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rfl · 02-22-2016, 03:10 PM

Really, who cares? Racist black leaders have taught you that saying the words "you people" is a horrible act. Just because you chose to imply meaning to a set of words doesn't mean the rest of the world should follow. Get over it and live your life based on your values. It's 2016, stop getting so offended over race.

Guest021217 · 02-22-2016, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rfl

Really, who cares? Racist black leaders have taught you that saying the words "you people" is a horrible act. Just because you chose to imply meaning to a set of words doesn't mean the rest of the world should follow. Get over it and live your life based on your values. It's 2016, stop getting so offended over race.

Are you AA? Or of a black descent such as creole?

If you answer no then you can't say anything about the situation...

When she calls people the n word thats unacceptable period we have every right to be offended

ilovethemgirls68 · 02-22-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rfl

Really, who cares? Racist black leaders have taught you that saying the words "you people" is a horrible act. Just because you chose to imply meaning to a set of words doesn't mean the rest of the world should follow. Get over it and live your life based on your values. It's 2016, stop getting so offended over race.

Seriously? Everyone knows what the "you people" comment meant. No "black leader" has to tell anyone that. It always amazes me when white people make comments like "get over race" when it's obvious from some of the post on this thread that people with your thought process are the people who can't "get over" race.

ilovethemgirls68 · 02-22-2016, 03:41 PM

Anyway, the account is closed so I'm done.

rfl · 02-22-2016, 05:03 PM

I can have an opinion and a stance on a situation regardless of my race or ethnicity. You chose to not accept people's opinions strictly based on their skin color, not me. We are all people and part of a social world together. Let race go and be happy.

rfl · 02-22-2016, 05:24 PM

What exactly does "you people" mean? To me, it means a group of people. She said no blacks, so to me, it means "blacks"...which is what she said. So, I don't see what's wrong with "you people". If you have a problem with "no blacks" or the "n word", then FINE! But this post is about "you people".

Reverse it: a black provider says, "No Caucasian, no whites, or any of you people". I understand why you wouldn't be happy about not being included, but NOBODY would be mad over the words "you people". Why? Because we all know it means white but since nobody has taught us that those 2 words were derogatory, they aren't.

My original post was talking about those two words that started this thread. But I've already been told that I can't have a logical opinion based SOLELY on the color you think my skin is. Where's the racism, really! Anyway, I choose to accept all races and live my life by my values. Unless you know me, you cannot say otherwise.

ilovethemgirls68 · 02-22-2016, 05:27 PM

conhugeco · 02-22-2016, 05:37 PM

I just want to chime in here. Saying "you people" doesn't mean anything is being disingenuous. I don't believe any reasonable person wouldn't think saying "you people" to a group of black guys, and not expect to get their asses kicked. It's all about context, and the context was pretty clear here.

Max Steed · 02-22-2016, 05:49 PM

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What exactly does "you people" mean?

"You people," is used to lump a whole culture into one derogatory and racist stereotype.

"You people," is offensive based solely on its premise.

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Anyway, I choose to accept all races and live my life by my values. Unless you know me, you cannot say otherwise.

+1

brtech · 02-22-2016, 07:22 PM

After having seen April a number of times, all i can say is she was the sweetest lady i have ever met in the hobby. I was certainly looking forward to being able to see her again. Here's wishing you the best in the future April, regardless of what you may do. If you do ever return, I certainly will be one of the first to contact you.

Guest021217 · 02-22-2016, 08:18 PM

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After having seen April a number of times, all i can say is she was the sweetest lady i have ever met in the hobby. I was certainly looking forward to being able to see her again. Here's wishing you the best in the future April, regardless of what you may do. If you do ever return, I certainly will be one of the first to contact you.

Im taking your not AA?

Of course because I wouldn't go see a whore after she called me the N word... Or used any racist words in that matter..

Lets see how yall act when the tables are turned. ..

Dorian Gray · 02-22-2016, 08:25 PM

Warum sind alle ihr Leute so Hintern diese verletzt über?
[why are all "you people" so butthurt over this?]

tok07 · 02-22-2016, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rfl

I can have an opinion and a stance on a situation regardless of my race or ethnicity. You chose to not accept people's opinions strictly based on their skin color, not me. We are all people and part of a social world together. Let race go and be happy.

Problem is 'rfl' ....PEOPLE know that racism STILL exists in peoples' lives whether the real world or hobby and 'get over it' has ZERO credibility to the ones suffering the racism....!!!!

tok07 · 02-22-2016, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rfl

What exactly does "you people" mean? To me, it means a group of people. She said no blacks, so to me, it means "blacks"...which is what she said. So, I don't see what's wrong with "you people". If you have a problem with "no blacks" or the "n word", then FINE! But this post is about "you people".

Reverse it: a black provider says, "No Caucasian, no whites, or any of you people". I understand why you wouldn't be happy about not being included, but NOBODY would be mad over the words "you people". Why? Because we all know it means white but since nobody has taught us that those 2 words were derogatory, they aren't.

My original post was talking about those two words that started this thread. But I've already been told that I can't have a logical opinion based SOLELY on the color you think my skin is. Where's the racism, really! Anyway, I choose to accept all races and live my life by my values. Unless you know me, you cannot say otherwise.

Did you see my original post of Coxs' and mine PM'S....clearly she used the N-word to make sure I got her meaning of you people....!!!!

pornodave69 · 02-23-2016, 02:02 AM

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And you're assuming, just as PD is, that someone black has traumatized her. WITH ZERO PROOF of that occurrence. Could just as well be that she was off the seen going all neo-nazi or her white clients have said unless she's NBA they won't keep seeing her or she could have a new beau that says whites only.

What we do know with no assumption needed is what she actually wrote.

Read what I said again.

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Just a guess, but if she had no issues before now maybe she either had a very bad experience with a black client which caused her to leave for a while or possibly a bad experience in her personal life.

I did not assume, I said "Just a guess." A guess is an estimation. An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, in other words, that is treated for the sake of a given discussion as if it were known to be true.

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And I did not make up some kind of rationale for what she wrote from nothing. I simply pointed out her actual word uses. You on the other hand have assumed that someone has caused her harm, traumatized her and oh by the way, likely black man did it. You have nothing at all to base that on but you put that out there anyway, because, I suppose possibly in your mind,

the only way that a white woman who used to see black men but now doesn't and has began using pseudo-racist terminology in referencing them is because . . . a black man abused her. That is your logical leap. As I stated, there are many alternative and from my experience far more likely reasons that she may have "changed", most of them related to the actions of white men rather than black ones.

But I suppose we can have that discussion at another time.

"Many alternative reasons?" Really??? Because "she was off the seen (sic) going all neo-nazi or her white clients have said unless she's NBA they won't keep seeing her or she could have a new beau that says whites only" are logical possibilities why a woman who apparently never had an issue with race before suddenly starts using racial slurs in public and private conversations where none of these people would see those comments?

Someone who never had a problem with race before doesn't just go full blown racist unless some traumatic experience took place. That is a VERY logical GUESS. It's not the "the only (reason) why a white woman who used to see black men but now doesn't and has begun using pseudo-racist terminology" but it makes a lot more sense than a sudden conversion to neo-nazis or other scenarios.

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"You people," is used to lump a whole culture into one derogatory and racist stereotype.

"You people," is offensive based solely on its premise.

Not always. Depends on the context. No different than "y'all" or "you guys" in many cases. (See my "these people" reference above.) However, this doesn't have the appearance of that situation.