Escorts Using Government Assistance

[Anita Lay]

Doesn't matter if you are bipolar, you have enough sense to figure something out.(compliment Rayne)
Its funny how some of these ladies that has NO CHILDREN could even post how they disagree with govt asst for CHILDREN just because the momma is a Ho...
Good month or bad month wiht ANY TYPE of working there should be something to fall back on for those KIDS. A safety net is better than nothing so the kids don't guy without.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Naughty Destiny

YES!
Seeing an escort is a luxury, not a necessity to stay alive.

Word!

[London Rayne]

Double WORD!

[Naughty Destiny]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

(by the way , that is the cleverest excuse for not paying taxes..... i can`t because its illegal)

I didn't say anything about not paying taxes....

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Guilty Pleasures

Well sort of incorrect, yes you can get government assistance under certain circumstances, unable to work, disability that qualifies you and being at the retirement age. But all these things require proof including disability (you have to have had at least been jobless due to your illness for up to one year) not too mention you go through a year or more of denied application. The process is slow for someone who qualifies and needs the assistance.

I know, believe me. Years ago i wired some significant amount of money to a friend of mine and his girlfriend in San Francisco (they did not ask for it, i forced them to take my money....) because he all of a sudden got a severe back injury and the system was too slow to take him in. He was about to loose his apartment and everything. That is very bad in USA, i have to say. Even more reason to not make my services "cheap" and save more money up.

So, on the other hand you are stating the exact things that entitle someone to be on "the system". Someone who can work as escort is not on the list. They are neither extremely sick and/or disabled and unable to work. That is my point.

And all that thing about escorts being depressive and that is the only job they can do. I had a lot of women telling me the same. But they don`t see that in any regular job you get more support and are automatically less depressive. In escorting you have to be strong and put together. Being a wreck psychologically makes you be careless and make mistakes and also unable to "defend" yourself towards certain claims or needs clients have. We have to see it from that perspective as well. All that barebacking probably would not happen if some people really had their act together. So at least they should try to get a regular job, because when you are depressed (and i am psychologist) regularity and a clear cut day is the best antidepressant. As is sleep deprivation and psychopharmaka.
Having unstable days, clients every once and a way, does only assist the depression, NOT you. If you act like that you will never get out of the loop.

That said, some people are just too lazy for whatever reason to earn a regular income. You might work "less" as an escort, but the work affects you "psychologically" way more than it does within a regular job. I know that, been there done that. There is no comparison. Plus, the social side of escorting. You are an outsider always having a little secret and a little different timetable than all your friends - no matter how accepting your enviroment. That all is rather supporting depressions than helping it.

[London Rayne]

I think ANYTHING a woman is doing not for herself, but her children should not be up for debate. Not all of us have the sense or even the means to make or manage money. Our children should not be the ones to suffer for our stupidity.

[NinaBrooke]

I know too many stories first hand of ladies who don't fit the model of many here. The ladies on this board are a minority of the escorts, and generally the ones who have made good. I truly am happy for them. To think all the others are welfare cheating drug addicts is beyond self righteous.[/SIZE]

No it isn`t. we all started from scratch at some point. You are probably referring to the middle class snobbish escorts who have no idea of a life beyond having functioning families. Here i agree. But, we are not one of them. I do not want to go in details about my life, but granted, things weren`t rosy either. And i could have - but never did - lived of welfare. I always worked no matter what kind of job no matter what depressions ( and believe me i know a great f-ing deal about that too, as i am sure many of us do here) or fancy excuses some people have. I know people living of welfare who are lazy. I don`t say it`s all of them. But most of them are simply to snobbish to live beyond a certain lifestyle and have their nose up high when offered jobs: "Oh this job is not good enough, oh i can`t possibly sit on the phone all day, for THAT money, oh cleaning toilets is for immigrants......i am too good to even try, oh this and oh that. I mean, really.

