungalow group. Many of us knew them as providers from another studio type of place that broke off and established separately in 2021. While I did not look for ads necessarily (since I had a lot of providers in my phone), I did notice the ads. They posted quite a bit wrt explicit services and rates. The pool in the back - multiple providers with multiple hobbyists at the same time. I knew after the first few times I went there and saw the setup, I thought this was probably not the right place to be. Just way too open. I remember walking through the house with a provider I always would see and noticing a couple in the pool. Noticing a couple on a couch. There were refreshments everywhere. Just not good judgement.

Found out from a provider that was there but stopped going there that it was under surveillance for months. I am sure they had pictures of people going in and out, cars, etc. I was fortunate not be wrapped up in this but it taught me to be much more careful. It is not just known providers, good reviews, established. Good judgement is more than that too
I'm assuming this bust was done at a home? Am i correct?
Have there been any other prostitution stings targeting escorts or John's in plano?
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Old Yesterday, 08:25 PM   #72
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Actually it was a long running sting in Plano that I was shocked that happened. I had come home from work on a Saturday evening, watched the 4th quarter of a football game and then the local news came on with a bust in Plano. That was the Bungalow group. Many of us knew them as providers from another studio type of place that broke off and established separately in 2021. While I did not look for ads necessarily (since I had a lot of providers in my phone), I did notice the ads. They posted quite a bit wrt explicit services and rates. The pool in the back - multiple providers with multiple hobbyists at the same time. I knew after the first few times I went there and saw the setup, I thought this was probably not the right place to be. Just way too open. I remember walking through the house with a provider I always would see and noticing a couple in the pool. Noticing a couple on a couch. There were refreshments everywhere. Just not good judgement.

Found out from a provider that was there but stopped going there that it was under surveillance for months. I am sure they had pictures of people going in and out, cars, etc. I was fortunate not be wrapped up in this but it taught me to be much more careful. It is not just known providers, good reviews, established. Good judgement is more than that too
Thanks for clarifying. I got a different impression from reading your initial report.

The Bungalow bust got a lot of attention here when it occurred, along with the Blurries. Plano PD frankly deserves a lot of credit in those two cases.
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Old Yesterday, 08:27 PM   #73
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I'm assuming this bust was done at a home? Am i correct?
Have there been any other prostitution stings targeting escorts or John's in plano?

You honestly need to stop. Between repeating the same questions here and via PM and now this-- give it a rest.
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Old Yesterday, 08:31 PM   #74
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Thanks for clarifying. I got a different impression from reading your initial report.

The Bungalow bust got a lot of attention here when it occurred, along with the Blurries. Plano PD frankly deserves a lot of credit in those two cases.
Yep. Tying it to the OP and the general gist of this thread… I was seeing providers that were well known, I had known them for years. But on top of all of that, hobbyists should be aware of circumstances and anything so blatantly flagrant (no matter how well known/reputable the providers are) should make one re-evaluate. Clearly I was taking a risk - I did not appreciate it to the extent I should have. From that day, I stopped responding or looking at ads, just used providers who were pretty much known and under the radar-ish. Limited ads, and eventually ended up with the same 3-4 providers. Just my recommendation to help others now….
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Old Yesterday, 08:52 PM   #75
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Depressing but excellent advice Ohio State Buckeye. The Bungalow in the middle of suburbs in a house was wild. I almost went and saw Dani there. Ty Jesus...
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