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Old 07-29-2019, 04:45 PM   #16
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I agree that a hobbyist paying a provider a deposit is an awful idea. My view wouldn't change if the provider has good reviews over time. I could bore you to tears with stories about providers who were good actors for years and then suddenly flipped out.

As an aside, under Texas state law, proof that there was a payment of a fee or an acceptance of a fee isn't an element of the offense of prostitution.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:14 PM   #17
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Gosh...I had no idea your opinion towards Hookers was so beneath scum.
From what several of you posted u would hope you never contact Me!
Kiss my was never.
I entertain Gentlemen in a very safe and Fun Manner.
I've never hurt or even started problems with Men that I entertain

And for the record should I mention how many Watches, phones, keys where left at my in call and without hesitation have I ever manipulated or hurt a hobbyist I do respect my clients and am not a girl friend here...huge difference.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:23 PM   #18
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I'm the sweetest person you will ever meet..����
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:41 PM   #19
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Thanks for the commercial, VenusNova.
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:55 PM   #20
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That was your 666th post...

Hmmmm
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:02 PM   #21
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I dont believe in Numerology or any odd superstitions ����������������.
And after thinking about it.
Yhe Deposit might not be such a goo idea .
Ypu Gentlemen are right about "��issues" that i failed to freakin dig into and assume the what if wiese like for example that movie I saw recently..um..i forgot the name.
However, ya that would be fucked up looking at it from your perspective.

Deposits baaaaad idea��������
Good job!
I might have had problems.

Thank you×
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:58 PM   #22
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As an aside, under Texas state law, proof that there was a payment of a fee or an acceptance of a fee isn't an element of the offense of prostitution.
Hmmm... Not sure why I was under the wrong impression that it was. Perhaps because of my perspective?

The offer (sex act for compensation) is what matters, right?

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I dont believe in Numerology or any odd superstitions ����������������.
And after thinking about it.
Yhe Deposit might not be such a goo idea .
Ypu Gentlemen are right about "��issues" that i failed to freakin dig into and assume the what if wiese like for example that movie I saw recently..um..i forgot the name.
However, ya that would be fucked up looking at it from your perspective.

Deposits baaaaad idea��������
Good job!
I might have had problems.

Thank you×
I loved seeing the play by play of you thinking through this. Prepayment really is a bad idea for everyone in all but the most trusting of relationships.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:42 AM   #23
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If a provider was doing an outcall to you then yes a $10-$20 deposit is ok to cover the gas.

A provider is flying across statelines to see you, perfectly ok to work out a seposit arrangement.

For an incall, heck no.

And this whole make sure you see known and reputable providers before issuing deposits is a crock of bull because snything happens at a given point with the ladies as much as the men.

I'll gladly leave something on the nightstand before commencement of activities once we are BCD.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:32 AM   #24
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Hmmm... Not sure why I was under the wrong impression that it was. Perhaps because of my perspective?

The offer (sex act for compensation) is what matters, right?
The "it" you refer to is proof of payment for sex. That has never been an element of proof for prostitution in the State in Texas.

Under the old statute that made prostitution a crime, the State could prove the offense in any of four ways:

(1) offer
(2) acceptance
(3) solicitation -- offer or quasi-offer in public
(4) what I call "silent sex" -- a non-verbal agreement

In 2017, the Texas Legislature repealed the old prostitution statute and replaced it with the following:

TEXAS PENAL CODE SEC. 43.02. PROSTITUTION.

(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly offers or agrees to receive a fee from another to engage in sexual conduct.

(b) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly offers or agrees to pay a fee to another person for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with that person or another.

See https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/D...E.43.htm#43.02.

Thus, the new statute only makes the offer or acceptance a crime. Also, the new law replaces a reference to "consideration" in the old statute with "fee." I presume the change was made because "consideration" is a very squishy subject. Law students throughout the land debate what is "consideration" while drinking oceans of beer.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:07 PM   #25
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There’s 2 ironclad ways I put a lady on my never see list. First, is a request for a deposit. 2nd is CBJ. BTW, Venus... lovely. Hope to see you soon
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:11 AM   #26
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I don't find it helpful to have a hard and fast rule. What I will say is one has to ask firstly is "Do I really want to meet THIS provider?" and "Do I have sufficient reason to believe this provider is legit and will follow through?" Finally, ask yourself "Can I afford to lose $x00 if this goes south?" If the answers to all of the above are in the affirmative, you are at least going into the transaction with your eyes wide open.
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Well no one said anything sexual was being exchanged only my time and companionship that I value and will only schedule with Gentlemen that will respect that.
Unless you have walked in my shoes
And experienced what I have after trusting in good faith that the other party would comply you cannot Judge me for having to implement these strict rules that I hate to admit are disappointing to me as well.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:41 PM   #28
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Gosh...I had no idea your opinion towards Hookers was so beneath scum.
From what several of you posted u would hope you never contact Me!
Kiss my was never.
I entertain Gentlemen in a very safe and Fun Manner.
I've never hurt or even started problems with Men that I entertain

And for the record should I mention how many Watches, phones, keys where left at my in call and without hesitation have I ever manipulated or hurt a hobbyist I do respect my clients and am not a girl friend here...huge difference.
��

Bite me

You may be a sweetheart; but, how do we know that for sure? We don't, never will, and you know it. It is difficult to trust those you do not know well, and even some family members who you think you know well.

You should try to understand other's position. Trust has to be earned, it is not automatically given unless one is a fool. Bite me? I don't think any guy should get that close to one with such a negative attitude. Smile, and be pleasant when dealing with others because it helps to build trust.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:50 PM   #29
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Too many rip offs. I'd never ever prepay. Maybe if it was a provider I have seen many times. Yes. But some random stranger. Hells no. I've seen to many men ripped off.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:51 PM   #30
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i don't doubt you are. But unfortunately there are more bad then good.
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