GFE IN WTx

[Keyhole Arc Blow]

I can't think of a time where I've had an appoint that met the 3 criteria in this thread for GFE and didn't have a good time just enjoying the company of the lady.

I've seen some really great ladies that only do cbj, Akilah Rose comes to mind, and I'd still consider her GFE but my opinion might be a bit biased because we got along so well outside the sheets. Point is every lady that I've seen that offers bbbj seems to be a better bet at making you feel good besides just the tickle your pickle part.

I'm not saying that a lady that offers bbbj is guaranteed to be a better experience but I'd bet money(and have) on that assertion.

Also screw that GFE lite crap, it just muddies the waters even more than they already are.

[john_deere]

i wonder how many of the ladies agree with these definitions.

[quick draw mc graw]

^^^ Yup ^^^
It would be nice to see the point of view from other providers, the GFE & non GFE, just to get their opinion on this subject. It might shed a light on the "grey area" of the discussion...

[john_deere]

it is nebulous no matter how much some of us insist otherwise. the bottom line is, if you want certain things just fucking say so. likewise if you provide certain things. there's just no substitute for plain speaking.

[loverboy007]

I absolutely think every girl should include the listed items and anything more I can get BUT if I feel that the girl had great IOP (almost certainly requires kissing) and doesn't rush and make me feel like she is watching the clock then I would consider that GFE even if say she insists on Cbj unless of course she acts like she isn't into it. I've had all services and BBFS from girls before that I certainly wouldn't call gfe despite the list of services.

[CryptKicker]

GFE is more than just the acts performed. If you get everything from her and she acts like she hates every minute of it that isn't GFE. In addition, CBJ is NOT GFE regardless of how good the IOP is.

[dirt street cowboy]

On the other hand, if you want a true "girlfriend experience" attitude might have to go along with it. But if attitude is provided from a backpage provider, there may be an up-charge.

[john_deere]

Originally Posted by CryptKicker

GFE is more than just the acts performed.

[beyondthere]

I agree with all that has been said except....... I do not consider cim as PSE. Cim to me is just a very good GFE.

[Keyhole Arc Blow]

Originally Posted by beyondthere

I agree with all that has been said except....... I do not consider cim as PSE. Cim to me is just a very good GFE.

I don't really understand the whole GFE PSE thing, sex with your GF isn't always just slow sensual sex, you're still gonna bend her over and pound her into the mattress while pulling her hair and giving her a spank then blowing a load somewhere beside the jimmy hat.

Personally true PSE would involve everything bb, even bbfs. I'd also be hung with a 9inch cock and could bury myself balls deep during greek with seemingly no warmup on her part. Basically a pipe dream.

[john_deere]

so here's the real question… why do we even need a fucking goddamn code for girlfriend experience? or porn star experience? or any of this shit for that matter?

is it because we're too lazy to type? does it somehow stem from the absurd belief that using code will keep us out of jail? Is it because we're just dudes and we do dorky shit like that?

[Texanbychoice]

Originally Posted by john_deere

so here's the real question… why do we even need a fucking goddamn code for girlfriend experience? or porn star experience? or any of this shit for that matter?

is it because we're too lazy to type? does it somehow stem from the absurd belief that using code will keep us out of jail? Is it because we're just dudes and we do dorky shit like that?

Yes. Most men dont like typing. Its why we talk over drinking beer while women write letters and shit.

Code dont mean crap about going to jail. Agreeing to pay for the code lands your ass in jail.

Yes. We dudes do dorky shit. Anacronyms are in our blood. Its a dude thing.

[Guest020617-1]

Originally Posted by CryptKicker

In addition, CBJ is NOT GFE regardless of how good the IOP is.

[oldpun]

Anacronyms are in our blood

There should be a society for creative anacronyms.

Many years ago, the US Military set up a Committee to reduce or eliminate acronyms in the military. Of course it was known as the CREAM committee.

[john_deere]

was that before or after the super high intensity training program?