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Old 06-20-2017, 10:13 PM   #1036
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Says you...the issue hasn't been visited by SCOTUS... which will rule in Trumps favor. The law is clear on this. He can regulate as he sees fit in this area.
You know about as much about the law as a pig knows about Sunday School.
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:15 PM   #1037
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You are one serious unbalanced fuck...and I hope u have trans kids and grandkids...karma is a bitch for bigots and punks like you
He's an irremediable bigot just like Trump. We should probably stop feeding the trolls. They've grown tiresome. He doesn't need trans grandkids. His hell is going through life ignorant and afraid of his own shadow. He, and all his ilk, will die scared and fearful of the every evolving world around them. And bitching about where their job went because they think the world owes them a living because they're white and have a dick.
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I doubt that very much. If you saw me, you'd know I think they were all scoundrels (and that's being way more polite than necessary). The majority are just greedy a-holes... America can survive that...
America will not survive this level of greed.

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it's the ones that want to control everyone else that scare the shit out of me. They, like the Hezbollah folks I met in Lebanon, are true f*cking Believers... with a big B.
They won't stop until every last liberty in America is extinguished in their pursuit of "what's best for all of us".
Believers in what? I'm not following. God?

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Trump may be a douche, clueless, a big mouth, all that and more.... but he is not a true believer.
I'll wait for clarification on the believer bit, but on the rest, he is your president. A clueless, big mouthed douche and more should not be the leader of the free world. Forget big mouthed douche. If you're clueless, you shouldn't be in charge of anything.

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Disarm the nation, put all their medical needs under govt. control, pretty much assures that Orwell was right about the future.
No one has tried to disarm the nation. This is a lie. When you have people marching against Sharia Law, that doesn't actually exist here, armed to the teeth with guns that Obama tried so hard to take from them, it's time to give up the false victimization. Seriously. Stop it.

As for medical needs, that's a whole other discussion. But tax the churches and you'll have plenty of money to heal the sick. I can't think of a better source of funding than those who claim to be followers of Christ. WWJD?
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:52 PM   #1039
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Trump racism: Mexicans are rapists. Don't want black guys handling my money. Removing black employees from the floor of casinos when he came. Housing discrimination suit. Central Park Five. Supporting Republican voter suppression tactics. Racists on White House Staff. Refusal to denounce David Duke and the Klan. Judge can't be fair "because he's a Mexican." ". . . Laziness is a trait in blacks." Being a proponent of fake and racist Obama birth certificate controversy. I could go 0n. That's justboff the top of my head.
with all respect, you're asking ppl to condemn behavior of trump when they agree to a large degree with what he says. they love him and will support him to the bitter end precisely because he says stuff they themselves cant say, atleast in public. the non racist supporters that voted for him with the hope he was "going to shake up the culture in DC and get things done and he's going to bring our well paying blue collar jobs back" long fled from his camp or are atleast packing their bags after seeing the man-baby retard in action over past few months. you can clearly see the type that are still delusional over the type of leader he is and the man he always was.
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:06 AM   #1040
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You know about as much about the law as a pig knows about Sunday School.
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“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restriction he may deem to be appropriate.”
So we know the 9th is liberal leaning... but it didn't even bother to discuss the statute in it's finding. When this hits SCOTUS, the above is the only thing that that's going to matter.
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:09 AM   #1041
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He's an irremediable bigot just like Trump. We should probably stop feeding the trolls. They've grown tiresome. He doesn't need trans grandkids. His hell is going through life ignorant and afraid of his own shadow. He, and all his ilk, will die scared and fearful of the every evolving world around them. And bitching about where their job went because they think the world owes them a living because they're white and have a dick.
Fuck lot you know about me then. The world doesn't owe me shit and I've never taken anything I haven't earned. Just because you never got over your patchouli smokin glory days of the 60's doesn't mean you have to continue on being a libtard.
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:33 AM   #1042
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America will not survive this level of greed.
Sure it will. Just as it survived the teapot dome scandal, the gilded age, the 1920's etc.. America can survive greed because greed doesn't have an ideology.

