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01-04-2026, 11:53 AM
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Trump just posted this video about Dominion voting machine fraud.
You think the timing is coincidence?
A Venezuelan Military Intelligence whistleblower confirmed the CIA outsources election rigging technology like Smartmatic and Dominion from Venezuela.
Trump just posted this video about Dominion voting machine fraud.
You think the timing is coincidence?
A Venezuelan Military Intelligence whistleblower confirmed the CIA outsources election rigging technology like Smartmatic and Dominion from Venezuela.
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01-04-2026, 11:57 AM
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WRONG AGAIN. But don't take my word for it. Here's a video clip of your dear leader saying that Machado won't be the next one up for Maduro's seat.
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mbjwyfd6cf2s
Are you going to believe that BS "source" you quoted, or dear leader himself? Seems to be quite the pickle you're in there.
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He changed his mind.
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01-04-2026, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by oldman2525
No congressional approval needed and ur post is nothing but a bunch of assumptions. Unless u have ur ear in places other than cnn and msnbc. It's all ur opinion which we all know is far left.
Amazing ,where was all ur concern when Obama did alot more shit than this?
We didn't take the oil from Iraq and we ain't doing it here
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It's hard to fathom a post to be more wrong than this. From beginning to end - especially that last part - it's so woefully incorrect.
This was a naked oil grab, plain and simple. I mean, trump's already inviting top American oil company execs to come pick over the carcas, for fuck's sake. Where do you get your (very faulty) information?
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01-04-2026, 12:05 PM
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He changed his mind.
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Lol. Bullshit.
She won the Nobel. He didn't. You don't know him very well if you think he's not going to be a petty, vindictive, little cunt about that.
Machado will never be in power in Venezuela as long as trump's alive (which the overwhelming majority of the world is hoping won't be much longer).
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01-04-2026, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
we didn't invade Venezuela we arrested Maduro
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So, the bombs going off were just part of the show, then? Nice little narrative you got there. It's 1000% horseshit, but MAGA never lets facts get in the way of a good narrative.
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01-04-2026, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jayzee43
Lol. Bullshit.
She won the Nobel. He didn't. You don't know him very well if you think he's not going to be a petty, vindictive, little cunt about that.
Machado will never be in power in Venezuela as long as trump's alive (which the overwhelming majority of the world is hoping won't be much longer).
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No bullshit. This is the same AI I used yesterday. I framed the question exactly the same way.
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No, Donald Trump does not support Maria Corina Machado; he stated that she does not have the respect or support within Venezuela to govern. Instead, he indicated that the U.S. would run the country until a proper transition could occur.
Al Jazeera Go.com
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Run along now
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01-04-2026, 12:52 PM
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It’s not a bad thing to get rid of oppressive dictators and well within the president’s authority.
The U.S. Constitution designates the President as Commander in Chief (Article II, Section 2), granting broad authority to direct military forces for limited operations, including law enforcement support abroad. This operation—framed by the administration as executing a valid U.S. arrest warrant on an indicted foreign national (Maduro faced 2020 narco-terrorism and drug trafficking charges, with a $50 million bounty)—drew on precedents like the 1989 capture of Panama's Manuel Noriega, conducted without congressional authorization.
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You are correct that the President does have the Authority to direct the military for limited operations. However the War Powers Resolution limits said actions to 60 days. The first boat strikes occurred back in early September. Well past the 60 day limit that the War Powers Resolution enacts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
A lot of partisan MAGA supporters seem to believe that opposing the president’s use of military power is somehow unpatriotic but I would disagree. I want the President to follow the law and that includes getting congressional approval before starting a military campaign to overthrow a foreign regime.
In my opinion it’s extremely short sighted to allow any president unfettered use of military power either MAGA, Republican or Democrat. (note that I do not see the current MAGA party as the Republican party.)
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Part 2 - does the current mayor of NYC support capitalism?
The answer is no. This is where your party is heading and you gleefully vote for this. Not sure how you can say you don’t know any Dem that “wants to abolish capitalism”.
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If you believe that a democratic socialist like Mamdani opposes capitalism then you should read up on the differences between Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy.
People who support Democratic Socialism do oppose capitalism. People who support Social Democracy support capitalism but with guardrails.
Very few people in America are actual socialists. The vast majority support some form of social democracy. Like Social Security and Medicare for example.
Read about it here. https://goodparty.org/blog/article/s...atic-socialism
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01-04-2026, 01:50 PM
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01-04-2026, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
No bullshit. This is the same AI I used yesterday. I framed the question exactly the same way.