How is it possible to be on welfare or social money in the USA and declare additional income? Is it like in Europe where you can earn about 300 dollar extra without getting off welfare? The problem i have is that many women don`t claim their extra income. And women who are not smart enough to "not" work out of their own apartment ? I mean you can`t tell me they file taxes for extra income or even loose a word about it? How can you live in government assistant houses AND put the adress on backpage, so everyone knows? That is NOT smart to say the least.

I am all about helping people, as i said one of my lovers is working with street escorts in Portugal who have severe drug issues as well, and i have witnessed a lot of that kind of "attitude" too. They might be good people but they need help for sure. At least on how to conduct business right. Even if you do it for drugs, doesn`t matter.

[pyramider]

Then the booger eaters should pick better parents?

Nina, I believe depression is a subgroup of bipolar disorder in today's psychobabble.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I think ANYTHING a woman is doing not for herself, but her children should not be up for debate. Not all of us have the sense or even the means to make or manage money. Our children should not be the ones to suffer for our stupidity.

I agree. ANd i bet a million that many escorts are better mothers than some ordinary women out there .
But children need a functioning mother and if the kids need support they cannot be supported if their mother is a wreck, because she is doing everything for the kids and ruining herself down the road.
How is social system for women with kids and no income? Do they get some support for their families? How does that work?

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Nina, I believe depression is a subgroup of bipolar disorder in today's psychobabble.

Depression and bipolar disorders are two different diagnoses, although bipolars have depressive episodes of course.
Bipolar is "psychosis" and depressions are still "neurosis". That is the difference in evaluations.
Also they vary in treatment. You can`t treat bipolars with the same medications like you treat depressions because it makes them switch to a manic episode. You need mood stabilizers. Most of them help to "catch" the depression , but it is still hard to deal with the manic episode without regular tranquilizers , which then make you depressed more (dependencies aside). It`s a very difficult agenda. I am glad i am not bipolar , although i wish sometimes i have some manic highs :-)). Women with bulimic eating disorders most often develop bipolar disorders as well, as the eating disorder messes up the brain functions and endorphine levels.

After drug abuse you have something called a "artificial psychosis" which is artificial because it is not inherent, its a side effect of the drug weaning off. So bipolar plays a role here too.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Anita Lay

Doesn't matter if you are bipolar, you have enough sense to figure something out.(compliment Rayne)
Its funny how some of these ladies that has NO CHILDREN could even post how they disagree with govt asst for CHILDREN just because the momma is a Ho...
Good month or bad month wiht ANY TYPE of working there should be something to fall back on for those KIDS. A safety net is better than nothing so the kids don't guy without.

How do you know they don't have children???

[Naughty Destiny]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I think ANYTHING a woman is doing not for herself, but her children should not be up for debate.

Do you think it's okay for a mother to steal from others to support her kids?

[Anita Lay]

Talking about the ones that don't (real specific) ... have no right to make a call on such a thing for the fact that have not lived in the situation. just saying. Not talking about speculations.. talking about the facts on the REAL EXPEIRENCE.
example- I can't say I know what its like to be homeless so I can't account for such a thing and have no right to say anything.
I was a single mother at one time and went through a short spell where I needed help, lived in a small town and very few jobs.

As london said- Our children should not be the ones to suffer for our stupidity

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Then the booger eaters should pick better parents?


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Nope, children deserve the best. And they deserve support of course. But i was arguing from a different level. Some people are reckless enough to drag children into their "shit" and that is bad too. What happened to safe sex?

That said, i do support children getting support financially, and their mothers get help, too. But there is something wrong, when someone needs to go escorting because the money lacks everywhere. That is bad support. Seems the OWS movement is not so wrong after all. And if they do go escorting they should do it right. Especially for the children. That is what i think. So, they need support concerning their kids and concerning their jobs. And they have a right to get that support. If not from the state, we as escorts should probably volunteer to help. Specially when kids are involved.

[Anita Lay]

Some ppl want to analyze and dissect the simple answer to death.
The end result is what is best for the CHILDREN.
We are not talking about using the govt and not bettering ones situation and there are some that do just that.. yep..
Talking about govt benefits FOR THE KIDS... doesn't matter to me if the mother is a escort or a woman that is lazy.. The kids don't need to be victims of circumstances.