PSE ("Porn Star Experience")

[atlcomedy]

What is it? Obviously I know what the acronym means, but what is the session really like? A lot of fake moaning & acting? Dirty talk? Multiple positions? Rough? Just asking?

And what is the definition of a porn star? :mf_bluesbrot her: anybody that has had sex on film? With camera phones that will take video that seems like a low bar.

As an aside I seem to see a lot more provider ads from "porn stars" these days, yet their rates seem in line with regular providers ($200-$500/hr). I'm just saying if they were truly stars wouldn't they command more?

What about you? Does the idea of bumping uglies with a "porn star" have appeal to you? Would you pay a premium for it?

[charlestudor2005]

You probably have to put up with a video camera in the room, a few techs, some direction, and then having the session posted on the net. Short clips for free, but pay a fee for the whole session.

[BTW, you should hold out for a cut of the gross.]

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

What about you? Does the idea of bumping uglies with a "porn star" have appeal to you? Would you pay a premium for it?

No

[WTF]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

And what is the definition of a porn star? :mf_bluesbrot her: anybody that has had sex on film?

The definition is a hot naked chick on the telly talking dirty with me in the background wacking off! Its usually over before the first scene is done...



Seriously though, no PSE for me, I had 8 hotties over at my house/pool shooting some pay for view video a couple of weeks ago. Nothing sexy about it. Cast and crew wandering around everywhere while some poor girl was trying to fake an orgasm. Harder job than one would think.
The make-up artist was hot as fuc though. I spent all my time discussing blush colors with her. Any of you ladies need some fuc me make-up to doll up with, give me a call. I think I can help ya out.

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by WTF

The definition is a hot naked chick on the telly talking dirty with me in the background wacking off! Its usually over before the first scene is done...

.

You know the definition of a bad porno? You're still around to watch the credits:cl apping:

[guest060911]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

What is it? Obviously I know what the acronym means, but what is the session really like? A lot of fake moaning & acting? Dirty talk? Multiple positions? Rough? Just asking?

And what is the definition of a porn star?...

...I'm just saying if they were truly stars wouldn't they command more?

Forbes.com explains that due to the influx of free internet porn over the years, the porn industry is not making as much money as it used to. So my take is that instead of porn stars commanding higher rates, a lot of them charge similar rates to $200-$500 escorts to make ends meet. http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/04/dig...ali-joone.html

Anyway, I believe technically any lady who has sex on film for profit is a porn star, and there are both amateur and professional porn stars. I’ve noticed some escorts change their title to “porn star” after filming a couple of videos.

Now the PSE experience is not exclusive to actual porn stars, as some escorts offer it. And I understand a PSE experience to pretty much boil down to nastiness and acronyms. Some people feel PSE includes BBFS, while others believe Greek constitutes PSE. I’m not certain, but I find any experience that focuses solely on acronyms to be quite unappealing, as there’s no real focus on the person or companionship...at least from my understanding.

[wlhrgfan]

Good question actually. I've never met a provider that an experience equates to a porn star or from what I've seen true pornstars doing on film. I don't get the hike in rates either for the "so called" experience. Any time I've seen a provider and said I was looking for PSE...The following has been my experience in general when booking PSE: A) I don't kiss B) I talk a lil more Dirty than usual C) I charge you $ more for it. D) Q: (by client) is greek included? A: (by provider) Absolutely Not! Thats extra if I even do it at all (Big If)...

So what is the difference in GFE and PSE nothing but $$$ on a rate page. I don't even ask for PSE anymore, I just make appointments and see what happens cause like I said I've never met a PSE provider in the Film sense of the word and doubt most providers can live up to it. To me that elusive true PSE is like Ponce De Leon searching for the fountain...something that the fantasy always outshines the reality of it.

[gimme_that]

Most times PSE in ladies ads represents two things:

1. More ATTITUDE and criteria dealing moreso with porn star like performance of session activities than an ambiance. Fake moaning wont cut it I'm sure, but I'm sure it doesnt hurt to be expressive whether its GFE or PSE but its not a requirement and I wouldnt want someone to be overly inventive. (This still is not serviced based....but Im sure the die hard PSE enthusiasts would all but expect cfs, cim, swallows, greek, etc. virtually and all inclusive menu minus BBFS of course.)

2. Usually in ads PSE means Greek services. She could still offer CBJ and still be PSE in that instance. (of course I disagree) Has nothing to do with attitude just another sexual option merely.

I have learned there seems to be no real distinct difference between a very good GFE and PSE. Its best when you have a mesh of both in my opinion.