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No, donald trump does not support Maria Corina Machado; he stated that she does not have the respect or support within Venezuela to govern. Instead, he indicated that the U.S. would run the country until a proper transition could occur.
Al Jazeera Go.com
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He shot the idea of Machado running the country down before you even posted your first WRONG comment yesterday. It's one of the first things he said about the situation. He didn't "change his mind". You assumed he'd be cool with it. He wasn't. WRONG AGAIN.
She will never preside over Venezuela as long as trump is alive. Election integrity be damned (as if trump gives a fuck about election integrity to begin with). He's going to be a petty, vindictive, little cunt to her because she won the Nobel and he didn't. There's nothing more to it. trump's a cunt.
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01-04-2026, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
You are correct that the President does have the Authority to direct the military for limited operations. However the War Powers Resolution limits said actions to 60 days. The first boat strikes occurred back in early September. Well past the 60 day limit that the War Powers Resolution enacts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
A lot of partisan MAGA supporters seem to believe that opposing the president’s use of military power is somehow unpatriotic but I would disagree. I want the President to follow the law and that includes getting congressional approval before starting a military campaign to overthrow a foreign regime.
In my opinion it’s extremely short sighted to allow any president unfettered use of military power either MAGA, Republican or Democrat. (note that I do not see the current MAGA party as the Republican party.)
If you believe that a democratic socialist like Mamdani opposes capitalism then you should read up on the differences between Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy.
People who support Democratic Socialism do oppose capitalism. People who support Social Democracy support capitalism but with guardrails.
Very few people in America are actual socialists. The vast majority support some form of social democracy. Like Social Security and Medicare for example.
Read about it here. https://goodparty.org/blog/article/s...atic-socialism
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Your 1st point about the boat strikes and the “60 day clock” are irrelevant IMO. The strikes on the drug boats themselves targeted private owners and operators (cartels), not the Venezuelan state directly, based on available evidence.
As far as Mamdani and this is very related to the socialist mess Maduro made in Venezuela as the poverty rate is off the charts. Mamdani does identify as a democratic socialist (see your words above and what that means).
Many of his campaign promises were explicitly anti-capitalist, focusing on decommodifying essential services, expanding public ownership to counter corporate profiteering, and funding initiatives through wealth redistribution.
I can call out specific bullet points but don’t want to go off topic.
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01-04-2026, 03:47 PM
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Let’s get back on topic this thread is about the arrest of Maduro and not NY
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01-04-2026, 04:16 PM
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Your 1st point about the boat strikes and the “60 day clock” are irrelevant IMO. The strikes on the drug boats themselves targeted private owners and operators (cartels), not the Venezuelan state directly, based on available evidence.
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The Navy has been camped out in the caribbean carrying out a campaign against Venezuela since August.
The United States has significantly increased its naval presence in the Caribbean, particularly near Venezuela, as part of a military operation aimed at interdicting vessels suspected of drug trafficking. This operation, known as Operation Southern Spear, began in August 2025 and has involved various military assets.
If you don’t think that has anything to do with the actions to depose Maduro then you’re either mistaken or possibly delusional.
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01-04-2026, 04:20 PM
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JUST IN: VENEZUELANS LEAVE NYC FOR CARACAS TO ESCAPE SOCIALISM AGAIN. And away from Maduro, who’s incarcerated in NYC.
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01-04-2026, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
The Navy has been camped out in the caribbean carrying out a campaign against Venezuela since August.
The United States has significantly increased its naval presence in the Caribbean, particularly near Venezuela, as part of a military operation aimed at interdicting vessels suspected of drug trafficking. This operation, known as Operation Southern Spear, began in August 2025 and has involved various military assets.
If you don’t think that has anything to do with the actions to depose Maduro then you’re either mistaken or possibly delusional.
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So does the US have a right to protect its borders from those that wish to do us harm, in this case narco boats headed to the US?
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01-04-2026, 07:41 PM
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So does the US have a right to protect its borders from those that wish to do us harm, in this case narco boats headed to the US?
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Sure we do. That’s what the coast guard does. Search, Seizure, and Prosecution. The military has a different policy. Kill and destroy. Not the same thing. The president needs congressional approval if he wants to wage a military campaign against a foreign power. Which he didn’t get.
I’ll reiterate, Giving the president regardless of his political affiliation the ability to declare a defacto war on a foreign country is an extremely bad idea.
We don’t live in China or Russia. Our leaders are required by law to request permission before an extended military operation can be conducted. Period.
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