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Believers in what? I'm not following. God?
In their ideology... their misguided belief that socialism is the path to "the perfect man". The fools advocating increased govt. control over every aspect of our lives do so from places where they won't be affected by uncontrolled illegal immigration, street violence, piss poor schools, and shitty job opportunities.

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I'll wait for clarification on the believer bit, but on the rest, he is your president. A clueless, big mouthed douche and more should not be the leader of the free world. Forget big mouthed douche. If you're clueless, you shouldn't be in charge of anything.
Why do you think there's something special about the assholes in DC? They shit on the pot and put their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us. I'd rather have a foul mouthed, douche bag at the helm than some smarmy fuck who's colluding with the rest of the so-called governing class to fuck us out of jobs, school reform, and a stronger economy. There is a reason the wealthiest counties in America surround DC. It's called graft and corruption. The Framers understood that and that's why the whole idea of keeping govt. small is important... it prevents the politicians from robbing the rest of us blind. The govt. is the single largest employer in the Country!..For fuck's sake, they need that many employees to take our taxes and redistribute it? That does not compute.

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No one has tried to disarm the nation. This is a lie.
What do you think the point of operation Fast and Furious was? What sense does it make to force US gun sellers to illegally sell to Mexican cartels? Not a lot of sense, unless your goal is to use the pretense of increased border violence as a way to enact stricter gun control measures. The ground work was laid, they just got busted in the act is all. There is a reason the story is basically embargoed by the networks... because they support the Democrat plans to disarm the populace.

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When you have people marching against Sharia Law, that doesn't actually exist here,
Never been to Dearbornistan then? Sharia law exists enough in some communities for medical centers in the area to record at least 130 examples of Female genital mutilation. Yeah, the crazy goat fuckers like to cut little girls clits off so they aren't tempted by the devil to have sex. Of Course, that's not so different than liberals advocating sex changes for pre-pubescent children.

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armed to the teeth with guns that Obama tried so hard to take from them, it's time to give up the false victimization. Seriously. Stop it.
I don't believe anyone claimed victim status. See actually raisng the topic is not an attempt to be a victim...it's just trying to pull some of your heads out of the collective sand...

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As for medical needs, that's a whole other discussion. But tax the churches and you'll have plenty of money to heal the sick. I can't think of a better source of funding than those who claim to be followers of Christ. WWJD?
Well as long as you can concede that medical care is not a human right... as soon as you go there, then that gives the govt. the right to do anything in the name of human rights... and frankly I prefer what our Founders came up with... life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but our Social betters have been hell bent since the 30's (after being inspired by Mussolini) to make all kinds of shit a right of citizenship. That's a misguided and foolish project. Life is hard and unfair. It's harder and more unfair if you are stupid. Stupid by definition cannot be fixed. 50% of the population is more stupid than the other 50%...therefore the only way to enforce equality is to strip the less stupid of their property and labor. It can done, after all you only need to convince 1% of the less stupid they will be better off.
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Sure it will. Just as it survived the teapot dome scandal, the gilded age, the 1920's etc.. America can survive greed because greed doesn't have an ideology.

In their ideology... their misguided belief that socialism is the path to "the perfect man". The fools advocating increased govt. control over every aspect of our lives do so from places where they won't be affected by uncontrolled illegal immigration, street violence, piss poor schools, and shitty job opportunities.

Why do you think there's something special about the assholes in DC? They shit on the pot and put their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us. I'd rather have a foul mouthed, douche bag at the helm than some smarmy fuck who's colluding with the rest of the so-called governing class to fuck us out of jobs, school reform, and a stronger economy. There is a reason the wealthiest counties in America surround DC. It's called graft and corruption. The Framers understood that and that's why the whole idea of keeping govt. small is important... it prevents the politicians from robbing the rest of us blind. The govt. is the single largest employer in the Country!..For fuck's sake, they need that many employees to take our taxes and redistribute it? That does not compute.