[Katy Alexander]

Originally Posted by WTF

Seriously though, no PSE for me, I had 8 hotties over at my house/pool shooting some pay for view video a couple of weeks ago. Nothing sexy about it. Cast and crew wandering around everywhere while some poor girl was trying to fake an orgasm. Harder job than one would think.
.

LOL, that sounds very familiar. When I lived in Amsterdam I had a couple of friends who owned some of the Live show theaters in the redlight district. The couples who worked there had sex 6-12 times a day on stage in front of a bunch of loud, rude tourists who were usually bussed in from their hotels. The women usually looked tired, and the men were bored out of their minds.

I will never forget this one couple was on stage doing doggy looking like they were trying to figure out what they wanted for dinner that night
when one of the tourists yelled up to the man "I wish I had your job" the man on stage immediately yells back "you can have it" .

The term PSE is just as useless as GFE. The are just marketing tools used with the hope of increasing business.

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by GiamarieLynn

Forbes.com explains that due to the influxSo my take is that instead of porn stars commanding higher rates, a lot of them charge similar rates to $200-$500 escorts to make ends meet. http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/04/dig...ali-joone.html

I think the term Porn Star is abused. Getting paid $150 to do a scene in a cheap hotel room makes for a porn actress, not a star.

Yes, porn stars come in varying levels. You have the amateur girls, the pro am girls and the stars. A "star" has ubiquity, is famous. They are generally signed to contracts or they are former contract girls now running their own productions. These days they make a descent penny doing feature performances at clubs and doing signings. Porn videos are considered more a promotional support tool for selling an image and building a fan base, the movies in and of themselves are not the target. There is a large marketing machine behind the most successful names in adult movies.

There's also a danger in overexposure, boring your audience if you show up in too many things. There's a fine balance of putting out enough content to keep fans interested, and waiting for the next one or having so much available they no longer notice when your new scene comes out. Many escort to supplement their income.

If you're famous, you can go a lot higher then $200 -$500 an hour. The hike in the rates is there because a lot of people fantasize about that girl specifically, and would simply love to have their moment with her. Those fans are willing to shill out extra not because of PSE menu items but because they've hypnotically watched that woman on the screen and want to be in the same room with her. With more demand, or more ardent demand, comes increased prices. Weed out people by hiking prices, but not so high that you don't make what you need. It's a matter of them finding that balance.

If you've been with Wicked or Digital Playground, they make a great income. So if they're going to escort, the number will be high, because they frankly can take it or leave it, and their level of fame is high.

But you also get mimics - Women who look at that and think: "I make a few movies and I can charge that too! Where's my iphone? "

Booking a Porn Star and booking a PSE provider, is not the same thing.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

.........
What about you? Does the idea of bumping uglies with a "porn star" have appeal to you? Would you pay a premium for it?

Generally speaking.... No! In my experience.... Bonafide Porn Stars are no more sexy-sexual, sensual, hott, etc... than the Top Shelf local or traveling escorts, here on ECCIE! Their porn work, photo work, combined with strip club promotional touring, and "on the side" escorting might, sometimes, take some energy away from their P4P escort persona. Escorting alone, can eat-up a lot of personal time, as it is!!

Having said all that.... I'd probably pay a fairly high rate for a select few!

Giz

[discreetgent]

As I understand it there is one thing that porn stars are often more amenable to than non-pornstar providers would be.

As Lauren points out the high end porn stars can charge much much higher. On another board there is what is called the 300 Club which has evolved to include porn stars who are at 500 or less/hr. The really top stars are those that can charge beyond 1k/hour and their fantasy value is sufficient that they get bookings. Briana Banks is at 4K/hour and gets bookings. A Tori Black or Jenna Haze, neither of which escorts, could almost certainly ask for 5K+/hr and get it if they decided to escort. One UTR star is around 3K/hour with a 4 hour minimum and apparently gets bookings. Sunny Lane got 6K for 3 hours at a Nevada brothel but those rates are rare and becoming rarer

[WTF]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

The really top stars are those that can charge beyond 1k/hour and their fantasy value is sufficient that they get bookings. Briana Banks is at 4K/hour and gets bookings. A Tori Black or Jenna Haze, neither of which escorts, could almost certainly ask for 5K+/hr and get it if they decided to escort. One UTR star is around 3K/hour with a 4 hour minimum and apparently gets bookings. Sunny Lane got 6K for 3 hours at a Nevada brothel but those rates are rare and becoming rarer

Golly Damn DG, you sound like the Colonel Tom Parker of XXX starlets!


Really folks, I think what they mean by PSE is they will fuc you like a porn star. Not that that actually are porn stars. Just like a Brazilian Wax does not require you fly to Brazil. Me thinks we are over thinking the question. I suspect atlcomedy was just hoping for a good reason to jizz on some hottie's face, thus the question.