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Old 03-15-2011, 03:40 PM   #76
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ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh you are killing me here (no offense)....... anything social science or matters of how people interact and what is seen good vs bad behaviour is never objective. Can`t be. If you look at historical facts on how society changes, or even on how interpretations of historical facts change according belief models (which vary) the subject is in, you will find no objectivity......
Save some of those bug-eyed emotacons for me
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:42 PM   #77
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Save some of those bug-eyed emotacons for me
did i steal them all? I love these emoticons here.. I hope you are not offended, i did not mean it in that way.
you might want to read this blog on objectivity and social science:
http://understandingsociety.blogspot...-sciences.html

"It is unquestionably true that scientific research is interest-relative: what particular features of the social system, what aspects of action, and what causal processes, are selected for scrutiny and explanation, are dependent on the interests--both intellectual and moral--of the investigator. "

that is what is called a bias.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:42 PM   #78
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ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh you are killing me here (no offense)....... anything social science or matters of how people interact and what is seen good vs bad behaviour is never objective. Can`t be. If you look at historical facts on how society changes, or even on how interpretations of historical facts change according belief models (which vary) the subject is in, you will find no objectivity......
no objectivity = no truth....
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:46 PM   #79
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did i steal them all? I love these emoticons here.. I hope you are not offended, i did not mean it in that way.
not offended.....I think you are super smart and I like to read what you write....help yourself to all the emoticons you like, I'll get us more.....
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:46 PM   #80
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no objectivity = no truth....
you are right, the system of truth is very complicated and complex. There is no "one truth"
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:47 PM   #81
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not offended.....I think you are super smart and I like to read what you write....help yourself to all the emoticons you like, I'll get us more.....
oooooohhhhh.... thanks for the flowers.....i enjoy discussing with you. Its fun - even if we disagree sometimes :-) .
ps: I edited my last post and put something interesting to read for you there....if you like .....
http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=77

and thanks again for your book recommendation. Sounds great. will read!
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:49 PM   #82
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oooooohhhhh.... thanks for the flowers.....i enjoy discussing with you. Its fun - even if we disagree sometimes :-)
I suspect we disagree a lot, but so what......
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:50 PM   #83
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you are right, the system of truth is very complicated and complex. There is no "one truth"
I misled you with that comment.....I am a believer in ultimate truths
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:51 PM   #84
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I suspect we disagree a lot, but so what......
Disagreeing with you is fun :-). you`re right ... so what?
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:53 PM   #85
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I misled you with that comment.....I am a believer in ultimate truths
This is an interesting topic to discuss. It is indeed very complex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth#T...ories_of_truth

its a material i have to get myself deeper into in the future. I have not read much about all of these theories either...
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:15 PM   #86
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I am pretty blunt. I had a guy call today who, once I walked him through the process and we were good to go, said
"So how do you feel about bi-sexual men?"
To which I replied
"I feel like hanging up the phone now!"

I mean, do whatever you want, but why would someone put that out there like that??
Wow, ummmmm, really? Am I totally misreading your comment, or is this really what you intended to say -- i.e., that you had a perfectly polite and curteous conversation with a potential client, and everything seemed fine, but when he suggested that he swings both ways, that was a deal-killer for you? I have to confess, I'm really new to this lifestyle, but this board is about the last place I would have expected to see such cavalier and utterly-gratuitous-to-the-topic-at-hand homophobia.

And, for the record, I'm pretty much a 0 on the Kinsey 0-6 scale, but have many GLBT friends and am a strong ally of GLBT rights, marriage equality, etc.

And, look, when it comes to how an escort defines her limits, and what she chooses to do or not do and with whom -- at the end of the day, my belief in personal bodily integrity trumps all else, and I don't believe (obviously not a legal matter, but nor do I believe as a matter of principle) that an escort is a "common carrier" to whom the civil rights laws apply.

You're certainly free to have a "no blacks" or "no Hispanics" or "no Irish" or "no bisexual men" policy, and that's obviously entirely your prerogative. But that said, it's equally my prerogative to conclude that you're a racist (in the former cases) or a homophobe (in the latter)...
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:26 PM   #87
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for me if he has referenses and he passes my screening I proced to our apointment. But if he doesnt pass the screning I tell him sorry i cant see you because I need at list 2 references and have a good day. simple
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:18 AM   #88
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Curious Cat, I can see both sides of this. Gay rights is my biggest issue, so please do not assume that I am homophobic in any way. I can see your side for obvious reasons, but I can also see her side because:

1) In the game of odds, bisexual men (as a group) are far more likely to have HIV than straight men.
2) His mention of his bisexuality could be considered inappropriate because sexual topics are best not mentioned during initial contact.

I am playing devil's advocate here. In other words, I am not sure of her reasoning, but I'm also not quick to judge without further information.
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