What do you think the point of operation Fast and Furious was? What sense does it make to force US gun sellers to illegally sell to Mexican cartels? Not a lot of sense, unless your goal is to use the pretense of increased border violence as a way to enact stricter gun control measures. The ground work was laid, they just got busted in the act is all. There is a reason the story is basically embargoed by the networks... because they support the Democrat plans to disarm the populace.

Never been to Dearbornistan then? Sharia law exists enough in some communities for medical centers in the area to record at least 130 examples of Female genital mutilation. Yeah, the crazy goat fuckers like to cut little girls clits off so they aren't tempted by the devil to have sex. Of Course, that's not so different than liberals advocating sex changes for pre-pubescent children.

I don't believe anyone claimed victim status. See actually raisng the topic is not an attempt to be a victim...it's just trying to pull some of your heads out of the collective sand...

Well as long as you can concede that medical care is not a human right... as soon as you go there, then that gives the govt. the right to do anything in the name of human rights... and frankly I prefer what our Founders came up with... life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but our Social betters have been hell bent since the 30's (after being inspired by Mussolini) to make all kinds of shit a right of citizenship. That's a misguided and foolish project. Life is hard and unfair. It's harder and more unfair if you are stupid. Stupid by definition cannot be fixed. 50% of the population is more stupid than the other 50%...therefore the only way to enforce equality is to strip the less stupid of their property and labor. It can done, after all you only need to convince 1% of the less stupid they will be better off.

Huh?
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Any restrictions on entry, the President makes, must still be lawful. He's not the ultimate authority. He has checks to his powers and in Trumps case, his own mouth checked his power.
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Any restrictions on entry, the President makes, must still be lawful. He's not the ultimate authority. He has checks to his powers and in Trumps case, his own mouth checked his power.
Then tell me what was unlawful about the order? Not what the court said because the 9th is full of whack jobs... but what specifically in that order violated the statute quoted? And it can't be that it targeted muslims since clearly only 7 nations were targeted and 40 some odd other muslim nations were not.
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Huh?
it's called a back and forth, give and take, a discussion or debate... it's nice you think you're the line judge, but since you weren't part of the discussion your brilliant analysis adds nothing.
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Then tell me what was unlawful about the order? Not what the court said because the 9th is full of whack jobs... but what specifically in that order violated the statute quoted? And it can't be that it targeted muslims since clearly only 7 nations were targeted and 40 some odd other muslim nations were not.
Section 5 regarding religious minorities may or may not be. The rest of the original order maaaaaybe would have passed legal muster(even with the 9th) had he not raved on and on about banning Muslims all throughout his campaign.
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Section 5 regarding religious minorities may or may not be. The rest of the original order maaaaaybe would have passed legal muster(even with the 9th) had he not raved on and on about banning Muslims all throughout his campaign.
Its hard to say something that effectively bans Muslims from entering isn't a ban against them even though it never specifically named them.

Same as banning, .233 & 5.56 ammo would essentially ban ARs....
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TushHog, what do you think?

Since the order does recognize religious minorites doesn't that inherently recognize there is a majority?

Had he omitted the religious minor part completely, snd just said the secretary of state can use his discretion on a case by case basis (knowing full well the SS would not allow any Muslims), wouldn't the first order have been gold had he just kept quiet in the campaign?
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:39 AM   #1050
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But what the fuck does that have to do with Hillary? I don't think just because he was a loos cannon with his dick, all of sudden she's going to start fucking half the White House staff flat. His wasting of our scarce political resources to fight for our shared political beliefs has no bearing on her likelihood to do the same.
I would say it has more to do with the fact Hillery's husband was impeached over lying and obstruction of justice. "The House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice"

A trend that Hillary seemed to continue based on the FBI investigation and Coney's comments

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On another note the special election referendum on Trump by the Democrats is not going well.
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