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Old 09-19-2012, 09:51 AM   #61
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I understand guys want to passion but i keep my personal out of it. period. i dont let every tom dick and harry in. and if thats a problem i guess it will remain slow for me. im not going to fake anything with anyone, if i enjoy you you will know if not im sorry i will try my best to make sure you have a great time but once again being fake gets you no where and if you woulf rather have fake than real by all means go on... ill keep to my corner.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:13 AM   #62
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I am sorry Ms Angel eyes, I guess I did not make myself clear and I could not edit my previous post. As far as providers who provide real passion in their session, those particular providers are very few and far between, and it is quite obvious that you do not have that type of passion as a provider. What I was referring to is illusion of passion (IOP), Or what I would jokingly refer to, a "mattress actress". You can call it fake if you like, but in my opinion, the passionate service is what separates great and ATF Providers from the rest of the pack.


I understand that you cannot be all things to all people, but hobbyists are paying you for that passionate service level and if you think that providing a passionate service level is "too personal" for you, don't accept a hobbyists money and send him on his way to possibly find another provider.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:21 AM   #63
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I know a lot of people have suggested that you travel, but think twice before you do. The economy here in OKC is better than most, but we still have girls cancelling or shortening trips due to lack of business. Do extensive research before you travel.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:16 PM   #64
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When buying a house a person usually wants a house that is different or unique from other houses in the neighborhood. Very seldom do people want "cookie cutter" houses. It is in my opinion the same with providers. I have said it many times, and I will say it again. Gentlemen spending their hard earned cash, want personal attention. You don't have to fall in love with them, but you have to give that illusion. Guys know we have personal lives, and they expect that we all or most of us have "significant others", besides the industry. If you want repeat clientelle, you haved to offer EXCEPTIONAL service, and make them want to return to see you. If you just do "cookie cutter service", and do not offer the ILLUSION that the gentlemen wants then I am afraid you will loose out on a repeat visit. If a guy just wants cookie cutter, then he has a wife or gf for that. HE WANTS WHAT HE CANNOT GET ELSEWHERE, and that is why he uses these sites to see us. This in no way reflects anyone here on the hobby board, but an opinion was asked, and I just felt I needed to put my 2cents in. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE SAYING "SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE"?? One cannot expect to rise to the top without EARNING the spot....
AGAIN...Treat them EXCEPTIONAL and UNIQUE service and watch and see how your business becomes successful. SUCCESS IS EARNED AND NOT GIVEN... MELISSA012
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:48 PM   #65
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I'm sure people who work at McDonalds hate to clean the grill... but if they don't clean the grill they'll quickly find themselves out of a job.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:53 PM   #66
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I understand guys want to passion but i keep my personal out of it. period. i dont let every tom dick and harry in. and if thats a problem i guess it will remain slow for me. im not going to fake anything with anyone, if i enjoy you you will know if not im sorry i will try my best to make sure you have a great time but once again being fake gets you no where and if you woulf rather have fake than real by all means go on... ill keep to my corner.
IMO... If you don't enjoy your time with some client and you can't fake it, then you would be better served by giving that gentleman his money back and cancelling the appointment. A client spends his hard earned money to enjoy himself during a session, not to be disappointed by someone who isn't enjoying themselves.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:57 PM   #67
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Well said, "StillAsleep", and Ms. Grace.;....
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:59 PM   #68
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well first off i understand that and my seperation from the other girls is im genuine. Im not going to sit there and screamand moan thats insane. I enjoy the convo and a good time but like i said faking all that is crazy. I do personal to a different level i dont need to shove my tongue down a mans throat to make him feel needed or wanted. we all have our own ways so thanks for critizing...
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:40 PM   #69
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well first off i understand that and my seperation from the other girls is im genuine. Im not going to sit there and screamand moan thats insane. I enjoy the convo and a good time but like i said faking all that is crazy. I do personal to a different level i dont need to shove my tongue down a mans throat to make him feel needed or wanted. we all have our own ways so thanks for critizing...

You might take some time and tell your clients what it will takes for him to make you scream and moan for real, everybody has different things that turn them on. As long as what it takes to turn you on isn't for them to loose 30 lbs and find the fountain of youth they might be able to do it.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:06 PM   #70
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I think us guys don't want fake screaming pornstar, also do not want someone who says donate, lay there and stare at a corner of the wall and say hurry. You don't have to be my girl friend and tell me all your personal thoughts, but a smile, how are you... Just attention would be nice. I love the hobby for just meeting new people and not having to hear all the bs in dating. If I wanted that I'm sure I can find someone. Be yourself but don't be boring. God I'm rambling.sorry
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:09 PM   #71
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well first off i understand that and my seperation from the other girls is im genuine. Im not going to sit there and screamand moan thats insane. I enjoy the convo and a good time but like i said faking all that is crazy. I do personal to a different level i dont need to shove my tongue down a mans throat to make him feel needed or wanted. we all have our own ways so thanks for critizing...
I am sorry Lacey, but you still do not get it! You might be genuine, but you're genuinely not interested in doing this type of service. You are right, it is insane to moan and scream on the slightest touch, some girls are not vocal whenever they are having sex, no one would fault you on that. There are more ways that a provider can make a hobbyist feel is if they're into the session other than moaning and screaming, as an example, body language, Eye contact and even throwing in some personal affirmations would go a long way in providing IOP. I do not believe there is anyone that said that you have to shove your tongue down a man's throat in order to make him feel appreciated that he's there with you.

Here is a suggestion: when a hobbyist inquires about you and/or your services, maybe ask him what he likes, since he is going to be the one who pays for your service, and do that, but only if it is within your comfort level, as apposed to just giving him your "scripted" service.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:18 PM   #72
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Let's all meet for drinks and discuss this ha ha. Lacey you are hot though, and those eyes I bet if you made a lot of eye contact (not saying you don't cause idk) us guys would go nuts.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:24 PM   #73
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I haven't read this whole thread, I've just scouted it for a few days. Has anybody mentioned the fact that almost every day there are two or three 18 - 23 year old's showcases going up, or being modified? Jeez, this girl is playing in a crowded pool of flava-of-the-day youth. Some of them line the walls in chat, some have the pressure hustle, others run this or that special..."hey bby, hey hunny, you busy cum see me..."

Holy shit, maybe the x number of gents who bang every new under 23 year old that pops up have had their way and moved on, so maybe find a way to differentiate yourself as a specialist of some sort, whether it's massage, Russian, craft beer in the fridge, more cologne in the bathroom than Dillards, whatever, just realize the scene is awash in "you're not my BF but I'll fuck you for $" 18 to 23 year old semi-clueless ATF wannabes. You sound like a smart kid who might want to try TCCCD for a medical records specialist degree or something and get your sex thang on in your own time, with people you like instead of hoping to get paid for the walk of shame. Sorry, just sayin'.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:32 PM   #74
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Here is a thought for a side job... Xvideoslive... When it's slow do cam shows, my ex made pretty good money.. Laptop cam and checking account is all you need
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:39 PM   #75
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Now I am getting interested ... are you into bbcr?
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